Hi everyone :)
I've signed up for two of the goals for 2.16, because
they're closely related:
* Define the content and scope of www.gnome.org
* Define a clear structure for www.gnome.org
So... before I willy-nilly wade into the draft [1] and
play about with it, what are everybody's
--- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we need to get beyond the idea of software
map or projects and
start thinking about how we can best serve the needs
of our users - and our
software maintainers! Some things that we should
think about can not even be
boiled down to cvs or
--- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see wgo/apps/ page as an about box on steroids. It
would be _the_ pace
to go to find out some basic info about a gnome app.
That's a good way of putting it :)
Material that is currently in wgo/projects that is
more aimed at developers should go
--- Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Comprised of hundreds of volunteer developers
and industry-leading
companies, the GNOME Foundation is an organization
committed to
supporting the advancement of GNOME. GNOME is a
free software project
that provides a complete,
--- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 22:54 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Joachim Noreiko
--- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see wgo/apps/ page as an about box on
steroids. It would be _the_ pace
to go to find out some basic info about
--- Gezim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-05-08 at 12:49 +0200, Gergely Nagy
wrote:
Hi,
Hi.
All right, so let's get back to basics :)
We seem to need to do this, every now and then.
Clearly, for these pages to make some sense at
all, there has to be some
--- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Joachim Noreiko
wgo/app | projects
intro, shots | contact, download, roadmap, ideas
Why split? Reaching out to potential GNOME
contributors and showing people
the wonder of Free Software is our responsibility.
Of course
--- Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quim, and Gazim was it? Not scrolling is soo
overrated. Screen sizes
(and windows sizes!) are not uniform, so there is no
way of avoiding
scrolling. (To rant a bit, I hate designs which
impose too much
structure on a web page. It might look cool on
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
El dc 02 de 08 del 2006 a les 15:00 +0100, en/na
Joachim Noreiko va
escriure:
What should wgo provide to a visitor?
... or what wgo wants visitors to provide. ;)
First we need to identify the visitors we want to
satisfy best. Let's
--- Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't get me wrong. I think most points of the
former proposal are
valid and should be kept in the current wgo
revamp. See
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure ,
I'm asking for
selecting and merging. Why don't you work together
with
--- Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, I have a draft about the why; reformulated
from existing
pages. It's attached. A native English speaker is
probably able
to refine the basic idea without problems; I just
picked the words in
the headers because of their, well, rhythm.
I've finished work on condensing the different drafts,
and following some feedback from Quim, it's on the
wiki:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure
Note that the top-level section titles are not
necessarily the navigation bar link phrases. I was
thinking in terms of URLs rather than
--- Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The structure lacks a portal for third-party
developers: This is
GNOME's most important product. The desktop has no
real selling points
unless lots of third-party dev's use the dev.
platform.
Fair enough. Could you add something to the plan for
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GOALS FOR 6/SEP - 2.16 RELEASE
All the goals are related to planning only:
- Define the content and scope of www.gnome.org
I'm not terribly good at this sort of thing, but my
first attempt is here:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoScope
Please
--- Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- writing the start page: it should be quite
easy, but we can improve
it. See [3] for an example.
I've not included a start page in the plan for the new
WGO structure (
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure )
I can't see what it is
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- writing the release notes front page
- writing the start page
+ if we want a press release
Still no feedback about my proposal to have these
three pages in a
single one. Less work for probably a better result.
I hadn't seen that, but
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the theme Clarius,
Apparently, that's just a new name for Clearlooks.
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--- Panos Laganakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's version 07d:
http://panos.solhost.org/mockups/gnome-banner-07d.png
Removed the themes icons and changed the VERSION to
v and brought the
text closer.
I have to note that I like the verbose 'VERSION' to
v2.16 though :)
I'm not sure
--- Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunatly, I probably not a developer myself so I
had to guess
wildly about the meaning of some notes.
Developers need to write human-readable release notes.
My first try is available here:
--- Max Jonas Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
but there's one thing that irritated me: The
Epiphany home page is
http://www.google.com; per default.
Wouldn't it be better to set it to
http://www.gnome.org/start/X.YY; for
every release?
No, because that's release notes. As is being
--- Luca Cavalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:33 +0100, Joachim Noreiko
wrote:
Another option could be to create a
Gnome start page just
for the purpose of using it as home page in
Epiphany.
Hmmm... maybe.
But don't most distros overwrite that anyway
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Integrate marketing and business visions with
the technical vision
that is guiding the 2.18 release. Since day zero.
snip
Someone
needs to think what these bodies need and how the
next release is going
to help them, be useful to them.
I think
--- Claus Schwarm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Concerning your vision stuff: This looks like
bullshit to me. Maybe
I've seen to many clueless marketing people speak
like that, and my
impression is wrong. However, it looks like
bullshit. Sorry. :-(
I think that 'vision' is one of those
--- LeeTambiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ahh, I refer to the main top bar as the GENERAL
NAVIGATION BAR, the bar that access's the gnome
subsites subsites.
Oops, I see I got my terms mixed up.
How about we call them:
* GNOME navigation bar -- takes you to different
subsites in the GNOME web
--- LeeTambiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The breadcrumb component has been dropped, and pages
have been updated
have been updated. I have added a new version of the
secondary page
layoutPlanSecondaryPage0.3.svg. Download the .svg
from
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/PageStructure.
I still
--- LeeTambiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Secondary Page layout is now centre aligned on
the page[1]. Should
we apply the centre align to the home page also, at
current it is left
aligned. I think the home page should also be centre
aligned like the
Apple site[2].
I agree.
--- Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everybody,
Using Lee's site structure wireframe mockup, I put
together another
iteration of the WGO look feel mockup:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/LooknFeel
Below I'm going to highlight some issues and bring
up some questions to
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure if it's appropriate to show all these
feet in the primary nav bar.
We are used to see GNOME feed all around but how
would it look like to
new users?
I was thinking the same, it's a bit too heavy having
the foot on each navbar item.
Quim, I really like the changes you've made to the new
structure plan at
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure
My only concern is how deep down you've placed
Support.
I can see that Support is not worth a top-level link,
because it's only a page of links to the forums and
the mailing
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A suggestion to fix a couple of planning documents
before the 2.16.1
deadline (4/oct).
If you look at
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoScope and the
General
Goals at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Goals you
will see that both
lists have some
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 12:43 +0100, Joachim Noreiko
wrote:
Overview is a synonym for About.
Overview - What we do
Subpages: 10 Steps | Screenshots | Videos
About - Who we are
Subpages: Project | Teams | Foundation | History |
Logo Trademarks
--- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a lot of stuff people talk about on pgo.
What do you think?
That release notes writers have nothing better to
do than taking notes
about stuff developers say somewhere on the
Internet?
Well, it's my primary news source to know what
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is stated in that document that all pages should
conform to XHTML 1.1. I think this is a bad idea
unless you want to keep out Internet Explorer users
since XHTML 1.1 requires the web server to send the
MIME type application/xhtml+xml instead of the
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2.18 GnomeWeb update:
Greg, do we have news about the CMS selection? We
start needing a
solution since we have the prototyping phase around
the corner and it
would be good to start working with the final CMS.
Next Wednesday we have another
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can we borrow the Just Works! (tm) slogan?
*somewhere* on the wiki I wrote an idea for a slogan,
but I can't find it. I think it was something like
Your computer, simpler.
___
Try
I've taken on three of the wgo subsections goals.
However, I'm not entirely clear on what the goals
entail.
I presume we're going to decide how many pages we want
in this section, what each one is about, and write the
text?
I've set up a goal page for the first of them:
--- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Quim Gil
* projects.gnome.org -
GnomeWeb/ProjectsPages . I want to update
this page and see if we find a 2.18
solution that satisfies
Jeff.
* support.gnome.org . Hopefully Luke will
want to take on this.
--- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Joachim Noreiko
Those ideas never needed to be in opposition, but
were pushed that way. They
are not mutually exclusive.
Fair enough.
But then what's your objection? Using the projects.g.o
subdomain?
That doesn't have to imply Yet
--- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Joachim Noreiko
Those ideas never needed to be in opposition,
but were pushed that way.
They are not mutually exclusive.
Fair enough. But then what's your objection?
Using the projects.g.o
subdomain?
Yes. It's unnecessary
--- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there we come back to the problem of
parallel channels. I
think it is important if you add content to a page
that you tell why
this is listed. My impression was that these things
were already
discussed but now my impression is that this list
does
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 09:34 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
What on earth is community.gnome.org?
As for today it is a launcher from the general nav
bar to the GNOME is
People subsites:
* Planet GNOME
* GUADEC and other event subsites
Hi all.
I've taken on the task of co-ordinating three of the
goals that are concerned with creating pages of the
new www.gnome.org:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoGetStarted
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoGetInvolved
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/WgoAbout
The first two in particular are
--- Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- (Wearing noob user's hat) Some of the links seem a
bit vague, e.g.
what's the difference between the News link and the
news I'm looking at
on the home page, and why should I ever need to
visit an About page--
shouldn't all the other pages cover
--- Hugh Buzacott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
and I'm thinking 'Yikes... How are we going to
do
this?'
/me raises a tentative hand for volunteering.
However, I am new to this
so would require some precise guidance and work in
reasonable sized
chunks
Just seen this:
https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty
Isn't this the sort of thing we were saying needs to
be done for each gnome cycle, so we know what we're
aiming for, and the marketing team knows what a
release's focus will be?
Send instant messages to your online friends
--- Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joachim Noreiko wrote:
Bear in mind that GnomeWeb/WgoGetInvolved is the
planning page for one of several pieces of WGO
content
we have to work on.
I sort of assumed it as such :)
Super :)
I thought as much, but best to make
--- Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Catching up late in the game is sometimes
unsettling. So here I was
trying to grasp the spread of the tasks and FIXMEs
and ToDo when I
chanced upon this subtask:
Spread GNOME -- is this an existing endeavour or
something we're
--- Djihed Afifi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 11:44 +, Joachim Noreiko
wrote:
I still wonder why
we need an external site to promote GNOME. To me
it is
a symptom of a
GNOME and gnome.org failure. The wgo revamp tries
to
solve failures like
this, and I don't
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about inserting here a page about Innovation
Roadmap... GNOME
shaping its future.
That would be good. If that was something GNOME did.
What else? Perhaps mentioning the 10X10 and Topaz
would make sense here
as well.
No.
10x10 is a pipedream
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 14:36 +, Joachim Noreiko
wrote:
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about inserting here a page about
Innovation
Roadmap... GNOME
shaping its future.
That would be good. If that was something GNOME
I've done a bit more on the page list for the About
and Get Involved sections. Get Started is still do to,
if anyone wants to have a go.
These summaries are pretty basic, so please add more
to them if you think it's needed.
When can we actually start writing pages on the CMS?
I know the skins
--- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The marketing team should define an overall goal
for GNOME. We should
not just invent slogans. We also should not try to
sell GNOME. I
think that we do not want that because than we
would want people to
use GNOME instead of KDE or other
--- Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can ve invest your contributing energies and design
qualities in real
deliverables? :)
I'd really like it someone did a new version of the
banner for the marketing team:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing
Unless we simply decide we don't need a
--- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I don't really see blocking. I think we will
not increase
awarenesss of GNOME from our website. The websites
are a mess - but
whoever visits GNOME websites has at least some idea
of why he visits
these pages.
I mean that working on
--- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/24/06, Joachim Noreiko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When a user boots Ubuntu, they see the Ubuntu
splash,
the Ubuntu desktop background, and the Ubuntu logo
on
the panel. And that's as it should
Nothing seems to be happening here of late.
I'm aware that we have deadlines coming up, and that
there's a few goals I'm supposed to be in charge of.
Problem is, I have no idea what the status of our CMS
setup is, or where I'm supposed to go do actually
start putting in some content.
Could
--- Ramon Navarro Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi ,
I added the editors Quim said to me on the devsite (
gnome.jardigrec.eu
) where they can began adding content on english.
I get 'Error 503 Service Unavailable'
And anyway -- what are the login details?
on IRC and
you can just tell me the password?
En/na Joachim Noreiko ha escrit:
--- Ramon Navarro Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The URL : https://gnome.jardigrec.eu
The login details : username : jnoreiko
I reseted the password that should be sended to
[EMAIL PROTECTED
--- Ramon Navarro Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It sends the mail but I saw :
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