Personas are a very common tool in HCI/interaction design (the root
discipline from where web design and desktop design derives).
For those interested in knowing more about personas and why it is a
standard and recorgnised tool for gathering user requirements I would
recommend the BBC 2002
Hi,
James Henstridge wrote:
On 16/07/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you tell me how? The little feed icon's gone, and I couldn't find an
rss action.
Still seems available as here:
http://live.gnome.org/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc
There is a comment at the top of that
fuzzy part, until we have useful user profiles.
that's why i started by defining their user/marketing profile first,
instead of the day they prefer to do their shopping. we can always
add that later.
I didn't know about the other Personas wiki page [if it even
existed then], otherwise I would have
On 16/07/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you tell me how? The little feed icon's gone, and I couldn't find an
rss action.
Still seems available as here:
http://live.gnome.org/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc
There is a comment at the top of that page explaining the various
options you
thanks for moving it into the wiki, but i don't think it will
be of any use: seems like the intended personas are nothing like
user profiles, but random short stories with no particular marketing
value :)
Please either read about Personas online or wait until they're more than
half-done
On 7/15/06, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please either read about Personas online or wait until they're more than
half-done.
i read *all* the documentation they recommended in the marketing list
when the marketing personas issue first came out.
and believe me it wasn't the first
On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 12:30 -0300, Santiago Roza wrote:
On 7/15/06, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
and believe me it wasn't the first time i had read about personas
anyway; it tends to appear somewhere when you study business
administration :)
Persona is a rather specific
Hi,
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=David Neary
Look at RecentChanges regularly.
It used to be available as an RSS feed, but that seems to have dropped off
with the recent upgrade.
The RSS feed is definitely still there, and you can turn on diffs as well,
which is very handy. You can put
Hi,
Gezim Hoxha wrote:
This was a genius idea, Dave. Keep it up :)
Thanks Gezim, I worked long hard to come up with the idea of personas.
I guess I must be a genius to be the first person to have thought of it :)
Cheers,
Dave.
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On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 16:15 +0200, David Neary wrote:
Look at RecentChanges regularly.
Bleah :) Even that's only useful if people add meaningful change
comments, which many don't.
It used to be available as an RSS feed, but that seems to have dropped
off with the recent upgrade.
True...
On 7/14/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geraldine always does her shopping on Friday, since she finishes work
an hour earlier. She buys lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, but ends
up throwing half of them away two weeks later because they've gone
rotten. She doesn't like cooking, so
Hi,
Santiago Roza wrote:
On 7/14/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geraldine always does her shopping on Friday, since she finishes work
an hour earlier. She buys lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, but ends
up throwing half of them away two weeks later because they've gone
rotten.
quote who=David Neary
Look at RecentChanges regularly.
It used to be available as an RSS feed, but that seems to have dropped off
with the recent upgrade.
The RSS feed is definitely still there, and you can turn on diffs as well,
which is very handy. You can put '.' in the subscriptions
it will
be of any use: seems like the intended personas are nothing like
user profiles, but random short stories with no particular marketing
value :)
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(oops should have moved this to the personas thread)
On 7/14/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I even started on some profiles, with a more 'human' aspect [1] -
http://live.gnome.org/JoshWilliams
http://live.gnome.org/HarrisonJacobs
and what's the difference between these two
On Fri, 2006-14-07 at 19:54 +0200, David Neary wrote:
Hi,
Santiago Roza wrote:
On 7/14/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geraldine always does her shopping on Friday, since she finishes work
an hour earlier. She buys lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, but ends
up throwing
point to your own personal experience, but I could tell you
that my personal experience is different.
I'm not sure about these personas, too, but I'm quite sure that we have
a communication problem on the ml: Our current status is 'Go out and
pray'. This is nice, of course, but makes everybody
I missed media usage in your personas (or more general: ways to contact
these personas).
yeah well i said it was a first draft :)
Oh, and you do need names (and if possible images)
yeah you're right, but don't ask me for images cause i can't draw.
anyway, we can think of that later i
On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 10:59 +0100, Claus Schwarm wrote:
i started to draft a few characteristics of my personas; please tell
me what you think. remember it's VERY conceptual, they don't even
have names yet :)
Sorry to butt in here, but I am not sure of the value of this exercise.
Everyone
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 07:12 +0100, Quim Gil wrote:
As a Marketing Team member here is my vote to consider the personas
research as our primary goal in the field of Theory for 2006, being this
project only questioned if somebody comes with a better alternative and
I have just posted a message
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 07:52 +0100, Quim Gil wrote:
En/na John Williams ha escrit:
I have just posted a message about this. If we are going to vote, I
want to nominate
It was just a rethoric, countless vote. :)
I was only saying critique like yours to the personas project
Le mardi 06 décembre 2005 à 21:04 -0300, Santiago Roza a écrit :
cool... could you throw it in the wiki so we can build on it? i'd do
it myself, but i don't think i should appear as the original author
:)
The whole idea behind this little draft was to show that the often
requested data is
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 22:44 +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote:
there are three groups of desktop personas:
1. private
2. business
3. public sector
I'm going to make a quick comment about personas before people go too
far in this direction - if you follow Cooper (and I'm not exactly sure
how
Hi,
Alex Hudson wrote:
I would be happy to help contribute to some personas if people think
it's worth doing.
I think it is. Ideally, we could go into real depth on the personas and
how they might interact with GNOME (and also how GNOME doesn't suit
them), and do a smashing presentation
if you follow Cooper (and I'm not exactly sure
how personas are supposed to apply to marketing), you're not trying to
define a target audience per se. What you're doing is actual
characterisation, as a novelist might do
then maybe we don't have to follow cooper strictly, because we might
end
Le mercredi 07 décembre 2005 à 13:54 +0100, Dave Neary a écrit :
Hi,
Alex Hudson wrote:
I would be happy to help contribute to some personas if people think
it's worth doing.
I think it is. Ideally, we could go into real depth on the personas and
how they might interact with GNOME
Hi,
Santiago Roza wrote:
if you follow Cooper (and I'm not exactly sure
how personas are supposed to apply to marketing), you're not trying to
define a target audience per se. What you're doing is actual
characterisation, as a novelist might do
then maybe we don't have to follow cooper
needs to be shown in Vilanova.
See http://guadectest.ourproject.org/guadec2006 to have an idea of the
three tracks planned. Desktop personas could fit in any of the three,
depending on the approach you would give to the project and the talk.
Looks like a tough bone at a first glance. ;)
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% I disagree. What you're doing is creating living, breathing characters
which represent your target audiences.
yeah, and i agree with this of course. what i don't like is the idea
of creating living characters, at the cost of making them A LOT less
representative of your target audience.
for
Hi,
Marcus Bauer wrote:
Sounds all very good. Here are my suggestions for five personas:
Jane, 19yo, college student.
Tarzan, 30yo, no kids, running a small business
Doris, 35yo, two kids, parttime job freelance design
Cary, 45yo, decision maker desktop IT dept. of 200 employee company
Miss
Le mercredi 07 décembre 2005 à 14:08 +0100, Marcus Bauer a écrit :
Sounds all very good. Here are my suggestions for five personas:
Jane, 19yo, college student.
Tarzan, 30yo, no kids, running a small business
Doris, 35yo, two kids, parttime job freelance design
Cary, 45yo, decision maker
Le mercredi 07 décembre 2005 à 15:17 +0100, Dave Neary a écrit :
Hi,
Marcus Bauer wrote:
Sounds all very good. Here are my suggestions for five personas:
Jane, 19yo, college student.
Tarzan, 30yo, no kids, running a small business
Doris, 35yo, two kids, parttime job freelance design
Alex Hudson wrote:
[It's also valid to argue that personas are not a useful tool; many
people hold that viewpoint. I don't, personally, but there are
significant limitations to how you can use it IMHO]
There's a huge difference between personas are not a useful tool and
personas
i started to draft a few characteristics of my personas; please tell
me what you think. remember it's VERY conceptual, they don't even
have names yet :)
i didn't know if we should picture only our core segments, or a more
general scenario, so i took the middle road... but this will have
Usability and
marketing are totally different things, and of course you're going to
need different tools for them.
err... no. usability has everything to do with users' needs and
expectations, and that has everything to do with marketing.
but usability and advertising are totally different
the user base, but the idea of personas is
not to cover the userbase. If you think of a bell population, you have
80% within two standard deviations (I think?). Personas are a tool
whereby you attempt to design 'average' users that you think most people
are going to be pretty close to. By aiming
[snip]
You can't make everyone happy all the time; personas is just a tool to
help figure out how to prioritise who to make happy when, if you see
what I mean.
And a way for developers to remember that they should worry about the
_goals_ of real people.
Murray Cumming
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If you think of a bell population, you have
80% within two standard deviations (I think?).
yeah 80% is good; what i don't want is personas who're so individual
and pretty and unique :) that they don't reflect the userbase at all.
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Le mardi 06 décembre 2005 à 18:08 +0100, Dave Neary a écrit :
Hi,
Murray Cumming wrote:
I think both our development and marketing would be helped (to have
organisational focus) by having Personas. A university was working on them
a couple of years ago, but that effort seems to have
cool... could you throw it in the wiki so we can build on it? i'd do
it myself, but i don't think i should appear as the original author
:)
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