Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-19 Thread Stormy Peters
I think this is a problem that will have to be solved with all the distros in a room. Unless we come up with a solution that is so elegant end-users just use it. Saying we shouldn't do an installer because each distro is different, is ignoring a user problem. apt-get and yum are beyond the

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-19 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/6/19 Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org: I think this is a problem that will have to be solved with all the distros in a room. Unless we come up with a solution that is so elegant end-users just use it. Saying we shouldn't do an installer because each distro is different, is ignoring a user

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-19 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Not to promote, but Linux Plumbers Conference is exactly about solving this kind of stuff. If someone was willing to write a paper about PackageKit or something like that would be really good so that we can highlight this problem. Then we can work on it together to move Linux forward. Does that

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 16.06.2009, 12:15 -0500 schrieb Brian Cameron: We work hard to get our patches upstream, but there is usually a lag time and some modules are not well maintained (we have patches in bugzilla for modules like libgnome and gnome-vfs that have sat idle for years). Probably

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-16 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On 06/16/2009 11:46 AM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I think we need an installer - for Linux and for Windows. And I think there's interest from several distributions to have an application install solution so if we were willing to create one (or a plan for one), I think we

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-16 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 21:54 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: I think we need an installer - for Linux and for Windows. And I think there's interest from several distributions to have an application install solution so if we were willing to create one (or a plan for one), I think we might be able

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-16 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 12:26 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: In some cases, you can even include just a link that people can click. You can install, say, Transmission in Ubuntu from the browser using a link pointing to apt:transmission, and in OpenSUSE you can use the one click installer-thing

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-16 Thread Brian Cameron
Dave: I am against any Linux ISD (including ourselves) trying to provide a one-size-fits-all installer, until a packaging system that allows that comes along. I have high hopes for PackageKit, but in the meantime, your goal should not be to give people installers, but to document installing

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-16 Thread Calum Benson
On 16 Jun 2009, at 11:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: In some cases, you can even include just a link that people can click. You can install, say, Transmission in Ubuntu from the browser using a link pointing to apt:transmission, and in OpenSUSE you can use the one click installer-thing

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-15 Thread Stormy Peters
I think we need an installer - for Linux and for Windows. And I think there's interest from several distributions to have an application install solution so if we were willing to create one (or a plan for one), I think we might be able to find resources to put behind it. Stormy On Sun, Jun 14,

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-14 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:01 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Actually, the original idea I had about this is to do away with our platform (eg the apps that make gnome.. after all the whole thing is a distro decision these days anyways) Instead we would promote them via adsense and drive

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-14 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Claus Schwarm clschw...@googlemail.comwrote: Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's just the way it is. I can always depend on you to get to the heart of the matter, Claus. :-) I don't think your comments are harsh, but does reflect a reality behind my

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-14 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 08:02 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: So maybe a modification is to create our own product page for each promoted app with a link to the original page? I still think the foundation of the ideas is sound which is to drive interest in products that compete with others

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2009, 20:11 +0200 schrieb Claus Schwarm: Thus I also argued to have a separate projects.gnome.org to manage project homepages more easily. This has happened in the meantime. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper

promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Got a bit inspired by: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2009-June/msg00012.html news.gnome.org got some really nice project blogs, so lets add some more! A couple of nice feeds I can think of from the top of my head: * Banshee - http://banshee-project.org/blog/ * Inkscape -

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-13 Thread Paul Cutler
Here are some apps I personally find cool, with my personal comments below. I apologize, I don't have time to see if they have feeds while I'm at this docs conference. I did check the news.gnome.org feed, and didn't see them. Maybe they can be convinced to start one. :) * Brasero (just added

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-13 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Actually, the original idea I had about this is to do away with our platform (eg the apps that make gnome.. after all the whole thing is a distro decision these days anyways) Instead we would promote them via adsense and drive traffic to these apps thus using them as marketing tools. That might

Re: promoting good gnome apps via news.gnome.org

2009-06-13 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On 06/13/2009 08:01 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Actually, the original idea I had about this is to do away with our platform (eg the apps that make gnome.. after all the whole thing is a distro decision these days anyways) Instead we would promote them via adsense and drive traffic to these