[Marxism-Thaxis] Marx and Engels don't use antagonism that way in the CM

2005-11-13 Thread Charles Brown
WL: The antagonism being lived out during the time of Marx was between the evolution and rise of the industrial system and its bourgeois mode of production versus the landed property relations and its political superstructure called feudalism. ^^^ CB: But this is not the way in which Marx and

[Marxism-Thaxis] Marx and Engels don't use antagonism that way in the CM

2005-11-13 Thread Charles Brown
One way to think of it is that antagonistic contradictions are irreconcilable. One side or the other of the contradiction has to go. Or one side can't gain without the other side losing ( zero sum game is antagonistic contradiction. But like all definitions, this is limited . Charles

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marx and Engels don't use antagonism that way in the CM

2005-11-13 Thread Waistline2
CB: What you quote below doesn't have the word antagonism in it that I find. WL: That is because the antagonism is explained in detail rather than screaming from the roof top antagonism. CB: But the activity of Communists is not with respect to development of the productive forces, but to

[Marxism-Thaxis] Marx and Engels don't use antagonism that way in the CM

2005-11-11 Thread Charles Brown
WL: The antagonism being lived out during the time of Marx was between the evolution and rise of the industrial system and its bourgeois mode of production versus the landed property relations and its political superstructure called feudalism. ^^^ CB: But this is not the way in which Marx and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marx and Engels don't use antagonism that way in the CM

2005-11-11 Thread Waistline2
WL: The antagonism being lived out during the time of Marx was between the evolution and rise of the industrial system and its bourgeois mode of production versus the landed property relations and its political superstructure called feudalism. ^^^ CB: But this is not the way in which Marx

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marx and Engels don't use antagonism that way in the CM

2005-11-11 Thread Waistline2
CB: But this is not the way in which Marx and Engels use antagonism to describe the antagonism being lived out during the time of Marx and Engels. They use antagonism to refer to the irreconcilable conflict or contradiction between antagonistic classes, not, as you say, between the evolution and