Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-14 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 16:56 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 18:28 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: Well done. This is great stuff, and obviously a lot of work. 1. The first page (http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/C/index.html) has a link at the end to the release

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 11 mars 2006 à 10:08 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit : Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness.

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-12 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
Hi, Op Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:23:56 -0800, schreef Bob Kashani: Should we update them? We probably should. (...) I couldn't help but notice that the screenshot on the main page has a Firefox icon on the toolbar, and that the screenshot of the Preferred Applications capplet shows Firefox to be

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. The latest committed version is online at:

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 18:28 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: Well done. This is great stuff, and obviously a lot of work. 1. The first page (http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/C/index.html) has a link at the end to the release notes (http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/) Even with the

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Bob Kashani
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 10:08 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness.

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Bob Kashani
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 14:23 -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 10:08 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-11 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 03:03:30PM -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: We probably should. I have a screenshot of the sound pref. without the default sound card entry. But I'm not all that great with using gimp to remove the little black bits from the top corners. I'll upload it and hopeful Davyd

Re: Writing the press release for 2.14.0 (was Re: release notes: first draft)

2006-03-10 Thread Corey Burger
On 3/9/06, Rajiv Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/9/06, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : - Does anyone want to take charge on writing a press release? I am willing to raise my hand again if so required. Did

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. The latest committed version is online at:

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Bob Kashani
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:05 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. The latest

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 12:32 -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:05 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-10 Thread Bob Kashani
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:40 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 12:32 -0800, Bob Kashani wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:05 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi, I didn't mention any specific country, nor the whole world I just said for which no legal plugins are available. which seemed to be the most neutral way of putting it.\ I could go on very long about the quality/benifits of licensed and unlicensed codecs, but I think the strong point here

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 13:44 +, Edward Hervey wrote: I could go on very long about the quality/benifits of licensed and unlicensed codecs, but I think the strong point here is that it *allows* both for everybody's benefits (nothing *forces* you to download/use them AFAIK). Given the goal

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi Alan :) On 3/7/06, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 13:44 +, Edward Hervey wrote: I could go on very long about the quality/benifits of licensed and unlicensed codecs, but I think the strong point here is that it *allows* both for everybody's benefits

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Rodrigo M. Fombellida
El lun, 06-03-2006 a las 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley escribió: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. Hi Davyd I found this little typo: independant instead of independent

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Vincent Noel
Hey David, overall, very nice job, as always :-) Just a couple of comments : * Regarding the speed improvements of the gnome log viewer, it could be good to specify that the launch times mentioned in the article are when loading a 2.9MB log file. Otherwise, it makes the log viewer looks pretty bad

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Thomas Vander Stichele writes: However, not everyone in the GNOME community necessarily agrees with this. I got *a lot* of requests to add an mp3 recording profile to gnome-media. Historically, I've always refuted these requests because I agree that GNOME should not be endorsing them. I

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 16:37 +, Alan Cox wrote: plugins are not available. The GNOME 2.14 distribution does not itself contain these non-free components. Actually better yet contain or endorse Alan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi again, On 3/7/06, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 14:50 +, Edward Hervey wrote: Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to offer support for licensed codecs for

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Tommi Vainikainen
On 2006-03-07T11:34:25+0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GStreamer 0.10 will also allow users to take advantage of multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to offer support for licensed codecs for which no legal plugins are available. These may include support for AC3, WMA, MP3 and

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Pedro de Medeiros
On 3/6/06, Davyd Madeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. I guess I found one: release-notes.xml:42 (...) To learn more about GNOME and

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 14:28 -0600, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: On 3/6/06, Davyd Madeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. In the very

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 08:31 -0400, Pedro de Medeiros wrote: On 3/6/06, Davyd Madeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. I guess I

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi, two suggestion if I'm not too late already: 1.) The first sentence is too long: Please stop it after platforms otherwise people with low attention will stop reading right there. 2.) includes sounds strange. Why not just remove it? The paragraph then reads: GNOME 2.14 is the

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 23:30 +0100, Claus Schwarm wrote: Hi, two suggestion if I'm not too late already: 1.) The first sentence is too long: Please stop it after platforms otherwise people with low attention will stop reading right there. 2.) includes sounds strange. Why not just

Re: Writing the press release for 2.14.0 (was Re: release notes: first draft)

2006-03-09 Thread Rajiv Vyas
On 3/9/06, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Le lundi 06 mars 2006 à 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley a écrit : - Does anyone want to take charge on writing a press release? I am willing to raise my hand again if so required. Did anyone start working on it? Any volunteer from the

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. The latest committed version is online at:

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Bob, Yesterday at 23:41, Bob Kashani wrote: I like this much better. It flows much nicer too. I made the changes. Also note that if you want translated release notes, you'll have to be much more strict about such changes at this time. We are only 5 days from a release, and there are only

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, and stabilised at least a week before release. I think it looked really cool on This is basically my

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/9/06, Davyd Madeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, and stabilised at least a week before release. I

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Kashani
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 07:35 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, and stabilised at least a week before

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 0:54, Elijah Newren wrote: On 3/9/06, Davyd Madeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:27:32AM +0100, Danilo ??egan wrote: With Gnome 2.12 we were very successful with translation (24 languages!), but notes were finished two weeks before the release, and

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-09 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 1:37, Bob Kashani wrote: I am going to let Bob and Claus finish up with the editing, but I will understand if at GUADEC, any translators want to come up and punch me in the face. Not really, if we can negotiate a truce. See below. ;) In general I think that you've done a really

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:29:23 +0100 Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Consider linking to http://gnome.org/projects/ instead of gnomefiles.org so we keep users in our website and we prioritise the official GNOME projects. You could add then something like You may find more GNOME related

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread James Henstridge
Edward Hervey wrote: revised version 0.3.a-beta-pre25-coma-7: Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to offer support for licensed codecs for which no legal plugins are available. Does that make

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Luis Villa
On 3/7/06, James Henstridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward Hervey wrote: revised version 0.3.a-beta-pre25-coma-7: Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to offer support for licensed codecs

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, plugins are not available. The GNOME 2.14 distribution does not itself contain these non-free components. Actually better yet contain or endorse I'd be completely fine with this standpoint. However, not everyone in the GNOME community necessarily agrees with this. I got *a lot*

release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Davyd Madeley
Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. The latest committed version is online at: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/C/index.html You can also check out the release

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 23:57 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Addendum: - If anyone knows the status of the LiveCD, that section requires updating. As I wrote the other day I ordered a new computer but it hasn't yet arrived. Thus I'll clear up some space on my laptop and start producing the liveCD

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Oops. Forgot to CC lists. On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Neat job. In front page: free software = Free Software Users - Performance: font rendering = text rendering (we did not optimizing the actual drawing at all, just the text layout...) the entire dictionary = an

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Davyd Madeley
Murray, I've attempted to merge in your suggestions. Tell me what you think. --d On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 18:28 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: Well done. This is great stuff, and obviously a lot of work. 1. The first page (http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/C/index.html) has a link at the

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Quim Gil
Sorry, forgot to say: - Add a very visible link to http://art.gnome.org/screenshots/gnome214 in the first paragraph. En/na Quim Gil ha escrit: Davyd, this is pretty cool. -- Quim Gil - http://desdeamericaconamor.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 14:39 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Murray, I've attempted to merge in your suggestions. Tell me what you think. Thanks. 9. In the developers section: guarentee - guarantee Still needs doing. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-06 Thread Quim Gil
En/na Davyd Madeley ha escrit: Journalist ready press bytes are meant to be handled by the press release. As far as I know, no one has put their hand up for this yet. If you look at http://gnome.org/start/2.12/ you will see that the release notes are, in fact, our primary document to explain