Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-09 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:33:38 +0200 Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pragmatism: it is sensible to say that Evolution needs to be featured somewhere in wgo. And we are going to have a list of featured products. Let's move forward. You're leading. It's your decision. Now that the

scrolling (was: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map))

2006-08-08 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quim, and Gazim was it? Not scrolling is soo overrated. Screen sizes (and windows sizes!) are not uniform, so there is no way of avoiding scrolling. (To rant a bit, I hate designs which impose too much structure on a web page. It might look cool on

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 04:15 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: Software Map is not the right way to approach these problems, and it's not the right way to get things our users care about on the page. Fair enough, I'll back my stubborn ass off the case :) To summarize: - Our focus now is to present the

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-08 Thread Quim Gil
Pragmatism: it is sensible to say that Evolution needs to be featured somewhere in wgo. And we are going to have a list of featured products. Let's move forward. El dt 08 de 08 del 2006 a les 13:59 +0200, en/na Claus Schwarm va escriure: When I say product page I mean Now that the product

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 15:33 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: COMMENTS ABOUT GOOGLE RESULTS However, it will be nearly impossible to get Evolution homepage into the top list for a search term like 'Email client' Interestingly, doing a search for evolution site:gnome.org gives 2 distinct results (and

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-07 Thread Quim Gil
El dl 07 de 08 del 2006 a les 15:54 +0200, en/na Gergely Nagy va escriure: I suggested the wgo/apps/appname URL instead of wgo/projects/appname I think at this point we agree that we are talking about applications/products/software and not about projects/teams/people for this specific case. We

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-07 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:12:05 +0200 Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't see why it is us wgo maintainers offending people. Because *we* obviously decide which projects gets promoted with the GNOME web resources. If our choice appears to be arbitrary, people may get angry (or

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Gergely Nagy Hmm. So we are talking about leaving wgo/projects/* _as is_ for this release Given the state of plans for dealing with /projects/ I'd say that ought to be an unqualified YES (though I've suggested this before). My humble vote is against a bastard solution where both

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 02:36 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Gergely Nagy Jeff: I'm obsessed with URLs because it reflects the organization of content, which is what we are discussing here. Talking about URLs just distracts from your focus on the design. You're putting the horse

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Gergely Nagy The original subject of this thread was Software Map Which is the wrong way to think about the problem, isn't it? That's why I'm pushing for a different way of thinking about it. Currently /projects/* _is_ just a list of applications It's not really. Have a look. It's

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-06 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Gezim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-05-08 at 12:49 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: Hi, Hi. All right, so let's get back to basics :) We seem to need to do this, every now and then. Clearly, for these pages to make some sense at all, there has to be some

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Joachim Noreiko wgo/app | projects intro, shots | contact, download, roadmap, ideas Why split? Reaching out to potential GNOME contributors and showing people the wonder of Free Software is our responsibility. Of course there are going to be things that are not appropriate for

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-06 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, Quim! Thanks for the summery. I suggest to rename the page http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/SoftwareMap, then. In fact, after reading the page again, Murray asked the most relevant question right in the beginning: What is the purpose of the list? I'm was just asking the same question:

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-06 Thread Quim Gil
I've drawn a diagram: http://live.gnome.org/data/GnomeWeb(2f)NewWgoStructure/attachments/gnomeproductpages.pdf As I see it: www.gnome.org/evolution or www.gnome.org/inkscape are product information pages. One illustrated page with links, if possible without scrolling. They don't aim to be

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-06 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Joachim Noreiko wgo/app | projects intro, shots | contact, download, roadmap, ideas Why split? Reaching out to potential GNOME contributors and showing people the wonder of Free Software is our responsibility. Of course there

gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi, All right, so let's get back to basics :) Clearly, for these pages to make some sense at all, there has to be some added value. Let's try to enumerate these first... - authoritative by this i mean it will be the hopefully best maintained and relevant info source on an application relevant

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see wgo/apps/ page as an about box on steroids. It would be _the_ pace to go to find out some basic info about a gnome app. That's a good way of putting it :) Material that is currently in wgo/projects that is more aimed at developers should go

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Joachim Noreiko --- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see wgo/apps/ page as an about box on steroids. It would be _the_ pace to go to find out some basic info about a gnome app. That's a good way of putting it :) Material that is currently in wgo/projects that is more

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 22:54 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Joachim Noreiko --- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see wgo/apps/ page as an about box on steroids. It would be _the_ pace to go to find out some basic info about a gnome app. That's a good way of putting it :)

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Joachim Noreiko
--- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 22:54 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Joachim Noreiko --- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see wgo/apps/ page as an about box on steroids. It would be _the_ pace to go to find out some basic info about a

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Simon Rozet
Jeff Waugh wrote : Secondly, as someone mentioned on this list only a week or so ago, look at all the Apple product sites (also that you can get info about almost any product using www.apple.com/productSecondly, as someone mentioned on this list only Yeah, I really like the apple.com's way.

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 16:02 +0100, Joachim Noreiko wrote: Suppose I am a potential developer, interested in Nautilus. I need to be directed towards pages that tell me... - who is currently working on nautilus - how to communicate with them (mailing list, irc) - what's in the development

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:02:23 +0100 (BST) Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's all too much technical detail for wgo, and it will detract from pages aimed at users. Some more thoughts about the topic: * What about the Windows port of Evolution? Say, a Windows uses

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Quim Gil
An attempt to get conclusions from this interesting discussion. 1. DIFFERENT LAYERS AND GOALS - All the discussion refers to content located at www.gnome.org EXCEPT the wgo/project/* subsites that we are not going to touch at all in this release (and might or might not become

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Gergely Nagy Gergely: s/applications/products/ - or you'll forget about a whole bunch of things that will need to fit in with this. :-) I can't think of any. You mean stuff like gnome-office? Maybe they deserve their own space? Say wgo/office/? Ok, first, don't get hooked on

Re: gnome app pages (was confusingly Gnome Software Map)

2006-08-05 Thread Gezim Hoxha
On Sat, 2006-05-08 at 12:49 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: Hi, Hi. All right, so let's get back to basics :) We seem to need to do this, every now and then. Clearly, for these pages to make some sense at all, there has to be some added value. Let's try to enumerate these first... -