Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Nash: A Beautiful Mind
At 03/03/02 15:12 -0500, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/02 02:31PM It should be noted that game theory that the Analytic Marxists, especially the economist John Roemer and the social scientist Jon Elster have attempted to use game theory for the purpose of elucidating certain Marxian concepts. For example, Roemer has sought to develop a theory of exploitation based on game theoretic concepts that would replace Marx's labor theory of value. Analytic Marxists have attempted to use game theory for understanding how and under what conditions class solidarity and class consciousness can develop. Even those Marxists of a more orthodox inclination (than the Analytic Marxists) have found game theory to be useful for such things as elucidating Marx's law of falling profit rates. Jim F. ^^ Charles: Game theory sounds like a heuristic. If I understand the term correctly, it would certainly better be treated as a heuristic. I think the paradox of game theory is that it started off as a highly reductionist model. But as soon as it starts to get elaborated, other connections have to be taken into account. Nash's insight into economic came from giving a mathematical analysis to the problem of how four young male friends could all get a girl friend. In essence mathematical models that are at least little bit sensitive have to address the reality that economic activity is a complex social activity, whatever the private ownership of the means of production. It also appears from the remark I quoted, that he has a sense of the changing nature of reality, and also its layered complex structure, which is in essence a dialectical and materialist approach. His weakness and his strength was that instead of a flexible intelligence about emotional human interaction, he imposed simplistic rules which alienated him from the rest of the human capital. around him, and perpetuated his isolation. Chris Burford ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Nash: A Beautiful Mind
On Sun, 03 Mar 2002 17:58:06 + Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has any one seen any discussion around this film that might illuminate his attitude of mind here, or has anyone read the biography by Sylvia Nasar? I doubt very much that there was any conscious influence of marxism - rather the reverse - but his Nobel Prize appears to have been of a type that that was a forerunner of complexity theory - seeing more complicated patterns than common sense at first perceives, in the interaction of animals, birds, homo economicus. (In fact his contribution undermined the original crudities of purely selfish game theory in economics.) It should be noted that game theory that the Analytic Marxists, especially the economist John Roemer and the social scientist Jon Elster have attempted to use game theory for the purpose of elucidating certain Marxian concepts. For example, Roemer has sought to develop a theory of exploitation based on game theoretic concepts that would replace Marx's labor theory of value. Analytic Marxists have attempted to use game theory for understanding how and under what conditions class solidarity and class consciousness can develop. Even those Marxists of a more orthodox inclination (than the Analytic Marxists) have found game theory to be useful for such things as elucidating Marx's law of falling profit rates. Jim F. The idea of a scarcely visible crystalline architecture to the universe, and also of dramatic changes if we can only glimse it has something in common with marxism, and if you agree with the marxist analysis, the actual structure of the universe. It is also possibly consistent with Roy Bhaskar's theory of layering. The vulnerability of human beings to schizophrenic breakdowns may be linked among other things to an openness to these mysteries, which can also lead the individual to have a shaky hold on conventional social reality. Chris Burford London ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/; ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Nash: A Beautiful Mind
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/02 02:31PM It should be noted that game theory that the Analytic Marxists, especially the economist John Roemer and the social scientist Jon Elster have attempted to use game theory for the purpose of elucidating certain Marxian concepts. For example, Roemer has sought to develop a theory of exploitation based on game theoretic concepts that would replace Marx's labor theory of value. Analytic Marxists have attempted to use game theory for understanding how and under what conditions class solidarity and class consciousness can develop. Even those Marxists of a more orthodox inclination (than the Analytic Marxists) have found game theory to be useful for such things as elucidating Marx's law of falling profit rates. Jim F. ^^ Charles: Game theory sounds like a heuristic. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
