Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fettering

2005-09-15 Thread Victor
CB and WB Dialectics! The principle of self-regulation of production that is basic to the capitalist mode of production militates against the fettering of the development of productive forces. The limitations of the expanding absolute surplus value (lengthening the work day and reducing

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Specter of a Soviet-Style Crisis: Evidences of Fettering of the Productive Forces

2005-09-15 Thread Charles Brown
Emmanuel Todd's comments excerpted here might be said to characterize U.S. domestic industrial decline as property relations fettering development of the material productive forces. The Katrina phenomenon might be a microcosm of the larger U.S. system. The trend in U.S. property relations is to

[Marxism-Thaxis] Fettering

2005-09-15 Thread Charles Brown
An epoch of social revolution was in fact indisputably completing itself world wide and no one disputes that this was the Industrial Social Revolution of which Marx wrote and called for the communists and proletarians to place themselves at the head of the process. CB: How you gonna say

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 23, Issue 13

2005-09-15 Thread A. Mani
Re : Re: Graham Priest: dialectic dialetheic (Ian Hunt) From: Ian Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Graham Priest: dialectic dialetheic Dear Ralph, I wonder what the purpose of your review is? We could surely do without the abuse (Priest and Sayers are 'philistines'

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fettering

2005-09-15 Thread Victor
WL: I reiterate: 1. No capitalist can afford to fetter the development of the forces of production without going down. Marx made the point that in order just to maintain a stable rate of profit capitalist enterprises must at very least conform to the general state of development of the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fettering

2005-09-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 9/15/2005 1:57:04 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CB: How you gonna say with a straight face that the Industrial Revolution was the Industrial Social Revolution, or that Marx treated it as a social revolution ? :) Comment Obviously you are joking. The

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fettering

2005-09-15 Thread Waistline2
1. No capitalist can afford to fetter the development of the forces of production without going down. Marx made the point that in order just to maintain a stable rate of profit capitalist enterprises must at very least conform to the general state of development of the means of production and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Graham Priest: dialectic dialetheic

2005-09-15 Thread Ian Hunt
Dear Ralph, Now I see your point - it was not clear before. (BTW In Contradiction is earlier - the science and society article is based on it but it does spell out more completely his argument). I agree with you that Graham Priest's interest is primarily with logic and ways in which we

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fettering -correction

2005-09-15 Thread Victor
You are assuming of course that we know how or what kinds of productive forces WILL prevail in communist society. If you take your model of the communist mode of production from the late and mostly unlamented People's Democratic Republics and Soviets as well as from the various more

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Graham Priest: dialectic dialetheic

2005-09-15 Thread Ralph Dumain
I am a little puzzled here. See below: At 12:11 PM 9/16/2005 +1000, Ian Hunt wrote: Dear Ralph, Now I see your point - it was not clear before. (BTW In Contradiction is earlier - the science and society article is based on it but it does spell out more completely his argument). I agree with