The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread Quim Gil
We have this potential goal for the GNOME 2.18 release: Setting an official relation with gnomefiles.org - http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Goals Eugenia Loli, gnomefiles.org maintainer, found it herself and he contacted me. She is happy to help. Can you please provide thoughts for an optimal

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread Murray Cumming
quote who=Iain * Kathy's talk on passionate users, Apple's Mac vs PC adverts and their success with making things cool have shown us that people don't care about what a computer can do, but what they can do with a computer (there may be more of a difference in my mind, I'm just lacking a

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread Quim Gil
El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 08:41 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va escriure: Should anyone ever get around to creating some GNOME personas Someone started http://live.gnome.org/Personas months ago. However, I've just had a look to

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:58:50 +1000 Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the distinction between features and benefits. Apple have always been good about communicating *benefits* first, features second. I feel that Microsoft have traditionally done it backwards. Then, we should be

Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread Murray Cumming
As I wrote to the email the marketing-list that hasn't got through yet (I can't seem to be able to register with this list), this is to be fixed. For example, a non-OSS license will be displayed in italics, in red color and maybe a popup window explaining that this is not open source. I am

Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 01:13 -0700, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote: As I think is mentioned one one of the wiki pages, we need to reuse information somehow, maybe with DOAP. Many people don't use gnomefiles.org because we don't want to enter information in multiple places. I've mostly stopped using

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread Calum Benson
Quim Gil wrote: El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 08:41 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va escriure: Should anyone ever get around to creating some GNOME personas Someone started http://live.gnome.org/Personas months ago. Yeesh, didn't know that. Has anybody ever come up with an effective way

Re: wgo url policy

2006-07-14 Thread John Hwang
Like Jeff, I also tend to think that query string approach is the cleanest. It implies it's the same resource with a different parameter, that is display language. Can be problematic though with some CMS engines and usual URL rewriting rules (that for example would translate

Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread David Neary
Hi, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote: A few things that _I can not_ do: snip 3. Remove non-gnome, non-OSS apps. Gnomefiles is a software repository for all Gtk-dependant software, open or closed, black or white, thin or fat, short or tall. This is the point which cause us to distance ourselves a

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
I have made a GNOME button for the glipper website [1], a png file is attached. I find the text too little could you increase it by 1px ? and could you make a version with 1px padding for the gnome foot image (so that it doesn't touch the border) -- marketing-list mailing list

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread Elijah Newren
On 7/14/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quim Gil wrote: El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 08:41 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va escriure: Should anyone ever get around to creating some GNOME personas Someone started http://live.gnome.org/Personas months ago. Yeesh, didn't know

Re: Personas (was: Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...)

2006-07-14 Thread Calum Benson
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 16:15 +0200, David Neary wrote: Look at RecentChanges regularly. Bleah :) Even that's only useful if people add meaningful change comments, which many don't. It used to be available as an RSS feed, but that seems to have dropped off with the recent upgrade. True...

Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread Owen Williams
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 00:34 -0700, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote: Now, if it would be possible to also get a bookmark in Epiphany or an entry in a future Gnome RSS client, even better, but it's not really a requirement. I've added gnomefiles as a default subscription to my application PenguinTV

Re: Personas (was: Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...)

2006-07-14 Thread Santiago Roza
On 7/14/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geraldine always does her shopping on Friday, since she finishes work an hour earlier. She buys lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, but ends up throwing half of them away two weeks later because they've gone rotten. She doesn't like cooking, so

Re: Personas

2006-07-14 Thread David Neary
Hi, Santiago Roza wrote: On 7/14/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geraldine always does her shopping on Friday, since she finishes work an hour earlier. She buys lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, but ends up throwing half of them away two weeks later because they've gone rotten.

Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
At this point, I suggest a high-level cooperation of the two sites. Lets start by aligning policies and appearance. We can go for tighter integration after our first relaunch. This is probably necessary to blend in with the other gnome sites. I don't have any plans to change the CMS/looks or

Wiki changes [Was: Personas]

2006-07-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=David Neary Look at RecentChanges regularly. It used to be available as an RSS feed, but that seems to have dropped off with the recent upgrade. The RSS feed is definitely still there, and you can turn on diffs as well, which is very handy. You can put '.' in the subscriptions

Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
3. Remove non-gnome, non-OSS apps. Gnomefiles is a software repository for all Gtk-dependant software, open or closed, black or white, thin or fat, short or tall. This is the point which cause us to distance ourselves a little from gnomefiles last year, and it's still one I'm concerned

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Hi :o) Thanks for the feedback, I'm happy someone looked at this :) On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 17:54 +0200, AMAZIGH Aneglus wrote: I find the text too little could you increase it by 1px ? Well, it is of course possible, but the button actually respects a chimeric standard that specifies that the

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Re :o) Here are another two variations, with the font adjusted in what I think is an acceptable manner. I'll try and do a big brother button later, it will probably read Made for GNOME, for use on project pages, what do you think ? Love, Karderio gnome_80x15-3.png Description: PNG image

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Hi :o) Here is my attempt at a large Made for GNOME button. Same questions apply ;o) Love, Karderio -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Hi :o) On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 08:56 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: On 7/14/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeesh, didn't know that. Has anybody ever come up with an effective way of keeping track of what on earth is happening on wikis, without subscribing to every change? Well,

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Re, I swore never to do this in public, but fate being what fate is : here is the attachment. Sorry, I'm going to hide in a corner now. Love, Karderio On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 22:33 +0200, karderio wrote: Hi :o) Here is my attempt at a large Made for GNOME button. Same questions apply ;o)

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Re :o) On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 23:42 +0200, AMAZIGH Aneglus wrote: 2006/7/14, karderio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here are another two variations, with the font adjusted in what I think is an acceptable manner. I prefer the new ones :) the GNOME text is more readable. Are you using the same font

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:22:30 -0300 Santiago Roza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah i guess that's hard... i didn't know about that wiki page either, and i wrote that text :) Oooh, I'm sorry. I think it saw a remark by Calum about 'still no personas' or so, remembered your text, and moved it

Re: Personas

2006-07-14 Thread Santiago Roza
On 7/14/06, Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to add a link or so to your mail for credit but somehow never got to do it. dude i was just kidding, it's not like i expected credit for 20 lines of text :) anyway thanks for moving it into the wiki, but i don't think it will be of

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
here is the attachment. It's fine ! you may submit this to the badge garden :) and add it to the MarketingMaterials (it won't hurt anyone I think) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org

2006-07-14 Thread Santiago Roza
On 7/14/06, Eugenia Loli-Queru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (original message included below) you're also using a trademark without proper authorization! I don't know what proper authorization would be (you mean, in writing?). i guess so, i'm not a lawyer thank god :P but the Gnome Board HAS

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
Eek, the website I'm working on is plastered with them :) I wouldn't say they are great though either, I mainly found it handy so as to provide links to places I feel deserve coverage on every page. Also, I'm not such a great graphic artist, so such things, along with tango icons, make my

[Fwd: Re: The relation with gnomefiles.org]

2006-07-14 Thread Quim Gil
Forwarding a Eugenia's email to the list, as requested. ---BeginMessage--- you're also using a trademark without proper authorization! I don't know what proper authorization would be (you mean, in writing?), but the Gnome Board HAS discussed the Gnomefiles situation last year. This is the

Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Hi :o) On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 01:13 +0200, AMAZIGH Aneglus wrote: Eek, the website I'm working on is plastered with them :) I wouldn't say they are great though either, I mainly found it handy so as to provide links to places I feel deserve coverage on every page. Also, I'm not such a

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-14 Thread Santiago Roza
On 7/14/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I even started on some profiles, with a more 'human' aspect [1] - http://live.gnome.org/JoshWilliams http://live.gnome.org/HarrisonJacobs and what's the difference between these two and the ones we had before, other than having a random human

Re: Personas

2006-07-14 Thread Santiago Roza
(oops should have moved this to the personas thread) On 7/14/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I even started on some profiles, with a more 'human' aspect [1] - http://live.gnome.org/JoshWilliams http://live.gnome.org/HarrisonJacobs and what's the difference between these two and

Re: GNOME Software Map

2006-07-14 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
- In the GNOME Software Map we will feature at least a link to gnomefiles.org, with the comments we feel needed. We can also include their feed, or maybe we find the way to have a feed with only free apps if we think this is appropriate. What I can do is modify the RSS feed and when there's a

Re: Personas

2006-07-14 Thread Gezim Hoxha
On Fri, 2006-14-07 at 19:54 +0200, David Neary wrote: Hi, Santiago Roza wrote: On 7/14/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geraldine always does her shopping on Friday, since she finishes work an hour earlier. She buys lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, but ends up throwing