Re: [Marxism] Harper's Published an Awful Open Letter About "Toleration" | The Mary Sue
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * It's not just about liberal academics whinging about a few negative emails though. It's also about incidents like the 2019 'deplatforming' of Cindy Sheehan. Cheers, John On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM A.R. G via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > So Noam Chomsky is a transphobia-defender now? > > This piece is garbage. Of course some of the people in the list are > right-wing hypocrites (Bari Weiss, obviously) but the rest of this piece is > trash. Indeed, the list of examples that the author presumes the > signatories are criticizing don't consist of examples of people using their > platforms to be awful. Some of them, particularly the quoting of the N-word > show the exact opposite: that positions of power and influence are being > used to teach the works of anti-racist luminaries like MLK and James > Baldwin. Another example was a graphic video that showed the (graphic) > nature of lynchings and slavery. This echoes the manipulative campaign that > was used by neoliberal types to get rid of the communist mural at the high > school in San Francisco that properly labelled George Washignton a slave > owner. I wonder if any of these trigger-warning types would suggest > shutting down the Holocaust museum because its content is graphic? > > That the author of this piece throws in quoting the N-word from one of > their books with trying to dehumanize transgender people or something is > absolute nonsense. > > Moreover, the author seems to have conveniently left out all of the times > where leftist causes have faced cancellation and censorship, the most > obvious being Palestine. I'm inclined to agree with the author that people > criticizing you is not a form of "censorship" per se but the use of > Twitter, Facebook, etc. to swarm on professors for making ideological faux > pas is a deeply troubling development in my book.In my view the bigger > issue is that this dynamic is simply ignored when the targets are leftists, > and indeed, this piece simply erased the most prominent example of cancel > culture and censorship on college campuses, which is the attempts to > destroy the lives of scholars and activists for Palestine. > > Amith R. Gupta > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:04 PM Michael Meeropol via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > > > POSTING RULES & NOTES > > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > > * > > > > And Deirdre McCloskey is a trans-phobe? > > > > (answer: She was born Donald McCloskey ) > > _ > > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > > Set your options at: > > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > > > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/johnedmundson4%40gmail.com > -- "All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks." Sarah Moore Grimke, abolitionist (1792-1873) _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Harper's Published an Awful Open Letter About "Toleration" | The Mary Sue
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * So Noam Chomsky is a transphobia-defender now? This piece is garbage. Of course some of the people in the list are right-wing hypocrites (Bari Weiss, obviously) but the rest of this piece is trash. Indeed, the list of examples that the author presumes the signatories are criticizing don't consist of examples of people using their platforms to be awful. Some of them, particularly the quoting of the N-word show the exact opposite: that positions of power and influence are being used to teach the works of anti-racist luminaries like MLK and James Baldwin. Another example was a graphic video that showed the (graphic) nature of lynchings and slavery. This echoes the manipulative campaign that was used by neoliberal types to get rid of the communist mural at the high school in San Francisco that properly labelled George Washignton a slave owner. I wonder if any of these trigger-warning types would suggest shutting down the Holocaust museum because its content is graphic? That the author of this piece throws in quoting the N-word from one of their books with trying to dehumanize transgender people or something is absolute nonsense. Moreover, the author seems to have conveniently left out all of the times where leftist causes have faced cancellation and censorship, the most obvious being Palestine. I'm inclined to agree with the author that people criticizing you is not a form of "censorship" per se but the use of Twitter, Facebook, etc. to swarm on professors for making ideological faux pas is a deeply troubling development in my book.In my view the bigger issue is that this dynamic is simply ignored when the targets are leftists, and indeed, this piece simply erased the most prominent example of cancel culture and censorship on college campuses, which is the attempts to destroy the lives of scholars and activists for Palestine. Amith R. Gupta On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:04 PM Michael Meeropol via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > And Deirdre McCloskey is a trans-phobe? > > (answer: She was born Donald McCloskey ) > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Harper's Published an Awful Open Letter About "Toleration" | The Mary Sue
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[Marxism] Harper's Published an Awful Open Letter About "Toleration" | The Mary Sue
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * https://www.themarysue.com/harpers-mag-open-letter-dog-whistles/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
