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If anyone has a sub to the Times, I’d be interested to read the full article:
"There is no evidence men identify as transgender to access female-only spaces
to commit sexual violence, the Scottish government has said.
"Draft legislation to reform and streamline the process for obtaining a Gender
Recognition Certificate was published yesterday.
"It would remove the requirement for applicants to provide medical evidence of their
diagnosis of gender dysphoria, while retaining a condition that applicants must make a
solemn statutory declaration that they have been living in their acquired gender and
intend to do so permanently."
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/no-evidence-that-men-are-using-trans-identity-for-sexual-violence-zkplwlfzs
There is no evidence men identify as transgender to access female-only
spaces to commit sexual violence, the Scottish government has said.
Draft legislation to reform and streamline the process for obtaining a
Gender Recognition Certificate was published yesterday.
It would remove the requirement for applicants to provide medical
evidence of their diagnosis of gender dysphoria, while retaining a
condition that applicants must make a solemn statutory declaration that
they have been living in their acquired gender and intend to do so
permanently.
A minimum three-month period of reflection between applying for a Gender
Recognition Certificate and confirming the application would also be
introduced as part of the bill. This would mean applicants must have
lived in their acquired gender for a minimum of six months before a
certificate is granted.
The legislation would also retain the position that a false statutory
declaration is a criminal offence and introduce a new offence of false
application - each with a potential punishment of up to two years'
imprisonment.
The minimum age of potential applicants would be reduced from 18 to 16
as part of the proposals, which will attempt to build greater consensus
on a hugely controversial issue that has polarised opinion and divided
the SNP.
Shirley-Anne Somerville, the social security secretary, acknowledged
that some organisations have made women feel "uncomfortable and less
safe" in their attempts to be inclusive to transgender people.
However, the consultation stated: "The Scottish government has not
identified any evidence supporting a link between women-only spaces
being inclusive of transgender women and non-trans men falsely claiming
a trans identity to access these spaces and commit sexual violence."
Other sources reiterated their view that there was a lack of any
evidence to support this claim.
Ms Somerville said: "Women's rights and protections will be as strong
under this bill as they are today, as we remain committed to protect,
respect, and advance the rights of women and girls. We are not proposing
to change the Equality Act or the exceptions within it that protect
single sex spaces and services."
For Women Scotland, a feminist group, suggested that voices opposed to
the proposals had so far been ignored.
A spokeswoman said the group would consider the consultation paper
thoroughly before formulating a full response, adding: "It is of great
concern that since the consultation announcement in June the Scottish
government has not met with any women's groups, other than those it
funds and who are broadly in agreement with the proposals. Alternative
viewpoints and concerns on the issue of self-identification of sex have
not been heard and brings into question the cabinet secretary's wish to
reach consensus."
Lynn Welsh, head of legal at the Equality and Human Rights Commission
Scotland, welcomed the consultation, which will close in March, stating:
"This bill offers a welcome opportunity to remove unnecessary practical
barriers trans people face in securing legal recognition of their gender
identity.
"Nothing in the bill will threaten the continued operation of the
Equality Act provisions protecting women-only services and spaces, which
recognise the particular needs of women and the need for protection from
sex-based violence."
Patrick Harvie, the Scottish Greens co-leader, said: "The proposals will
simply make life easier for trans people who want to get their
