visibility at the user level (was: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?)

2006-12-31 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/24/06, Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a user boots Ubuntu, they see the Ubuntu splash, the Ubuntu desktop background, and the Ubuntu logo on the panel. And that's as it should

Re: Fwd: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-25 Thread Thilo Pfennig
On 12/24/06, Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a user boots Ubuntu, they see the Ubuntu splash, the Ubuntu desktop background, and the Ubuntu logo on the panel. And that's as it should be -- otherwise, they'd say 'Hey, I put in an Ubuntu

Re: Fwd: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-24 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't really see blocking. I think we will not increase awarenesss of GNOME from our website. The websites are a mess - but whoever visits GNOME websites has at least some idea of why he visits these pages. I mean that working on

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-23 Thread Thilo Pfennig
On 12/23/06, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following these 3 steps we may start building a successful 10x10 MT plan for 2007. Well maybe a bit too much simplification. Maybe we do not list so much - but still there is always much todo - and just reducing tasks will not make things better -

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-23 Thread Quim Gil
In fact it's more about realism and pragmatism than simplification. How many tasks have we completed and how many people has been regularly involved assuming responsibilities in tasks? More than 10X10? Having longer lists doesn't necessarily help achieving more tasks. Said that, I'm not

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Thilo, Thilo Pfennig wrote: I have scanned our mailing list archive and found out that WGO revamp had taken much of our energy, while discussion about how we should do marketing were rare. I have had many thoughts on this, and the BOF from GUADEC had a reasonable list of actions

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-18 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The marketing team should define an overall goal for GNOME. We should not just invent slogans. We also should not try to sell GNOME. I think that we do not want that because than we would want people to use GNOME instead of KDE or other

Re: How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Joachim Noreiko wrote: --- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Example: module maintainer 1 is working on abstracting away some aspect (functionality X) of his module behind a library. ... That's going to be too technical for some members the marketing team. We're a pretty technical

How do we want to do GNOME Marketing?

2006-12-17 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Hi, I have scanned our mailing list archive and found out that WGO revamp had taken much of our energy, while discussion about how we should do marketing were rare. You can many nice ideas in http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing, but the question is not only what target markets we have