Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread c b
Thanks CJ, I'll take a look. I'm not an expert, but from my experience, cats are less responsive to word symbols than dogs. Note that even dogs can learn a small number of symbols. They respond to their names. On 11/24/09, CeJ jann...@gmail.com wrote: Hey CB, you might find this article

[Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread c b
CJ, have you studied Vygotsky ? He seems to be the most Marxoid of all the famous linguists. Oh I didn't send the Blunden essays on Vygotsky. Very interesting and Marxist development of the relationship between thought and language Vygotsky and the Dialectical Method

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread CeJ
JFIt is my understanding that dogs can understand up to several hundred words. They are also excellent readers of human body language. Yes, and the reason why so many humans get bit is that humans are not very good readers of canine body language. There is a theory out of Africa, Australia and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread CeJ
Objective spirit might be interpreted materialisitically as culture, custom, tradition, systems of ideas shared by peoples. Spirit not as a wispy , non-material whatever , nor as a disembodied ghost, nor The Idea as a demiurge, but as shared ideas in many peoples' brains. On the Levi-Strauss

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread CeJ
CJ, have you studied Vygotsky ? He seems to be the most Marxoid of all the famous linguists. Back in the 80s it was quite common to cite: 1. Vygotsky in education and education psychology 2. Bakhtin in literary criticism 3. Elkonen (? unsure of romanization now) in 'reading science'. All

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread CeJ
See this, if you are interested in Vygotsky and/or Piaget: http://www.marxists.org/archive/elkonin/works/1971/stages.htm Wish they had more by him! CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread CeJ
http://www.marxists.org/subject/psychology/index.htm Going to this section of the the mo site, it's interesting to track down and compare Vygotsky on 'crisis of psychology' with Husserl on the subject. Husserl wrote a book about the topic. CJ ___

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread CeJ
Reading across Vygotsky, Elkonin, Merleau-Ponty and Husserl on psychological topics and concepts is an education in itself. M-P was a Marxist. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/merleau-ponty/ http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/fr/merleaup.htm

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-25 Thread steiger2001
Not being able to download the article I would appreciate being sent the password. Thanks! __ Od: CeJ Komu: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Datum: 26.11.2009 03:33 Předmět: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis]Foucault’s Discursive Subject

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-24 Thread CeJ
Hey CB, you might find this article interesting. It's a nice synthesis of 'gestural origins' of language with 'mirror neuron' research. Also, I find it interesting how gesture is so different with the cats I interact with on campus. Although gestures meaning things like 'come here' are

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-24 Thread CeJ
Perhaps my analysis of cat-human communication was botched. Suffice to say, while my hand gestures get immediate attention, cats ignore them. They are looking for tails and ears. One thing that connects across the species is eyes. However, and this is something 'cat people' at least unconsciously

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-24 Thread CeJ
One post-script: Certainly a re-consideration of M-P on language and language acquisition helps one to get a better grasp of both Foucault and Derrida in terms of where they started from, who influenced them, and the concepts they themselves arrived at. I will never forget how the eclectic but

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-23 Thread c b
CB: This is good. This is the best presentation I have seen of Foucault, extracting the rational kernel of Foucault , so to speak. On the letter as pure signifier, it reminds me of symbol. A symbol is using something to represent something that it is not. In the beginning of human society was the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-21 Thread CeJ
I know ultimately the concept goes back to Kant and Hegel, but the discussion here isn't helped much by missing out Brentano, Husserl, Freud, and Lacan (who is the crucial link to Foucault). I don't think Foucault's starting points for conception of the subject are very original, but his views on

[Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject by Blunden

2009-11-17 Thread c b
Andy Blunden September 2005 http://home.mira.net/~andy/works/foucault.htm Foucault’s Discursive Subject Foucault is credited with “deconstruction of the subject,” but in reality what Foucault has given us is a critique of the Cartesian subject, the intuitively-given individual subject deemed the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Foucault’s Discursive Subject

2009-11-17 Thread c b
Andy Blunden September 2005 Foucault’s Discursive Subject (continued) 1. Knowledge The epistemological problem of whether knowledge is entirely enclosed by the paradigm or discourse within which it exists is one that has received ample attention over the past century, and there is no need to