With the LiveCDs (and soon the VMPlayer images) it is almost that
easy.
Check. In about 90 seconds I am going to give a copy of Ubuntu to one
of my colleagues.
Forgive my desparate amateurism. Save us.
It's all good! There is no such thing as an amatuer in marketing. We
are all consumers!
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 13:15 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
Time to revive this thread again.
Cool!
On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 18:50 +1200, John Williams wrote:
On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 22:25 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
Try to explain the issues to us, and suggest definite actions. There are
many
En/na Quim Gil ha escrit:
about the gnome.org homepage and strcit website, composed by static
pages touchable only via CMS, without options to register, without RSS
I meant touchable only via CVS, sorry.
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En/na Murray Cumming ha escrit:
We can improve it for 2.14, but now is the time to come up with a
mock-up.
I'm still confused about who and where debate and decide about gnome.org
website. Take out the wiki, bugzilla, planet, etc. We are talking now
about the gnome.org homepage and
Time to revive this thread again.
On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 18:50 +1200, John Williams wrote:
On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 22:25 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
Try to explain the issues to us, and suggest definite actions. There are
many people here who would love to help to put a plan into motion.
John Williams wrote:
Sure. If our primary market is ISVs, we may want to emphasise
stability, specifically API/ABI stability, and complete and
comprehensive API documentation.
If our primary market was private end-users we may want to emphasise
exciting new features, ease-of-use,
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 18:03 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
Without straying too far from the topic - What is GNOME ? Or as someone
recently asked me in one session for college kids (WTF is guh-nome)
From www.gnome.org:
GNOME is a Unix and Linux desktop suite and development platform.
In
Murray Cumming wrote:
From www.gnome.org:
GNOME is a Unix and Linux desktop suite and development platform.
There you are :)
The priority for GNOME defintion are already defined - it becomes easy
to work forward from there
I don't like calling GNOME a development platform. I think that is
obvious and makes us sound to techie, and could drive away technophobes.
I think GNOME is a Unix and Linux desktop suite is enough (maybe it
should be even simpler and snappier). The development platform is just
something that
IMHO we are not looking for a definition, we are looking for concepts
put in great sentences and visual objects that arise the interest of our
target markets in GNOME, so they want to know more, test it, have it,
enjoy it, be proud of have it and be part of it.
I bet none of the things you love
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 16:53 +0100, Quim Gil wrote:
IMHO we are not looking for a definition, we are looking for concepts
put in great sentences and visual objects that arise the interest of our
target markets in GNOME, so they want to know more, test it, have it,
enjoy it, be proud of have it
Quim Gil wrote:
En/na Ken VanDine ha escrit:
We shouldn't be specifically targeting
developers any more, we should focus on getting mainstream users. When
they come the developers follow.
Well, it seems Google thinks the other way round. Many times they have
released something new (beta)
That is basically exactly what Thomas Keup (GNOME Germany's Marketing
guy) told me. We must be on to something.
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 17:47 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Quim Gil wrote:
En/na Ken VanDine ha escrit:
We shouldn't be specifically targeting
developers any more, we should focus
I agree completely. We can't start a marketing campaign of any
sort if our main marketing tool, our home page, continues to be
stale and devoid of dynamic content.
How many of you visit the gnome web page regularly? My guess is
maybe once a month? Why? Because it's not the center of GNOME
Calvin Klein is (was?) cool because cool people used it. Cool made
popular. Popular meant not cool. People moved on to Prada, Gap, or
whatever.
This is not a helpful analogy. People can try out new clothing brands
with zero opportunity or switching costs. And they know what a pair of
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 22:55 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
How many of the people we want to target actually know what an
operating system or a GUI or a desktop shell is?
On their level, it's a computer. A cool, friendly, beautiful computer that
makes life good. They need computers that have
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:07:12 -0400
Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example, while picking a very specific target market and pursuing
it the way you've suggested above would be useful, we have bigger open
questions in GNOME right now. For example:
* who does www.gnome.org target?
On 7/16/05, Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To clarify the stuff I wrote, an example might help:
Let's say we'd target semiprofessional and professional musicians and
composers. Then, we'd have something to work on:
1.) We can do a list of FOSS ISV's with the same target market,
On 7/15/05, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does Tuesday, 19:00 GMT sound for everyone?
That is 7am for me. That is a slight PITA [1] but bearable. I would,
however, prefer an hour to two later if that won't cause too many problems
for others.
Do we have many takers Luis?
On 7/17/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P.S. I'd suggest people RSVP at:
http://yarrr.gnome.org/wiki/index.php/MarketingTeam/TargetMarketsMeeting
but y.g.o seems to have broken editing ATM :/
It is up now. See specifically:
To clarify the stuff I wrote, an example might help:
Let's say we'd target semiprofessional and professional musicians and
composers. Then, we'd have something to work on:
1.) We can do a list of FOSS ISV's with the same target market, and
present advantages and benefits to them, so they extend
How does Tuesday, 19:00 GMT sound for everyone?
That is 7am for me. That is a slight PITA [1] but bearable. I would, however,
prefer an hour to two later if that won't cause too many problems for others.
Do we have many takers Luis?
[1] PITA == Pain in the arse (ass, for Americans)
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On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 22:03 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
(2) can we have a meeting in yarrr.gnome.org[1], perhaps weekly[2],
and perhaps restricted in attendance, until we hash some of this out,
at least at a high level?
I think this is a great idea. Just tell me a time, and I will be there,
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