Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Claus Schwarm
Cool, a brainstorming! :) I got another one: GNOME - Join the desktop revolution. Cheers, Claus On Wed, 18 May 2005 17:35:55 -0400 Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More slogan braindumping: GNOME: The Heart Of the Linux Desktop * puts us in the center of the greater desktop space

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Marcus Bauer a écrit : My suggestion is: Gnome - easy and efficent I like it. It doesn't say *what* GNOME is, but I don't think that we really need to in a slogan. Just compare the overly cluttered menues of ... to Gnome. The ease of snip a heavy ... dominance in my local linux user group.

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
Marcus Bauer wrote: Gnome - easy and efficent Gnome - its your desktop SM -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/19/05, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Luis Villa a écrit : More slogan braindumping: GNOME: The Heart Of the Linux Desktop Hm... basing our identity on a slogan which one of our ad board members (FSF) is clearly not going to like is probably not a good idea... The FSF

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/19/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My suggestion is: Gnome - easy and efficent because that is exactly Gnome's selling point and one needs to repeat it over and over again :-) We definitely want to pimp easy and efficient as much as possible; I've added 'usable' to every

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/19/05, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcus Bauer wrote: Gnome - easy and efficent Gnome - its your desktop We discussed earlier 'your desktop of choice'; while I'm in general in favor of making this personal, I argued that we should use 'the' instead of 'your'

evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
A dump of my notes (slightly expanded) from the discussion on 'Evangelist Users' at the LCA marketing BOF. In a nutshell, the discussion was about users who go out and evangelize GNOME- how have firefox/KDE been so succesful at this, why are we not doing so hot, how can we (should we?) etc. My

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Variations on just works: The desktop for people with better things to do Desktop software that doesn't get in the way Get on with it Just do it (might be taken...) Makes Stuff Work The Best of Breed Desktop (just for Luis) Easy, useful, unobtrusive Cheers, Dave. PS. I'm not so sure that we

Re: GNOME tour?

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
BTW, has anyone looked at: http://www.apple.com/macosx/overview/ and/or poked around kde.org (I can't find anything competitive offhand) to harvest ideas here? Luis On 5/17/05, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think we have any online tour of GNOME yet. I'm thinking of

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:28:51 -0400 Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We discussed earlier 'your desktop of choice'; while I'm in general in favor of making this personal, I argued that we should use 'the' instead of 'your' because it makes it easier to tie into our big deployments and big

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Claus Schwarm
A few more: 'Desktop'ing made simple' 'Simplicity redefined' 'Not usable' 'Ready for a new desktop?' Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF

2005-05-19 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Thu, 19 May 2005 21:15:31 +0200 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some major flaws in current gnome marketing: Gnome does not really promote its ease of use. Havoc's README that comes with the metacity package simply needs to be polished up into a press-printable form (shorter, less

Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF

2005-05-19 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 22:15 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote: Maybe you could move the README into the wiki so it could be polished? Basically it says: * the question whether or not to include a new feature isn't Why not but Why? Is it really necessary to have that? * instead of giving the user the

Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF

2005-05-19 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 16:10 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: I really like the 'heart of the desktop' :) Isn't it also a mixed metaphor? -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: Actions (was: Surveys at conferences..)

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/9/05, Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 09 May 2005 09:49:51 +0200 Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a short list of the stuff that's ongoing: GNOME Journal (Jim, Sri) Upcoming conferences (Claus) LiveCD (Luis) Press contacts (?) Deployments list

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 17:43 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: :D GNOME: Drink more beer ;-) -- David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.damog.net/ I do not fear computers, I fear the lack of them. GPG: C671257D - 6EF6 C284 C95D 78F6 0B78 FFD3 981C 5FD7 C671 257D -- marketing-list

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/19/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Luis Villa 'The Desktop of Choice' 'The Choice Desktop' 'Desktop Linux Defined' Worth noting that this one is Jeff's fav. :) Though it was 'Linux Desktop Defined'. :-) Either way I'm admittedly not a huge fan, though I

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Luis Villa On 5/19/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Luis Villa 'The Desktop of Choice' 'The Choice Desktop' 'Desktop Linux Defined' Worth noting that this one is Jeff's fav. :) Though it was 'Linux Desktop Defined'. :-) Either way I'm

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Glynn Foster
Worth noting that this one is Jeff's fav. :) Though it was 'Linux Desktop Defined'. :-) Either way I'm admittedly not a huge fan, though I can't quite put my finger on why- mostly probably because at this point it seems both limiting (we do more than define) and hubristic (it's not

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/20/05, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worth noting that this one is Jeff's fav. :) Though it was 'Linux Desktop Defined'. :-) Either way I'm admittedly not a huge fan, though I can't quite put my finger on why- mostly probably because at this point it seems both

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/20/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=The Face of Sun Microsystems It's also Linux specific. Again, it's going to be one of a number of catchphrases for particular audiences. There does need to be one pre-eminent catchphrase, though. Linux Desktop is a cruical

something to consider when doing the next web revamping

2005-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/stopthepresses_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000893246 [Talks about news sites, but probably relevant to us too- we should analyze the logs :) Has it really come to the point where significant numbers of people who visit news sites bypass the home

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Luis Villa Agreed (though I'm showing us fifth ATM- which is better than we've been in a while, IIRC)- HFSNW! Yeah! That's a fantastic change. I wonder who's juicing us up. - Jeff -- GUADEC 2005: May 29th-31st http://2005.guadec.org/ Ye shall be