Class antagonism in The Manifesto/exposition Waistline2 at aol.com
The distinguishing feature of communism is not the abolition of property
generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property. But modern bourgeois
private
property is the final and most complete
WL: The antagonism being lived out during the time of Marx was between the
evolution and rise of the industrial system and its bourgeois mode of
production versus the landed property relations and its political
superstructure called feudalism.
^^^
CB: But this is not the way in which Marx and
WL: This is not true because bourgeois property does not arise on the basis
of
private property but rather on the basis of a certain stage in the
development
of the productive forces - commodity production, that compels a change in
the
form of private property. Private property exists before
WL: The antagonism being lived out during the time of Marx was between the
evolution and rise of the industrial system and its bourgeois mode of
production
versus the landed property relations and its political superstructure called
feudalism.
^^^ CB: But this is not the way in which Marx
CB: Commodithy production does not arise, as you say, on the basis of a
certain stage in the development of the productive forces.
WL: Really.
This is what I wrote and you quote:
bourgeois property does not arise on the basis of private property but
rather on the basis of a certain stage in
CB: But this is not the way in which Marx and Engels use antagonism to
describe the antagonism being lived out during the time of Marx and Engels.
They use antagonism to refer to the irreconcilable conflict or
contradiction between antagonistic classes, not, as you say, between the
evolution and
