Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-24 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2024-01-15 at 16:03 -0800, Randolf Richardson, Postmaster wrote: > > I have seen my share of MUAs that behave in weird ways when > > encountering things larger than it can handle, so you have > > to always cope for them in the mail server. Implementing different > > types of restrictions, and

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-15 Thread Jay R. Ashworth via mailop
- Original Message - > From: "Sebastian Nielsen via mailop" >>> That header is supposed to be attached by the originating MUA, and I don't >>> *think* transit MTAs are permitted to rewrite it... > > Problem is, that when MUA or first MTA has a incorrect date set, the email > comes >

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-15 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> >> I was thinking about not advertising SIZE myself, because our limits are > >> already very high so people can send large attachments internally. > > I would still suggest setting a sensible limit, like 100 MB or similar, to > avoid the problem that certain MUAs tend to timeout, crash or

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-15 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
>> I was thinking about not advertising SIZE myself, because our limits are >> already very high so people can send large attachments internally. I would still suggest setting a sensible limit, like 100 MB or similar, to avoid the problem that certain MUAs tend to timeout, crash or stall while

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE ("Date:" header tampering)

2024-01-15 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> >> That header is supposed to be attached by the originating MUA, > >> and I don't *think* transit MTAs are permitted to rewrite it... > > Problem is, that when MUA or first MTA has a incorrect date > set, the email comes like last in inbox... have seen emails > set with 1970-01-01 00:00:00

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu via mailop
On 15 Jan 2024, at 06:54, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: >>> That header is supposed to be attached by the originating MUA, and I don't >>> *think* transit MTAs are permitted to rewrite it... > > Problem is, that when MUA or first MTA has a incorrect date set, the email > comes like last

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-15 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 15.01.2024 o godz. 07:54:47 Sebastian Nielsen via mailop pisze: > Problem is, that when MUA or first MTA has a incorrect date set, the email > comes like last in inbox... have seen emails set with 1970-01-01 00:00:00 > Or, even worse, it has a date that is like, several months off, so you >

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-15 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
2024 08:56 Till: mailop Ämne: Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE Am 15.01.24 um 07:54 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen via mailop: That header is supposed to be attached by the originating MUA, and I don't *think* transit MTAs are permitted to rewrite it... Problem is, that when MUA or first MTA has

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-14 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 15.01.24 um 07:54 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen via mailop: That header is supposed to be attached by the originating MUA, and I don't *think* transit MTAs are permitted to rewrite it... Problem is, that when MUA or first MTA has a incorrect date set, the email comes like last in inbox...

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-14 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
>> That header is supposed to be attached by the originating MUA, and I don't >> *think* transit MTAs are permitted to rewrite it... Problem is, that when MUA or first MTA has a incorrect date set, the email comes like last in inbox... have seen emails set with 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Or, even

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth via mailop
- Original Message - > From: "Sebastian Nielsen via mailop" > Why is it a problem? The server ignores commands that it don't have capability > for anyways. > > Only wonkiness of Samsung Mail (same in Microsoft Outlook), I have noticed, is > that new email happens to arrive in the middle

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-14 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 14. januára 2024 7:55:13 UTC používateľ Bastian Blank via mailop napísal: >On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 07:44:22PM +, Slavko via mailop wrote: >> Dňa 13. januára 2024 19:14:58 UTC používateľ Sebastian Nielsen via mailop >> napísal: >> >Then you need to reconfigure server to ignore said

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-14 Thread Bastian Blank via mailop
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 07:44:22PM +, Slavko via mailop wrote: > Dňa 13. januára 2024 19:14:58 UTC používateľ Sebastian Nielsen via mailop > napísal: > >Then you need to reconfigure server to ignore said parameters. > IMO, in other words, server (SHOULD reject) is RFC compliant, client > is

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-13 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 13. januára 2024 19:14:58 UTC používateľ Sebastian Nielsen via mailop napísal: >Then you need to reconfigure server to ignore said parameters. RFC 5321, sect. 4.1.1: ...In the absence of specific extensions offered by the server and accepted by the client, clients MUST NOT send such

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-13 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
Then you need to reconfigure server to ignore said parameters. Originalmeddelande Från: ml+mailop--- via mailop Datum: 2024-01-13 19:58 (GMT+01:00) Till: mailop@mailop.org Kopia: ml+mai...@esmtp.org Ämne: Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, Sebastian Nielsen

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-13 Thread ml+mailop--- via mailop
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: > Why is it a problem? The server ignores commands that it don't have > capability for anyways. Says who? 555 MAIL FROM/RCPT TO parameters not recognized or not implemented -- Please don't Cc: me, use only the list for replies,

Re: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-13 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
n 13 januari 2024 18:19 Till: mailop@mailop.org Ämne: [mailop] Samsung and SIZE I happened to see Samsung's email app send a SIZE parameter (rfc1870) to MAIL command without the capability being advertised. I wonder if this is a known thing, it's a difficult question to google. For me anyway.

[mailop] Samsung and SIZE

2024-01-13 Thread Mark E. Mallett via mailop
I happened to see Samsung's email app send a SIZE parameter (rfc1870) to MAIL command without the capability being advertised. I wonder if this is a known thing, it's a difficult question to google. For me anyway. I don't know details about phone or app versions, other than that it's probably