Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-25 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Simon Bull wrote: Okay, thanks for your input, David. Tables with lots of narrow columns are not so rare they can be dismissed; they are useful for matrices of numbers, for example. Yeah, but merging a given row of them into one column is much less common.

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-24 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:24 PM, Simon Bull wrote: Personally, I would prefer to use exactly one table syntax, so long as it _works_. Yeah, that would be my preference, as well, where _works_ eq is legible as plain text and parses properly. Using one pipe per col to span is okay for small

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-24 Thread Simon Bull
Okay, thanks for your input, David. Tables with lots of narrow columns are not so rare they can be dismissed; they are useful for matrices of numbers, for example. How about an (entirely optional) addition to the existing multimarkdown pipe syntax, specifically for cells which span many cols? A

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-24 Thread Fletcher T. Penney
I can't say that I find this proposal to be perfect, but to me this was one of the more compelling emails in this thread. I have been having my own internal conversation about how to rewrite the MMD table syntax. My personal goals were to find a way to minimize the markup, make it more

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-23 Thread Waylan Limberg
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Michel Fortinmichel.for...@michelf.com wrote: [snip] Are you sure this syntax is so intuitive? I was certain (for about 5 minutes) that you meant the colons to continue the cell from the previous line, not start a new cell, despite the weird result. What David

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Simon Bull wrote: * The colon is used more commonly in content than the pipe, and, * ':' is markdown syntax denoting a definition list. Actually, it's in used for a definition list in MultiMarkdown. Markdown does not support definition lists. I have a

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Michel Fortin wrote: And here's what I believe you meant: |Col A| Col B | Col C ==+=+==+= 1 | A1 |B1|C1 --+-+--+- | a2 contains | b2 | c2 | some long | b2 |

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-23 Thread Simon Bull
My apologies, I didn't read David's post correctly. After looking at it more closely, I agree with the previous posts; a leading pipe followed vertically by trailing colons is much better than the other way around, so it should have looked like this: Col A| Col B | Col C

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-23 Thread Waylan Limberg
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Waylan Limbergway...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] colon. In fact, it would seem reasonable to expect that the very implementations which correctly support definition lists (using colons) would be the first to implement any new alternate table syntax, whether it uses

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 23, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Simon Bull wrote: Explicit row markers do _work_, but they are too verbose for my liking. They are more work to write, and don't read as cleanly. The colon syntax _works_ too, and it is cleaner, and I think having a source document which is natural to write,

Re: More continuing text for tables

2009-06-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 23, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: Actually, PHP Markdown Extra [1], Python-Markdown [2], and Pandoc [3] all support definition lists using the colon as well. And that's only the ones I'm familiar with. There may be others. The point is, I think this is an established enough