Re: Tuxmagazine

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Glynn Foster a écrit : The fact is, however, that KDE has the largest market share, and that means the majority of our readers probably use KDE most, or use only KDE. Is this true, though? Online polls consistently give KDE a 2:1 advantage over GNOME, but that is over the relatively small

Re: Business cards

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Murray, I inkscape a bit... what do you mean by 'line up vertically'? Do you want this? [GNOME Foot] GNOME [GNOME Foot] Foundation [GNOME Foot] Member Or do you want the text right- and left-aligned? To my eye, the text looks aligned. The problem is more letter

Re: upcoming conferences and liveCDs

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm a écrit : Maybe we could just write a single flat page? Either == Continent == === Month === Conference * Details Sounds good. Make sure to add a [[TableOfContents]] at the top for easy linking. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list

Actions (was: Surveys at conferences..)

2005-05-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Sri, My reaction to things like this is starting to be great idea - who's going to do it? We have lots of ideas currently lacking people following up on them - from collecting press contacts, to getting posters t-shirts designed, through surveys and market research. What we really need is

Re: Actions

2005-05-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Glynn Foster a écrit : Can we get some concensus behind a few outstanding points for overall strategy? 1) Main target audiences: Existing GNU/Linux users, public administration (both of these are huge and growing markets - they may even be too wide) 2) Main selling point: Ease of use Hrm,

Re: Actions

2005-05-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm a écrit : On Mon, 09 May 2005 09:49:51 +0200 Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GNOME Journal (Jim, Sri) Upcoming conferences (Claus) Please note that I got active for the GNOME Journal lately, and I don't know how long I'll need to do it. I just tried the other format

Another online survey

2005-05-09 Thread Dave Neary
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2127420238.html This one showing GNOME losing ground against KDE? which has 60% of the readership of the site in question. Not a very healthy trend... Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: Another online survey

2005-05-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Simos Xenitellis a crit : The real fight to get GNOME even higher is to win more distros. Right. Anyone have any idea how we can go about that? It would be nice to have a 5 minute pitch for distros... in fact, someone could try to come up with one and give it as a lightning talk at GUADEC

Yet another link

2005-05-09 Thread Dave Neary
OK - the second slashdot link of the day. I know I shouldn't send these, but right now we don't appear to have a good place to shove this kind of thing in the Wiki. http://www.tes.co.uk/2094985 Obviously someone in the dept of education is deciding people should move to free software. Would be

Re: Tuxmagazine

2005-05-10 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Steve George a écrit : Conventional wisdom says you should pick a single segment and concentrate on that one only. Well, let's say at most 2 :) Users = As these are early adoptors the 'power' mantra is a significant factor. GNOME pushes simplicity. So the value should be about being

[Fwd: Slides from GNOME on BSD presentation]

2005-05-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, Another GNOME presentation that we can include in the pool of stuff for GNOME marketing. I'll attach this to live.gnome.org - anyone know of other presentations that we should collect, or even other places where presentations are gathered, that we should point to? Cheers, Dave. --

Re: GNOME tour?

2005-05-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Murray, Luis has been talking about something like this using vnc2swf or vino+GStreamer to generate Theora. Which is nice, and sounds like a step towards having these demos. Murray Cumming a écrit : So, what would we put in that tour? I can think of - File Management - The Panel and some

Re: [Fwd: Slides from GNOME on BSD presentation]

2005-05-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa a écrit : there are a bunch in ftp- I believe l.g.o points at them somewhere. That would be better. What do I have to do to get an account which can upload onto ftp.gnome.org? Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: GNOME tour?

2005-05-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Luis, Luis Villa a écrit : On 5/17/05, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Murray Cumming a écrit : lots of stuff Note that I won't be doing anything that covers even 50% of this, particularly given that scripts need to be written and sample material generated for every demo, since they have

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Marcus Bauer a écrit : My suggestion is: Gnome - easy and efficent I like it. It doesn't say *what* GNOME is, but I don't think that we really need to in a slogan. Just compare the overly cluttered menues of ... to Gnome. The ease of snip a heavy ... dominance in my local linux user group.

Re: more random brainstorming

2005-05-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Variations on just works: The desktop for people with better things to do Desktop software that doesn't get in the way Get on with it Just do it (might be taken...) Makes Stuff Work The Best of Breed Desktop (just for Luis) Easy, useful, unobtrusive Cheers, Dave. PS. I'm not so sure that we

Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF

2005-05-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa a écrit : On 5/19/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some major flaws in current gnome marketing: There are many :) The major one at this stage is that we are spending lots of time talking about what we want to say, how we want to say it, and who we want to say it to, but

Re: The 3 minute pitch

2005-05-23 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa a écrit : Note that even at places like LWE no one really cares about Freedom. It is sad, but true. Usability and Free (as in beer) go a lot farther. Freedom as in freedom from vendor lock-in, and freedom of choice tend to go down well (at least here). Freedom as in I can

Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sriram Ramkrishna a crit : GNOME enters embedded device market with Nokia No!Sorry, but we don't want to be in the embedded market. We discussed this at length in both marketing BOFs. We want this to be ISVs give GNOME software stack a stamp of approval Unfortunately, given that

Re: Proposal for GNOME press release about Nokia device

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Luis took lots of notes. I have only my memories. I expect he will write it up when he's back home and has recovered. Cheers, Dave. Claus Schwarm a écrit : On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:29:01 +0200 Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We discussed this at length in both marketing BOFs

Re: GNOME wins in the OSNews poll

2005-06-02 Thread Dave Neary
Ken VanDine a écrit : http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10731 I saw that, nice :) We should say the same things we have said about other polls though - this one got mentioned on a few prominent GNOMEy blogs, it's on our very own Eugenia's OSNews, etc, etc. It's a nice reversal of

Software Freedom Day

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, We should probably do something for Software Freedom Day (even if it's only letting more people know about it) http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - it's the second year it's been help, and I think it's a really good idea which deserves traction and attention. I don't know what we can do,

Re: Software Freedom Day

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Simos Xenitellis a crit : In addition, the OpenCD will be available, which has cross-platform applications based on GNOME technologies. A task would be to inform the end-users that they are using software based on GNOME technologies. * Perhaps rework the About dialog menu to show

Re: Software Freedom Day

2005-06-10 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Sri, Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit : So here is my mock up. I changed it to Get the Brand!. I suck at this stuff so hopefully someone can improve it. Thanks for the effort. Could you please use the simple GNOME foot in future for GNOME branding stuff? It's that one which is trademarked

Re: Software Freedom Day

2005-06-10 Thread Dave Neary
Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit : Yeah, I took mine from your effort that I found on the marketing wiki. You probably want to remove that one or put something to highlight which one to use. Done. Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: MT members page

2005-06-13 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil a écrit : I took as initial reference a recent email from Dave: Eeep! Now you're going to make me feel guilty that I left so many people out. Simon This was supposed to be Simos. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list

Re: Permission to incorporate the gnome logo into ours

2005-06-15 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Mark, I've forwarded your request to the board, which is where all such requests get approved. Regards, Dave. Mark Maunder a écrit : Hi, I run WorkZoo, a job search engine. We're going to be launching a job search dedicated to jobs in open source technologies very soon. I'd like

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Claus Schwarm a écrit : Just for the record: Is the IGC hosting GUADEC, or is this going to be a joint conference (IGC and GUADEC)? Hosting. GUADEC will probably have its own conference rooms, but we will be part of the larger conference, and will be sharing lots of infrastructure.

Re: LinuxWorld Expo 2005 .Org Village London

2005-06-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, I guess this passed under my radar... Thomas Wood a écrit : If anyone is interested in helping out and is available on either October the 5th or 6th (or both) then please reply as soon as possible so we can let the organiser know we will be able to host a stand. I have an idea which

Re: [Fwd: GUADEC7 press release draft]

2005-06-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Quim, Quim Gil a écrit : Let's just do it, then. I guess we have already a definitive text that can go to the translation teams, isn't it? Yes, it's the one I sent you yesterday (the list servers being down for a couple of days has put everything out of whack). Cheers, Dave. --

Re: Any ideas on new gnome.org splash?

2005-07-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Murray Cumming a écrit : On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 00:12 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: You have all seen the gnome-love pic[2] I did, and that could perhaps work... [2] http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/wgo-front-gnomelove.png As someone else said, the I miss you and When was the last

Re: [Fwd: Re: New supporter]

2005-07-06 Thread Dave Neary
to address those issues. God loves a trier,as my mother says. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Trans.: GNOME et Java en kiosque

2005-07-06 Thread Dave Neary
___ gnome-fr-list mailing list gnome-fr-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-fr-list - Fin du message transféré - -- Dave Neary Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: What are our goals? (was: Re: [Fwd: Re: New supporter] )

2005-07-06 Thread Dave Neary
? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: press release to translate - GUADEC

2005-07-06 Thread Dave Neary
have time to do it straight away. Thanks a lot, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: GNOME Member card

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Neary
usage you're asking for, we'll sign the trademark agreement, then send it to you to sign, and you're good to go. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Would like to add GNOME Live CD to OSCON packet]

2005-07-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Sri, Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit : I'm cool if we don't get it in teh packet, we can always distribute it from the booth, at much smaller quantities if money is a factor. Just a word of advice - bag inserts tend to mostly get thrown away, whereas stand giveaways (or better, sales) tend to

Re: Putting marketing materials on gnome.org

2005-07-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa a écrit : On 7/10/05, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.viralata.net/blog/archives/2005/07/08/poster-source-published/ Is the wiki inappropriate for this for some reason? No, now that attachments work again (they didn't for some reason a while).

Wiki best practices

2005-07-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, The Wiki allows, as we all know, sub-pages with the notation /SectionName/SubPage This is a very useful way to identify grouped pages with a namespace, and it's particularly useful if a great number of disparate groups are sharing the same wiki (as is our case). However, going beyong

Re: Wiki best practices

2005-07-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Murray Cumming a écrit : On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 09:26 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: However, going beyong 2 levels is ususally not a good idea, and going to 4 is definitely a bad idea. Why? Wow. I thought it was obvious, but you're forcing me to think about it. OK... the first 3

Re: Wiki best practices

2005-07-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Murray Cumming a écrit : I tend to use these deeper pages to tack less-interesting stuff on to more interesting stuff, to avoid cluttering the interesting stuff. If we don't link to the uninteresting stuff anywhere except where it's being tacked on, there's no clutter (except namespace

Re: hi

2005-07-22 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa a écrit : Andreas, Javier, others- is it time to start up a proper gnome-art list for you guys to hang out on, and for developers, marketers, etc., to come to with requests? This is not to say that you should leave this list, but it does feel like there is enough to talk about

Advice to keep in mind

2005-08-05 Thread Dave Neary
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Media-Guide/html/index.html There's some good advice in here with respect to dealing with press contacts. Might come in handy. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: 2.12 Release Notes

2005-08-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Andreas, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not a fan of the splash. It doesn't really convey that there's been a release, and there's no sense of excitement about it. If you weren't familiar with GNOME, you wouldn't know that the splash is talking about our latest greatest

Software freedom day

2005-08-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, We're a little late on the get-go, but I think we should do something for Software Freedom Day - http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - September 10th this year. Perhaps GNOME user groups could hold an event for the day? Even if it's only a small demo in a local university? The OpenCD

Re: Software freedom day

2005-08-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Jeff Waugh a écrit : Don't know why it didn't occur to me to pimp this to GNOME, we've been doing lots of stuff about it in Australia and Ubuntu-land. I just noticed :) Andreas, got any thoughts on an SFD-inspired image for gnome.org? (I just got a sudden flash of New GNOME. New World

Re: Review of GNOME 2.12

2005-09-08 Thread Dave Neary
Thanks Suka, I'll add it to the list (the list is on its way ;) Cheers, Dave. suka a écrit : Hi Luis, As mentioned on IRC I've done a review of GNOME 2.12 for the major Austrian Newssite derstandard.at, our IT-Channel has the most readers in the country, so it should be well recognized ;)

Re: Revamped Gnome.org

2005-09-20 Thread Dave Neary
Richard Hoelscher a écrit : Long story short, for the purpose of front-page use, I'm all in favor of GNOME being described as open source software, not Open Source, Free Software or Open-Source Free Software. Use it as an adjective to get the point across that this is a community of good

Re: Another big GNOME deployment in Brazil

2005-09-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Lucas, Lucas Rocha a écrit : I could work on a little article about it for GNOME Journal but I'll need some reviews because my english is far from perfect for writing stuff. Sounds great! I'm sure we have lots of people (including me) happy to proof-read. If you're thinking of also

Re: FOSS.in and GNOME

2005-11-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Sankarshan, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: For those who came in late, FOSS.in is happening check the URL below: http://foss.in/2005 So what all can be done as part of GNOME presence (if at all) ? I will try and get a thread going on the FOSS mailing list so as to enable an exchange of

Re: GNOME's Target Markets

2005-12-01 Thread Dave Neary
Quim Gil wrote: En/na Ken VanDine ha escrit: We shouldn't be specifically targeting developers any more, we should focus on getting mainstream users. When they come the developers follow. Well, it seems Google thinks the other way round. Many times they have released something new (beta)

Re: real marketing or just catchy slogans?

2005-12-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm wrote: * No 'exclusive' influence on developers or product decisions. Even the board is unable to do that. Ahem. The board *shouldn't* do that. Not the same thing. We are a sub-group of the GNOME project. If we have some suggestions for Nautilus, backed up

Re: real marketing or just catchy slogans?

2005-12-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Murray Cumming wrote: getting information is the start - when their information retrieval contributes to technical decisions in a project, our marketing will begin to be more successful. Fine. But when that getting information is obviously stalled then it can't be allowed to stop us.

Re: real marketing or just catchy slogans?

2005-12-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Santiago Roza wrote: it's not me, it's us. we are supposed to be a marketing team, so we're supposed to be focused in pretty much the same direction (not 100% the same, but at least the basics). that's why i'm trying to gather some consensus, instead of starting yet another individual

Re: real marketing or just catchy slogans?

2005-12-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Murray Cumming wrote: I think both our development and marketing would be helped (to have organisational focus) by having Personas. A university was working on them a couple of years ago, but that effort seems to have failed.

Re: Desktop personas (draft)

2005-12-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Alex Hudson wrote: I would be happy to help contribute to some personas if people think it's worth doing. I think it is. Ideally, we could go into real depth on the personas and how they might interact with GNOME (and also how GNOME doesn't suit them), and do a smashing presentation of

Re: Desktop personas (draft)

2005-12-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Santiago Roza wrote: if you follow Cooper (and I'm not exactly sure how personas are supposed to apply to marketing), you're not trying to define a target audience per se. What you're doing is actual characterisation, as a novelist might do then maybe we don't have to follow cooper

Re: Tarzan and Jane - GNOME personas 2005

2005-12-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Marcus Bauer wrote: Sounds all very good. Here are my suggestions for five personas: Jane, 19yo, college student. Tarzan, 30yo, no kids, running a small business Doris, 35yo, two kids, parttime job freelance design Cary, 45yo, decision maker desktop IT dept. of 200 employee company Miss

Indian bank move to RHEL

2005-12-08 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,105513,00.html?from=story_kc An Indian bank will move to RHEL on 1,000 servers and 10,000 workstations. Not sure if they'll be using GNOME, given that they're migrating from DOS and Netware, perhaps they're going to be using a

Re: response to linus...?

2005-12-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Fernando San Martín Woerner wrote: El sáb, 17-12-2005 a las 00:53 +1100, Jeff Waugh escribió: I'm really disappointed that Quim and German aren't on, but everyone who stood this year was rad in one way or another, so I'm again disappointed that we've reduced the number of directors.

Re: About copyright infringments

2006-01-11 Thread Dave Neary
marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Dave Neary Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

Re: Website

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Claus Schwarm wrote: It might be a good idea to look for several persons, not just for one. The GNOME web is rather large. For example, you can't expect somebody maintaining www.gnome.org to take care about live.gnome.org, too. This is simply too much work for a single volunteer. To be

Dark background foot

2006-04-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Twice now I've needed a GNOME foot that worked well on a dark background. I've used the one attached, which works well, I think. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Looking for representatives for a GNOME stand in San Diego, 24 - 25 April

2006-04-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, The GNOME Foundation has a stand at the Desktop Linux Summit in San Diego this year - the event is on the 24th and 25th of April. I'm looking for a couple of volunteers who would like to go and man the stand during the two days, we can cover some printing costs for the stand and

Re: Dark background foot

2006-04-03 Thread Dave Neary
Check the changelog before you hit send! http://live.gnome.org/RecentChanges Cheers, Dave. Luis Villa wrote: Wiki! :) Luis On 4/3/06, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Twice now I've needed a GNOME foot that worked well on a dark background. I've used the one attached, which works

Re: Report from the GNOME booth at Eclispe Con

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Murray, Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 20:35 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: Except the 'dekstop' typo - And whenever should probably be whether or if. Any chance you could have a check over the rest of the text and suggest a different version? The SVG is in the wiki, so

[Fwd: [Foundations] Siggraph tradeshow]

2006-04-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Is siggraph something we should be interested in? Projects like the GIMP have participated before, and with the usage GNOME is getting in Hollywood, perhaps it's something we should consider. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Hi all, I know there's not

Re: Printed program take off

2006-04-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sara Khalatbari wrote: So about the content: What do you think it should include? In introduction? about guadec? or guadec 2006? or? A few words from the conference co-ordinator. A short history of GUADEC. A foreword for this GUADEC, describing what's new. Any interviews? (give

Marketing GNOME BOF

2006-06-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, I had not planned staying around GUADEC on Friday, which is when the GNOME marketing BOF has been planned: Presentation: http://guadec.org/node/218 Schedule: http://guadec.org/GUADEC2006/schedule/AHW I see two possibilities: 1. I move the BOF into Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday (without

Re: [guadec-list] Marketing GNOME BOF

2006-06-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: El dj 01 de 06 del 2006 a les 16:40 +0200, en/na Dave Neary va escriure: 1. I move the BOF into Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday (without being in the printed schedule, of course), and get the interested parties together during a time when there's no major clash My vote

Re: slide templates missing?

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Jeff Waugh wrote: Hrm, might be an artifact of the wiki migration - I'll take a look tomorrow (ping me on IRC about it when I'm around - I'll probably not remember this email because I'm at an Ubuntu developer summit and have been drinking.) No - it looks like they were moved on the

Re: [Fwd: Exhibitor Magazine Honors LinuxWorld San Francisco 2005 for its Attendee Traffic Density]

2006-07-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Paul Cooper wrote: That experience made me think about writing a cheat sheet for Expos - but it turns out that there is already an excellent set of notes at http://live.gnome.org/MarketingTeam/EventsOrganisation thanks to Thilo, Murray and Luis. It will only take a small amount of

Re: OSCON was Re: [Fwd: blah blah LinuxWorld San Francisco 2005 blah blah]

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Paul Cooper wrote: I would tend to agree with Sriram that a booth may not be the most productive use of our time at OSCON. I've just found out that they are also doing a BarCamp style unconference in parallel with OSCON called (wait for it.) OSCAMP. See http://oscamp.org - in

Re: [Gimp-user] Call for art!

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, By the way, in case I wasn't clear before - this is one 30x60 banner for both the GIMP and GNOME. If in doubt, then GNOME should be the dominant theme on there. Cheers, Dave. Jakub Steiner wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 23:21 +0200, David Neary wrote: Can someone do a 30 x 60 banner

Re: [Gimp-user] Call for art!

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Neary
Thanks Jakub! Any chance that you can send me the SVG? ;-) All that's needed really is the project name, website, and maybe a glimpse of a screenshot, I think. I've had few guidelines, artistic licence is the order of the day. No catchy slogans required :) Cheers, Dave. Jakub Steiner wrote:

Re: Call for art!

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Andreas Nilsson wrote: David Neary wrote: Can someone do a 30 x 60 banner design for GIMP GNOME for me this week, by any chance? Please? It should have both the GNOME logo and Wilber, but aside from that you're free. Do you mean something like this? Or do you mean one logo on each

Re: [Gimp-user] Call for art!

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Mukund, Mukund wrote: I see time is limited for this, but I would really like more than one artist to collaborate and do this as a team. That's all I have to add. Given the time constraints, and previous experience with this kind of thing, design by committee is definitely not a good idea.

Re: Wiki changes [Was: Personas]

2006-07-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, James Henstridge wrote: On 16/07/06, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you tell me how? The little feed icon's gone, and I couldn't find an rss action. Still seems available as here: http://live.gnome.org/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc There is a comment at the top of that

Re: On breaking the woohoo barrier...thoughts on how GNOME can get great

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm wrote: snip If Doc Searls' thesis about the viability of traditional marketing is correct, why are OSS projects that care about this traditional marketing more successful than those who not? I think you have the cart and the horse in the wrong order there. What has

Re: Attracting sponsors

2006-07-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Dulmandakh, DULMANDAKH Sukhbaatar wrote: It's not just connected to GNOME, but community events at all. Here, in Mongolia, I organized first Linux Install Fest in 7th of April, and will organize many of them. But everytime I initiate some ideas or community events I end up having

Re: cms performance

2006-07-27 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Kinda. The il8n stuff makes the journal a single language one. One I do not find optimal as the magazines [1] who have re-printed our articles have mostly been Spanish speaking. I missed the footnote in your mail... Linux Pratique last year [1] reprinted

Re: Attracting sponsors

2006-07-27 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: Coincidentally, I just knew today about http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/fundraising-list I guess it is an obsolete list. Can we recycle something from their activity in the past? Not only is it an obsolete list, it looks like it was obsolete when created. There

Re: Upcoming Events: LWE SFO

2006-08-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Corey, Lloyd, Just removing a few mailing lists from the mix, and adding Jorge's name on here. He's probably on marketing-list already, but no harm being safe. Thanks Jeff for sending out the call for help! Cheers, Dave. Corey Burger wrote: On 7/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Fwd: [Foundations] EuroOSCON .org day]

2006-08-04 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, EurOSCon is reserving place for free software projects to present in Amsterdam this year - is there any interest in a GNOME stand there? My initial feeling is no - from what I've seen, the OSCons aren't particularly desktop oriented, or necessarily free *nix oriented. But if someone is

Journalists contacted

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, I just sent mail to Joe Zonker Brockmeier, Ando Oram, Nathan Willis and Denis Bodor about the 2.16 release (following my own advice and centralising the knowledge). Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org

Re: Journalists contacted

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary
I also contacted Graeme Wearden of ZDNet and Gavin Clarke of TheRegister (through a web form, if anyone knows him feel free to double up). Cheers, Dave. Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, I just sent mail to Joe Zonker Brockmeier (Newsforge and more), Ando Oram (ORA), Nathan Willis (also Newsforge

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Santiago, If you are a del.icio.us user, then please bookmark these with the tag gnome216 (you can use more than one tag if you like, but please include that one). I think I got these three, but there's no harm in having pages bookmarked more than once. I haven't seen any Spanish articles

Re: About the 2.18 release plans (was Re: User oriented release notes)

2006-09-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Quim, Quim Gil wrote: In short: let's propose to the release team a call for 2.18 goals to the developers. Maybe you missed this mail I sent to desktop-devel-list last week: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-September/msg00114.html I have a file containing all of the

Re: layout Plan - feedback form

2006-09-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, LeeTambiah wrote: Claus Schwarm has requested an extra block for the second page being a link to feedback form. I personally feel this is unnecessary as the user can get information from the about section. Shall we go with this, drop it, or add as an optional component? I've mostly

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Quim Gil a écrit : Good bits in GNOME 2.16 http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/2031230 Not yet del.icio.us user, sorry. Gah. some minor feature enhancements? If there's one thing I regret it's that we didn't push this release as The big performance push - there was a wealth of blog

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Santiago Roza a écrit : maybe because we didn't have any benchmarks available, i guess. how could we have them for future releases? The Evolution guys had (and sent us) benchmarks, Federico Mena, Ben Maurer, Cecilia Gonzalez Alvarez, Phillip van Hoof, Behdad Esfahbod... all of these

Wow - look at the KDE news volume

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
http://www.google.com/trends?q=gnome%2Ckdectab=0geo=alldate=all Even though our search volume is staying roughly identical to KDE? look at their news references. We need to improve at this, the way the KDE promotion team have. That means a CRM (on its way, honest) and a really regular feed of

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Claus, Claus Schwarm a écrit : This is what could be made after feedback from a helpful Evolution developer. Read it and ask yourself how many people are really affected by these improvements. I'm not sure whether that would have been sufficient to produce the headlines you're thinking

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, I'm feeling some aggression and defensiveness here which I'm going to put down to cultural differences. I will say, though, that we all have a part to play in improving things, and I think that this could have been addressed better if I'd brought it up before the release (mea culpa).

Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Claus Schwarm a écrit : Can you provide a rationale why do you think the time of developers is so much more valuable than anybody else's time? snip I was just talking about efficient organization: to minimize the work load for everybody, some agreements need to be taken care of. So, if

Re: Wow - look at the KDE news volume

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Neary
Jeff Waugh a écrit : quote who=Dave Neary http://www.google.com/trends?q=gnome%2Ckdectab=0geo=alldate=all Dave, you have to be a bit more discerning. :-) How realistic do you think those numbers are, considering your experience with our press coverage? It doesn't seem right, surely

Re: Wow - look at the KDE news volume

2006-10-18 Thread Dave Neary
Jeff Waugh a écrit : quote who=Dave Neary http://www.google.com/trends?q=gnome%2Ckdectab=0geo=alldate=all Dave, you have to be a bit more discerning. :-) How realistic do you think those numbers are, considering your experience with our press coverage? It doesn't seem right, surely

Re: Wow - look at the KDE news volume

2006-10-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, I'm not sure why, but a couple of mails from me just got released (perhaps from moderation) that were sent several weeks ago. Ignoring them is probably best :) Cheers, Dave. Thilo Pfennig wrote: 2006/9/26, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The lesson, it appears to me, is that we should

Re: marketing-list tiny reorg

2006-10-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Quim Gil Do you think it makes sense to - move back to gnome-web-list all the web development discussion Yes please! But please bring it back here when we start talking about content rather than form. - create [EMAIL PROTECTED] and move there all the

Re: GNOME Logo Branding Guidelines Concerns

2006-10-25 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Murray, Murray Cumming wrote: Máirín is asking this partly because I think that some of the existing sub-logos on that page break our own rules about how to use the logo. We make the rules. Trademarks are about quality control and corporate image. So we can approve logos which are stylish

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