Hi,
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:11:44 +0100 (BST)
Paul Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the risk provoking a further rant, I suggest having a look at the
latest SuitWatch from Doc Searls,
http://lists.ssc.com/pipermail/suitwatch/attachments/20060720/b35fd219/attachment.cc
wherein amongst
Hi Claus,
Claus Schwarm wrote:
snip
If Doc Searls' thesis about the viability of traditional marketing is
correct, why are OSS projects that care about this traditional
marketing more successful than those who not?
I think you have the cart and the horse in the wrong order there.
What has
Hi, Dave!
Open Source is useful in a number of ways but there's no need to
exaggerate its influence, especially not because some projects
re-invented a known wheel after they threw the existing one away.
As a very simple example: Traditional marketing theory tells you to
care about the
On 7/25/06, Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never really understood why so many people seem to listen to Doc
Searls. Maybe, that's because he tells geeks what they would like to
hear?
yes, exactly. we geeks love to hear these optimistic things about
supposed geeky revolutions...
Hi,
- Santiago Roza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/17/06, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
that's also a marketing angle: marketing is not just selling stuff.
i
suggest you read my rant :P in this same list, if you feel like:
On 7/17/06, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thought about from a design rather than marketing angle; why would end
users use GNOME and Linux if those things were not designed/invented to
benefit them?
that's also a marketing angle: marketing is not just selling stuff. i
suggest
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 10:44 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote:
Hey,
Santiago Roza wrote:
On 7/14/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I even started on some profiles, with a more 'human' aspect [1] -
http://live.gnome.org/JoshWilliams
http://live.gnome.org/HarrisonJacobs
and
On 7/14/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been banging on this drum in the Ubuntu community for a while, but Iguess I haven't been banging it sufficiently loud in GNOME: Whenever we talkabout GNOME, we *must* talk first and foremost about benefits, and then back
it up with the
On 17 Jul 2006, at 11:36, Gergely Nagy wrote:
Yet, if you said I think it applies more to Josh than Harrison, I
would have to go and look up who they really are. But if you said I
think it applies more to the admin guy than the programmer, I could
easily say yes, you are right :)
That's
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
On 7/14/06, *Jeff Waugh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been banging on this drum in the Ubuntu community for a
while, but I
guess I haven't been banging it sufficiently loud in GNOME: Whenever
we talk
about
Hey,
Santiago Roza wrote:
On 7/14/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I even started on some profiles, with a more 'human' aspect [1] -
http://live.gnome.org/JoshWilliams
http://live.gnome.org/HarrisonJacobs
and what's the difference between these two and the ones we had
before,
quote who=Iain *
Kathy's talk on passionate users, Apple's Mac vs PC adverts and their
success with making things cool have shown us that people don't care
about
what a computer can do, but what they can do with a computer (there may
be
more of a difference in my mind, I'm just lacking a
El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 08:41 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va
escriure:
Should anyone ever get around to creating some GNOME personas
Someone started http://live.gnome.org/Personas months ago.
However, I've just had a look to
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:58:50 +1000
Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the distinction between features and benefits. Apple have
always been good about communicating *benefits* first, features
second. I feel that Microsoft have traditionally done it backwards.
Then, we should be
Quim Gil wrote:
El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 08:41 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va
escriure:
Should anyone ever get around to creating some GNOME personas
Someone started http://live.gnome.org/Personas months ago.
Yeesh, didn't know that. Has anybody ever come up with an effective way
On 7/14/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quim Gil wrote:
El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 08:41 +0200, en/na Murray Cumming va
escriure:
Should anyone ever get around to creating some GNOME personas
Someone started http://live.gnome.org/Personas months ago.
Yeesh, didn't know
Hi :o)
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 08:56 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
On 7/14/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeesh, didn't know that. Has anybody ever come up with an effective way
of keeping track of what on earth is happening on wikis, without
subscribing to every change?
Well,
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:22:30 -0300
Santiago Roza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah i guess that's hard... i didn't know about that wiki page either,
and i wrote that text :)
Oooh, I'm sorry.
I think it saw a remark by Calum about 'still no personas' or so,
remembered your text, and moved it
On 7/14/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I even started on some profiles, with a more 'human' aspect [1] -
http://live.gnome.org/JoshWilliams
http://live.gnome.org/HarrisonJacobs
and what's the difference between these two and the ones we had
before, other than having a random human
quote who=Iain *
Kathy's talk on passionate users, Apple's Mac vs PC adverts and their
success with making things cool have shown us that people don't care about
what a computer can do, but what they can do with a computer (there may be
more of a difference in my mind, I'm just lacking a good
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