Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-08-17 Thread Арангел Ангов
Hi, Anyone tried to make a liveCD using a daily breezy build? I downloaded the one from yesterday, added thunderbird and firefox for windows in the winprogs dir and changed all the splash screens and background and stuff. The CD builds and I can boot it but the problem is that when It's

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-08-17 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 18:13 +0200, Арангел Ангов wrote: Hi, Anyone tried to make a liveCD using a daily breezy build? Yes :) I downloaded the one from yesterday, added thunderbird and firefox for windows in the winprogs dir and changed all the splash screens and background and stuff.

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-30 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Luis Villa There will be some odd non-package-managed muck due to the customisations, but that's not a huge cross to bear. Then, if a user wanted to switch to a standard Ubuntu install, he or she could just install the standard metapackages. Presto. :-) Yeah, perhaps we could

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-29 Thread B.Hakvoort
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 20:20 +0200, Claus Schwarm wrote: SNIP I'm also disappointed that gparted doesn't seem to be considered in Ubuntu; especially because the developer of gparted was inspired due to one of my forum posts. ;) Heh :) that's not true, i was simply wondering what to do with

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-29 Thread Christian Meyer
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 15:46 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 13:58 +0200, Christian Meyer wrote: Hi, I just want to throw in something: [...] Christian, development here has been done in an open way since months and everbody is invited to participate. But you are

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-29 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/28/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Luis Villa I'd be fairly happy if we can figure out a way such that an installed liveCD 'becomes' an Ubuntu install with very slight default changes at the first update. Breezy will ship with Ubuntu Express, which is a LiveCD

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Luis Villa I'd be fairly happy if we can figure out a way such that an installed liveCD 'becomes' an Ubuntu install with very slight default changes at the first update. Breezy will ship with Ubuntu Express, which is a LiveCD based installer, which will happily install whatever is

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-26 Thread Andreas Mueller
Am Montag, den 25.07.2005, 16:58 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer: On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:33 +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: I am surprised that there is ZERO communication. [...] I thought it should be possible, to cooperate in a way, i'll CC: chrisime as the reasonable person. We're ( Gnome

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-26 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 23:34 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote: Hi Murray, The GNOME LiveCDs are for marketing, and testing, not for installing or otherwise messing with your system. do you really mean that installing GNOME is messing with someones system? Yes, because it's just messing if it's

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-26 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 16:58 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote: As stated on the german gnome website ( http://www.gnome-ev.de/index.php/GNOME_LiveCD ): I would prefer this work/documentation to be done as part of the regular GNOME and Ubuntu LiveCD projects, unless there is some reason not to

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-26 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 01:28 +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote: Hey, have I lately talked about KLA? :) Did I mention that they are spreading out 50.000 copies to schools in France? Is that a GNOME-based project? Maybe we can do a story on them. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-26 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:49:27 -0300 B.Hakvoort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh :) that's not true, i was simply wondering what to do with my holidays :P Please let me know when your next holiday starts, then ;) Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-26 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 13:58 +0200, Christian Meyer wrote: Hi, I just want to throw in something: [...] Christian, development here has been done in an open way since months and everbody is invited to participate. But you are right: it would definitly make sense to stop the parallel efforts on

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Luis Villa
[FWIW, I actually put together a 2.11 liveCD at one point, but it ended up being an 800M iso, so I did not distribute ;) On 7/25/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis (hoping to push out a 2.11 liveCD at some point in the next few days, we'll see) gnoppix.org claims to already

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Andreas Mueller
Am Montag, den 25.07.2005, 09:08 -0400 schrieb Luis Villa: On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 00:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: [...] Luis (hoping to push out a 2.11 liveCD at some point in the next few days, we'll see) gnoppix.org claims to

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:06:12 +0200 Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They probably heard the word 'Knoppix' more often that they heard the word 'GNOME'. In Germany, that is. Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Claus Schwarm wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:14:47 -0400 Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: things I think in the end I disagree with gnoppix about: * naming; I want it called simply the GNOME LiveCD. No one outside a core group of geeks knows what knoppix is, and so calling it gnoppix is

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:33 +0200, Andreas Mueller wrote: I am surprised that there is ZERO communication. Hi Andreas, googling for gnome livecd gives as first hit: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLiveCd Additionally it has even been featured on planet.gnome.org and Luis Villa is quite talkative

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Terance Edward Sola
søn, 24,.07.2005 kl. 23.58 +0200, skrev Marcus Bauer: Hi, creating a customized GNOME liveCD yourself is easy and takes just a few minutes of time: [...] I still think it would be cool for the next GNOME release to have a couple dozen localized liveCDs (naturally based on 2.12 and with

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:45:37 +0100 Simos Xenitellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot understand your point. I'll try to explain. If we from the marketing group continue to use expressions as 'geek' or 'newbie', we'll be stuck in ongoing discussions without any progress. What do you mean

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:45 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote: Maybe I am wrong, my view is that we (GNOME Marketing) want to get a LiveCD ISO image out to the masses that support both English and other languages. We (GNOME Marketing) are flexible with how it is done, we would like it done in

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Claus Schwarm
If I'm not mistaken, another LiveCD has a graphical install tool, already. http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/index.html It's KDE based, unfortunatly, but remastering seems to be rather easy, and according to their forums, GNOME's in their repositories. I'm also disappointed that gparted

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 13:31 -0300, Santiago Roza wrote: P.S.: Speaking of LiveCDs in general: Without a graphical partion tool ... The GNOME LiveCDs are for marketing, and testing, not for installing or otherwise messing with your system. [snip] -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Στις 25/Ιούλ/2005, ημέρα Δευτέρα και ώρα 17:26, ο/η Marcus Bauer έγραψε: On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:45 +0100, Simos Xenitellis wrote: Maybe I am wrong, my view is that we (GNOME Marketing) want to get a LiveCD ISO image out to the masses that support both English and other languages. We

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hi Murray, The GNOME LiveCDs are for marketing, and testing, not for installing or otherwise messing with your system. do you really mean that installing GNOME is messing with someones system? Since quite some time I thought that this is the coolest thing that can happen to a computer...

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Στις 25/Ιούλ/2005, ημέρα Δευτέρα και ώρα 16:54, ο/η Claus Schwarm έγραψε: On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:45:37 +0100 Simos Xenitellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot understand your point. I'll try to explain. If we from the marketing group continue to use expressions as 'geek' or

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Corey Burger
The idea of an installable live cd is a great one, until you realize the implications. The basically makes Gnome a distribution, which does the following bad things: 1. Gnome does not have the support structure to support average users, nor should it gain one. That is the job of Novell, RH,

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On 7/25/05, Simos Xenitellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like Ubuntu, they send you by post two CDs, an install CD and a LiveCD. They are going to change that with the next release. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:35:48 +0100 Simos Xenitellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I have a better understanding of what you mean. Cool! :) If you also listed your suggestions for action on the LiveCD, I would have the full picture. As is, I can only conjecture that you would rather have

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On 7/25/05, Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea of an installable live cd is a great one, until you realize the implications. The basically makes Gnome a distribution, which does the following bad things: 1. Gnome does not have the support structure to support average users,

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Corey Burger
Wow, that was a lot of anger. I am not advocating that gnome stop marketing itself. I am merely saying that once you start installing something on a machine, you have to support it. And no, gnomesupport is not the kind of support I am talking about. I am talking about security patches and

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
I hope each of these livecds will have clear instructions on how to obtain an iso to burn with the right language. Otherwise nobody is going to isntall it. One should apply Fitz law in obtaining things as well. ;) This might even me downloading the iso image from the livecd itself and putting

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/25/05, Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea of an installable live cd is a great one, until you realize the implications. The basically makes Gnome a distribution, which does the following bad things: 1. Gnome does

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On 7/26/05, Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, that was a lot of anger. *smile* I am not advocating that gnome stop marketing itself. I am merely saying that once you start installing something on a machine, you have to support it. And no, gnomesupport is not the kind of support I am

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, have I lately talked about KLA? :) Did I mention that they are spreading out 50.000 copies to schools in France? They are two and a half part time developers. There are no timely security updates. I'd be embarassed if I were them, if what

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Marcus Bauer
On 7/26/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/25/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, have I lately talked about KLA? :) Did I mention that they are spreading out 50.000 copies to schools in France? They are two and a half part time developers. There are no timely security

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-25 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/25/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/25/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * put up gnome.org/projects/livecd so that gnoppix.org can be redirected there BTW, I've started a very sketchy site: http://gnome.org/projects/livecd/ Probably not up yet, because I

Re: Create your own customised GNOME liveCD

2005-07-24 Thread Luis Villa
Great to see you surface again, dude! Hope everything is well. On 7/24/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, creating a customized GNOME liveCD yourself is easy and takes just a few minutes of time: It involves three simple steps: 1. download and unpack