I had composed a post because I wanted to say how excellently well, 
Ralph Dumain's letter of Jun 14 1996 reads. As fresh as new. But I 
cannot confirm I sent it. Apologies.

 Chris Burford


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>> Dialectics of Nature
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>> Ralph Dumain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:34:44 -0700 (PDT)
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>> However amateurish Engels's unpublished writings on the natural 
>> sciences may
>> have been, he doesn't deserve to be equated with pomo analogical 
>> word magic.
>> That is insulting and I won't stand for it.  At the time when 
>> DIALECTICS OF
>> NATURE was published, people were still struggling, especially in 
>> the
>> English-speaking world, to figure out what dialectics really meant, 
>> in the
>> absence of a tradition and with only the Russians to follow.  I 
>> would
>> suggest that you look for a good historical article that explains 
>> what
>> Engels was trying to do in the context of his time, and also 
>> remember that
>> Engels wasn't the one who made his exploratory work into a 
>> finished,
>> dogmatic philosophy.  Remember too that it is not only Western 
>> Marxism that
>> challenged Engels: Lenin criticized Engels's examples of dialectics 
>> in
>> nature, so it was not he who froze Engels in stone either.  To be
>> scandalized that others worshipped at the throne of Engels 
>> disregarding his
>> imperfections is one thing, but to be scandalized at Engels himself 
>> is to
>> read him through the lenses of Stalinism and thereby to compound 
>> the
>> problem.
>>
>> I do not have the time to explore this matter, or to respond to 
>> DIALECTICS
>> OF NATURE specifically, but I would at least like to raise some 
>> issues that
>> might make the context more understandable.
>> I'm basing these remarks on general considerations, not on a 
>> reading of this
>> text in particular.
>>
>> These are some of the battles that needed to be fought at the
>> time:
>>
>> 1.  The battle against naive empiricism and mechanical materialism 
>> and a
>> disconnected, atomistic view of reality.
>>
>> 2.  The need for a unified, coherent world-picture, that would 
>> connect all
>> phenomena, which was already under way within physics itself in the
>> understanding of thermodynamics, motion, electromagnetism in their 
>> various
>> manifestations.
>>
>> 3.  The need to show that the universe undergoes development, 
>> qualitative
>> change, that it is not static and eternally fixeed in the state in 
>> which it
>> is now found.
>>
>> 4.  The need for a non-reductive materialism that recognized 
>> qualitative
>> differences within in the material universe and a stratified 
>> conception of
>> the organization of matter, not merely unity of the universe, which 
>> itself
>> had been rendered in a mystical holist or reductive fashion, but 
>> also
>> qualitative difference, so that the natural sciences -- physics 
>> interpreted
>> in a purely quantitative manner -- could not be misused to explain 
>> social
>> processes.  Before ideas of emergent evolution, emergent 
>> properties, general
>> systems, the theory of integrative levels, and related notions 
>> gained
>> currency, there was Engels.
>>
>> A final note: to approach the world in a piecemeal fashion is 
>> always to fill
>> in the inevitable gaps with ideology.  Engels too was aware of this 
>> and knew
>> what blockheads petty bourgeois minds were outside of their narrow
>> specialties.  Only the working class movement sought to create a 
>> unified yet
>> non-mystical world-picture, neither mechanical materialist (i.e. 
>> reducing
>> our scientific ambition to mere measurement), nor holist nor
>> lebensphilosophie.  Self-educated workers kept their Dietzgen in 
>> their
>> living rooms in place of the Bible.  The significance of 
>> dialectical
>> materialism lies in the general world-picture of the universe 
>> organized on
>> several qualitative levels, from the physical to the chemical to 
>> the organic
>> to the social, and not in spurious examples of dialectical 
>> processes in
>> nature.
>>
>>
>>     --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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