Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-26 Thread Steve Gabosch
At 02:42 AM 2/26/2005 -0500, you wrote: At 06:01 PM 2/25/2005 -0800, Steve Gabosch wrote: Yes, that would be an interesting discussion to read. Where does one get SWP internal bulletins from the 1940's? In New York, the best place is Tamiment Library at NYU, where I did a great deal of research

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:29:25 -0800 Steve Gabosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 02:42 AM 2/26/2005 -0500, you wrote: At 06:01 PM 2/25/2005 -0800, Steve Gabosch wrote: BTW, what awful book and who was John Somerville? He was an American philosopher who wrote studies of Soviet philosophy,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-26 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:49:38 -0500 Jim Farmelant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:29:25 -0800 Steve Gabosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 02:42 AM 2/26/2005 -0500, you wrote: At 06:01 PM 2/25/2005 -0800, Steve Gabosch wrote: BTW, what awful book and who

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-26 Thread Ralph Dumain
The Philosophy of Marxism: An Exposition is the book I had in mind. It is often used as a standard textbook. What a piece of crap! But rather typical, esp. of the books that muck around with dialectical logic. (The later Soviet textbooks became a bit shrewder, pretty much avoiding the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-26 Thread Steve Gabosch
I see John Somerville wrote a number of books on Marxism. I don't think Novack ever mentioned him, and I do not remember ever hearing of him elsewhere or running across his work. A superficial scan of the article on line didn't impress me as contributing to any particular ongoing debate

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-26 Thread Ralph Dumain
I've addressed the Somerville question elsewhere. I always assumed he was Cp, judging by the company he kept. But I don't think so; that's why I referred to him as a fellow traveller. I've not visited CSH in Berkeley, which is based on Hal Draper's work, but I would assume it is

[Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-25 Thread Ralph Dumain
I have stumbled onto some long sought material in my files, i.e. my notes from 1991 on debates on dialectics conducted under pseudonyms, featuring William Warde (George Novack) and Marc Loris (Jean Van Heijenoort), with interventions by John G. Wright, J. Weber, George Sanders, Irwin Hyper

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-25 Thread Steve Gabosch
Yes, that would be an interesting discussion to read. Where does one get SWP internal bulletins from the 1940's? I notice, Ralph, the occasional disparaging remark about Engels and the one below about Novack. I think I can make a case that while one may disagree with their views, their

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Novack vs. Van Heijenoort on dialectics, 1943

2005-02-25 Thread Ralph Dumain
At 06:01 PM 2/25/2005 -0800, Steve Gabosch wrote: Yes, that would be an interesting discussion to read. Where does one get SWP internal bulletins from the 1940's? In New York, the best place is Tamiment Library at NYU, where I did a great deal of research in the '90s. Also Prometheus Research