Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-13 Thread Quim Gil
Thanks Sigurd for catching up with the deadline and publish the http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WebPolicies draft. Anyone willing to concentrate in authoring and licensing? It's the last urgent task looking for at least one person in charge. We only need a first draft, surely further ideas and

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-12 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi, On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 13:47 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: After the wgo revamp BoF meeting at Vilanova I'm in charge of pushing a list of tasks we agree to do during 2006, and a timeline. Here is the draft: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/DevelopmentTimeline Constructive criticism of the

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-12 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi, On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 13:47 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: After the wgo revamp BoF meeting at Vilanova I'm in charge of pushing a list of tasks we agree to do during 2006, and a timeline. Here is the draft: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/DevelopmentTimeline Constructive criticism of the

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-12 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi, On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 13:47 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: After the wgo revamp BoF meeting at Vilanova I'm in charge of pushing a list of tasks we agree to do during 2006, and a timeline. Here is the draft: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/DevelopmentTimeline Constructive criticism of the

wgo i18n (was Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal))

2006-07-12 Thread Quim Gil
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 10:08 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: ... and the i18n module still appears to be a patch, as well as terribly inefficient in terms of database access and design. As much as I enjoy Drupal, I really don't think it has a good answer to content translation at this point. All of

Re: wgo i18n (was Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal))

2006-07-12 Thread Christian Rose
On 7/11/06, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, we are approaching to a point of negotiation. Christian Rose has made some good observations at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Localization and John Hwang seems to have an interesting proposal for a decent solution for now (I hope tavon

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-12 Thread Quim Gil
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 21:59 +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: First and foremost, I miss a list of goals to be achieved within this timeframe. True. New proposal: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Goals There are no dependencies defined on the development steps. Dependencies are not shown, but they

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-10 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
... and the i18n module still appears to be a patch, Are you talking about this http://drupal.org/project/i18n ?! as well as terribly inefficient in terms of database access and design. Don't know about this I really don't think it has a good answer to content translation at this point.

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-09 Thread Quim Gil
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 15:46 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I think this is very debatable. For instance, guadec.org was (is) far from perfect and, in fact, it lacks many points any decent website should have. None of the points you make have direct relation with the CMS, but to our lack of

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-09 Thread karderio
Hi :o) About Drupal vs MediaWiki vs etc, there is not much point discussing tools before agreeing requirements. By July 17th Greg Nagy needs to come up with a list of requirements for the wgo platform (CMS). Help him with the requirements if you want to help selecting the most appropriate

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-09 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 00:58 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 12:25 -0300, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: [snip] And I did not make it clearer because I've already exposed this concern to qgil in the process of setting up drupal for guadec.org. As said, I don't think the

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-08 Thread Baris Cicek
Another issue that we have to double check for any ready CMS system is the security. I'm not stating that Drupal is insecure or have such a bad history. But we have to bear in mind that any common CMS or Wiki application might have some security problems in future which might be problem for us as

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Guilherme de S. Pastore Il giorno gio, 06/07/2006 alle 14.02 +0200, Quim Gil ha scritto: July 26th: End of www.gnome.org revamp planning (aka feature freeze). Policies, licensing and wgo platform (CMS) agreed. *Please* not drupal. I think a worthwhile rule for this entire

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-07 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 11:25 -0400, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: Il giorno sab, 08/07/2006 alle 00.06 +1000, Jeff Waugh ha scritto: I think a worthwhile rule for this entire process should be: No criticism without solution. So please explain your point of view so it can be taken seriously,

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-07 Thread Christian Rose
On 7/7/06, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 11:25 -0400, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: Il giorno sab, 08/07/2006 alle 00.06 +1000, Jeff Waugh ha scritto: I think a worthwhile rule for this entire process should be: No criticism without solution. So please

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-07 Thread Christian Rose
(Please keep marketing-list cc:ed) On 7/7/06, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 19:26 +0200, Christian Rose wrote: On 7/7/06, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 11:25 -0400, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: Il giorno sab, 08/07/2006

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-07 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 21:28 +0200, Christian Rose wrote: (Please keep marketing-list cc:ed) /me blames evo Ideally, there should be a minimum of efforts required to translate www.gnome.org -- if translating or enabling a particular translation requires sysadmin intervention, we simply

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-07 Thread Christian Rose
On 7/7/06, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've reiterated this localized content discussion over and over for several years, and the consensus has always been that official content on www.gnome.org should have translations, while localized content provided by local communities

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-07 Thread Quim Gil
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 12:25 -0300, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: However, I've already seen and faced all kinds of problems with drupal, from security to upgradability issues Could you be more specific about these problems? The ones I remember were not caused directly by Drupal but by a)

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-06 Thread Murray Cumming
After the wgo revamp BoF meeting at Vilanova I'm in charge of pushing a list of tasks we agree to do during 2006, and a timeline. Here is the draft: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/DevelopmentTimeline Highlights: we can follow the GNOME release cycle, unveil the wgo revamped on September

Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)

2006-07-06 Thread Quim Gil
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 13:53 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: Hopefully, like the GNOME release schedule, if a feature is not sufficiently ready on time, it will be punted to the next release Definitely: July 26th: End of www.gnome.org revamp planning (aka feature freeze). Policies, licensing and