CB: The computer revolution might become a fettering of productive forces
that generates social revolution, if the runaway plants made possible by
computers fetters the development of productive on the U.S. territory to the
point that the U.S. labor aristocracy bolts its collaboration with the
CB: Relations of production or property relations are class relations. The
organization of material productive forces, including the organization of
people on the shop floor, the technical division of labor, is not class
relations. The capitalist owner is not even there overseeing the shopfloor
CB: In other words, the bourgeoisie doesn't fetter the development of the
material productive forces outside of the U.S.national territory where it
runs the plants away to. It buildsup the productive forces in Mexico, Korea,
and other places to which industrial production has been moved. It has
WL: Interesting proposition. What you end up stating and illustrating is
that
relations of production or property relations are the laws defining property
CB: What kind of laws are you speaking of here ?
and peoples relationship to property in the process of production. You
define
History is the progressive accumulation of productive forces (Engels). What
this means is that history is the accumulation of productive forces and what
constitutes its progressiveness is its spontaneous qualitative development
and expansion. This qualitative development has at its center the
CB: The plants are run away overseas more to run them away from the working
class in the U.S.I said the plants are moved away from the owners as a
byproduct as in indirect result, of running them away from the U.S.
workers.
WL: I call this national chauvinism. I will not seriously engage this
V: Restriction itself is either a function of recognized need
(self-restriction: what Hegel and Marx regard as the real nature of freedom)
or of coercion by others to realize their needs in contradistinction from
one's own. Of course the subject of restriction is here is that of human
1. Correspondence vs coherence theories of truth (Charles Brown)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:25:38 -0400
From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] Correspondence vs coherence theories of
truth
Ralph D:. In any case, I favor correspondence over coherence theories of
History is the progressive accumulation of productive forces (Engels). What
this means is that history is the accumulation of productive forces and what
constitutes its progressiveness is its spontaneous qualitative development
and expansion. This qualitative development has at its center the
