Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-27 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 13:26, jonathon a écrit : * Why ODF formats are better; * Why use LibO; Of all the arguments presented, in my opinion, these two are the most important. It we are to market LibO then we also market ODF by default. The ODF is what will change the scene in the US market

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Italo Vignoli
Frank Esposito wrote: Problems with adoption as far as I can ascertain are as follow: The single biggest problems with adoption is lack of awareness. It is possible to solve feature problems, it is not possible to solve the lack of awareness. No one is going to install an unknown software,

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-26 15:17, Drew Jensen a écrit : The efforts should express strong commitment to, support of and advancement of the ODF, from a marketing perspective I would say that could be (should be IMO) 100% across the board. I would be hard pressed to see producing some marketing item for

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Drew Jensen
Sorry maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but if you are suggesting that any advertising materials should make mention of TDF - Libo - ADF, well then, I am 100% in agreement with you. Right - what I was trying for, not well either, was that somme items might have LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-26 16:31, Drew Jensen a écrit : Sorry maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but if you are suggesting that any advertising materials should make mention of TDF - Libo - ADF, well then, I am 100% in agreement with you. Right - what I was trying for, not well either, was

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Dave Johnson
Can Libo add opxml imoport function? Dave Johnson On Oct 26, 2010 3:31 PM, Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Sorry maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but if you are suggesting that any... Right - what I was trying for, not well either, was that somme items might have

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Drew Jensen
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 00:42 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: Howdy Italo, that's not true - end user / small business / and commercial size adoption is far from nil - not 20$ but depending on whose numbers your use it is from 7% - 11%. It was the same web based survey

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Frank Esposito
* It is ugly This is a very subjective call, so not worth consideration outside a UX needs improvement in some areas UX can make or break a product, just ask Steve Jobs and therefore IS worth consideration. Someone even brought up this point on the first conference call (sorry I cannot

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 10/26/2010 7:14 PM, Frank Esposito wrote: snip Not as many issues as MSO has with ODF, and LibO/OOo is standards compliant yes but the world uses MSO so that point is moot if were are trying to get them to use LO/OO. and the average user or business IT person usually does not even

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Dave Johnson
Can a plug-in be made to save OOXML format for LibO for a short term solution? On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Frank Esposito wrote: * It is ugly This is a very subjective call, so not worth consideration outside a UX needs improvement in some areas UX can make or break a product, just

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-26 16:35, Dave Johnson a écrit : Can Libo add opxml imoport function? Dave Johnson On Oct 26, 2010 3:31 PM, Drew Jensend...@baseanswers.com wrote: Sorry maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but if you are suggesting that any... Right - what I was trying for, not well

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-26 Thread Michel Gagnon
Le 2010-10-26 18:02, Graham Lauder a écrit : On Sunday 24 Oct 2010 02:11:52 Frank Esposito wrote: I posted a question as to why choose MS Office over OO on hacker news and although I only got 4 responses, they kind of match my own experience with OO. here is the discussion:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-23 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-23 01:41, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote (23-10-10 02:13) Just thought that I would start a thread on LibO use in Business as there was a mention of weak areas in the suite that prevents its use and an efficient tool. Great idea. I know there has been pretty much

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Saturday 23 Oct 2010 21:26:05 Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-23 01:41, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote (23-10-10 02:13) Just thought that I would start a thread on LibO use in Business as there was a mention of weak areas in the suite that prevents its use and an

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-23 Thread Frank Esposito
I posted a question as to why choose MS Office over OO on hacker news and although I only got 4 responses, they kind of match my own experience with OO. here is the discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1816102 Problems with adoption as far as I can ascertain are as follow: * It is

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-23 Thread Ian
On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 08:11 -0500, Frank Esposito wrote: I posted a question as to why choose MS Office over OO on hacker news and although I only got 4 responses, they kind of match my own experience with OO. here is the discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1816102 Problems

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sunday 24 Oct 2010 03:02:13 Ian wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 08:11 -0500, Frank Esposito wrote: I posted a question as to why choose MS Office over OO on hacker news and although I only got 4 responses, they kind of match my own experience with OO. here is the discussion:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-23 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey everyone, I'm new here so I hope no one minds me just jumping in. LibO usability is something that is near and dear to my heart so I thought this was a good thread to 'get up all in'. On 10/23/2010 8:11 AM, Frank Esposito wrote: snip * it

[libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Paré
Just thought that I would start a thread on LibO use in Business as there was a mention of weak areas in the suite that prevents its use and an efficient tool. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Business

2010-10-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote (23-10-10 02:13) Just thought that I would start a thread on LibO use in Business as there was a mention of weak areas in the suite that prevents its use and an efficient tool. Great idea. I know there has been pretty much said and collected around that on the OOo