RE: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread dhiren jani
Hi Tom, at some level i agree with you, having 2 branches does not make much sense, specially for desktop applications such as libreoffice. It will confuse people who do not read which version is applicable for which environment. In marketing the way I have seen such situations handled is

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I'm sorry but that only seems to confirm what i have been saying :(  Obviously i am wrong but where is my mistake?  When you say 1.  In each LibreOffice series, over the various minor releases, hundreds of bugs are fixed. it suggests, to me, that 'hundreds' of bugs are found at the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Tom, Hoping this will be the last time we discuss this on the marketing list, and so that we can move on to actual marketing topics and work Le vendredi 05 octobre 2012 à 09:26 +0100, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I'm sorry but that only seems to confirm what i have been saying :(

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Charles, Le 2012-10-05 06:32, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Tom, Hoping this will be the last time we discuss this on the marketing list, and so that we can move on to actual marketing topics and work To be fair to Tom, this is also a recurring topic from others. So, when I have time,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Marc, Le vendredi 05 octobre 2012 à 06:41 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : Hi Charles, Le 2012-10-05 06:32, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Tom, Hoping this will be the last time we discuss this on the marketing list, and so that we can move on to actual marketing topics and work

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think it is important to clarify what the product is.  Then sell it for what it is.  As opposed to what we currently do, which is to 1.  Find the Unique Selling Points of the product and then 2.  Try to sell it by making claims that more true of the other branch and not really true of

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 10/05/2012 06:41 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Charles, Le 2012-10-05 06:32, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Tom, Hoping this will be the last time we discuss this on the marketing list, and so that we can move on to actual marketing topics and work To be fair to Tom, this is also a recurring

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Tom, Somehow you are now asking *very important and fundamental questions* but still manage to ruin stuff with implying that PRs don't tell the truth. See my comments inline.. Le vendredi 05 octobre 2012 à 13:14 +0100, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I think it is important to clarify what the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There is already a wiki-page!  The graphic clearly backs up what i have been saying.  Presumably the graphic is wrong but wont get replaced and the new page will just contradict the graphic.  The public announcement contradicts the graphic.  So, which is true? IF the .0, .1 and .2

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Hmmm, sorry Tim but i think the 2 branch model is good.  It lets people get their hands on newer features faster.  It helps people see how those new features work when combined with the main product and lets testing get done out in the wild on real-world machines (not just in virtualised

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/5/12 2:31 PM, Tom Davies wrote: What is the problem? Why can't we be honest? Why even mention anything about stability in public announcements!?!! We are honest and transparent. Each new version is more stable than the previous one of the same family, and solves bugs and regressions,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Monfort
Hi, What instead of debating on whether the two branches are stable or not, can't we just qualify them as two differently oriented solutions ? One version for the average user, one version for the enterprise. The older one being for the enterprise of course. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/5/12 3:04 PM, Florian Monfort wrote: One version for the average user, one version for the enterprise. The older one being for the enterprise of course. The problem is that there are enterprises happy with the old version and other happy with the new version, and individual users

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) How about for the new branch, until it reaches say 3.x.4, we say something like Get in there fast to check out all the newest features, Can you be the first of your friends and colleagues to test-drive all the new features or The Document Foundation (TDF) announces LibreOffice 3.6.3,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Florian Monfort
When it comes to communicate, unless we are on a specific campaign, I'd rather focus on what's general. I don't I'm making any mistake by saying that the average user will need something a little more edgy to have better functionality ? Especially when it comes to LibreOffice I'd rather encourage

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Having a choice and being truthfully informed about the choice can help people make the right choice to suit their needs.  Outside of IT choice is often expected, even demanded.  We don't all always eat the same food as each other.  There are many flavours of ice-cream.  Some people

[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Tom, Charles, Le 2012-10-05 08:31, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) There is already a wiki-page! The graphic clearly backs up what i have been saying. Presumably the graphic is wrong but wont get replaced and the new page will just contradict the graphic. The public announcement contradicts

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

2012-10-05 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 10/05/2012 09:04 AM, Florian Monfort wrote: Hi, What instead of debating on whether the two branches are stable or not, can't we just qualify them as two differently oriented solutions ? One version for the average user, one version for the enterprise. The older one being for the

[libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice in macworld article.

2012-10-05 Thread Dave Johnson
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