Only Ron Paul knows whether or not Ron Paul is a homophobic bigot.
His positions and policy proposals, however, are a matter of public
record, and there is absolutely no doubt that those positions and
policy proposals are homophobic and bigoted ... and therefore the
distinction between Ron Paul
Brian Miller wrote:
BM) Considering that neither Mr. Holtz nor Mr. Gregory are (to my knowledge)
LGBTQ persons, and also considering that neither are members of Outright
Libertarians, I fail to see how either individual can claim literally any
expertise on the area of LGBTQ issues. (BM
Here, by the way, is what I tried to post on LP Radicals:
Ron Paul has said gay people should not be booted from the military unless
they act disruptively, same as straights.
Personally, I disagree with him. Straights and gays have no right to work
for an aggressive, socialist institution. And
Yes I agree that after Brian Millers statement that
those critizizing him cannot possibly understand the
situation because they are not Lesbian-gay-or
transexual is a prejiduced and bigoted statement. I
also am not gay (or transexual or bisexual). I also
have stood up in defense for Ron Paul. I
Well, gents, considering the rampant problem of heterophobia in society, I must
plead guilty to an astonishing lack of compassion for the heterosexual
community.
Fortunately, I am white, otherwise I might be accused of anti-white racism as
well. We know what a problem that is in our society
Brian, I don't think you're reading what we're saying.
Look, are you a user of meth, cocaine and LSD? If not, does that mean you
can't rigorously oppose the war on drugs? I find such reasoning quite
dubious.
Since you don't know anything about my sexuality I think it's presumptuous
of you to say
We never said that we know more about any issue than
you, we keep saying the same things:
1. We all agree that everyone deserves equall rights
regaurdless of sexual orientation, and we can know
this wheather we are gay or not.
2. We all agree that mariage should not be licensed
by any
I'm all for straight allies. There are lots of them, many of them are informed
about the issues.
Unfortunately, all the criticism of Outright's scorecard is without basis, and
when it comes from people who aren't involved in any of the issues in question
-- sans Outright's input/involvement
Yes, it's disingenuous to say that a libertarian opposing the central state
overriding sodomy laws is approving of those laws. Similarly, it's
disingenuous to say that a libertarian who opposes wars to conduct regime
change approves of those regimes.
Wouldn't you agree?
On 11/1/07, Brian Holtz
Brian, do you really believe that being kicked out of the military is a
rights violation? As a radical, why would you favor the right of anyone to
work for a criminal institution?
On 11/1/07, Brian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm all for straight allies. There are lots of them, many of
On 11/1/07, Brian Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anthony Gregory wrote:
AG) Similarly, it's disingenuous to say that a libertarian who opposes
wars to conduct regime change approves of those regimes. Wouldn't you agree?
(AG
Yes, which is why I've never said otherwise.
Just checking.
--
,
Brian
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Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 11:54:47 AM
Subject: RE: [marketliberal] Re: Ron Paul a homophobic bigot?
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Thomas L. Knapp
--- Thomas L. Knapp
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Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is
no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the
Constitution.
The 9th Amendment recognizes rights even if not stated
explicitly. These are both common-law and natural
rights that exits apart
Thomas L. Knapp wrote:
TK) there is absolutely no doubt that those positions and policy proposals
are homophobic and bigoted ... and therefore the distinction between Ron
Paul as possibly homophobic/bigoted and his positions and policy proposals
as obviously so is a distinction that doesn't make
Tom Knapp wrote
BH) It remains absurd to claim that Paul believes that government -- not
individuals -- should be the final arbiters of your sex life and the sexual
activities of consenting adults. (BH
TK) Fine. If he doesn't believe it, he should stop saying it. (TK
He hasn't said it. I
Thomas L. Knapp wrote:
TK) I have never required that a candidate I support agree with me on
everything. Rumors to the contrary notwithstanding, Kubby and I are not the
same person (TK
I didn't claim you were; I'm just trying to understand the limits (if any)
of your tolerance for the
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