ases just evacuate the real force of your
arguments.
Nothing personal, Charles. I like what you have to say about the War.
But words matter, and it is important to get the argument right.
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sed his
daughters as atheists? Christianity is all but dead in Britain now. Who
is responsible for the genocide against the Christians?
Genocide means genocide, and cultural assimilation means cultural
assimilation. That's why we have two distinctive terms. If you mean that
assimilation is ta
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speculative essays were plumped up out of all proportion to their real
achievements.
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bilises a mass,
petit bourgeois movement to liquidate working class organisations. No
wonder he sees fascism at work in the House of Congress, and no doubt in
the AFL-CIO too.
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Victorian England? The welfare state has made the old
extended family network redundant. Should we abolish welfare to bring it
back?
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m Nasser
to Gerry Adams as 'fascists'. The ideological presuppositions of the
West's 'humanitarian' imperialism are that people outside of the West
are all incapable of governing themselves, and uncivilised.
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d of historical
specificity - looking at things as they are now, rather than trying to
impose a template derived from past experiences onto the present.
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t to
sue the Marx Brothers for calling their film 'A Night In Casablanca'
after Warner's Casablanca: 'Tell them we'll sue them for calling
themselves "brothers"'.
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Freedland (Guardian columnist) and Mark Seddon (Editor of
Tribune and member of Labour Party NEC)
vs
Mick Hume (Editor of LM magazine) and Edward Pearce (Scotsman
columnist).
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er the safe protection of
the Home Secretary and his police officers. They are the barbarians we
are waiting for.
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against the White Wolves here is led by Labour's Home
Secretary Jack Straw, Police Commissioner Paul Condon and his undercover
agent, Commander John Grieve.
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rom within. It is not because the
working class is well-organised that the fascists have no support. On
the contrary, it is because the working class is largely unorganised
that the fascist parties are of no use to the ruling classes.
I know Hugh does not believe me about this, but he should visit. His
view of what happens in England seems to be drawn from the seventies.
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he cover of fighting 'fascism'. In this case the real
threat to the working class comes from those who pose as 'anti-fascists'
- Jack Straw, Paul Condon, John Grieve.
But they needn't worry when they have willing apologists like Bob and
Hugh, the coppers' narks.
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27;. That is the natural
conclusion of the Weberian revision of Marxism that Andy supports - the
displacement of historical materialism by cultural determinism.
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not ashamed of earning a living. And you are right, I
write what I believe. But it is you who have deviated from a Marxist
analysis in favour of a popular front with Blair.
>PPS...Jim, Um even if this incident were to be proven to be a "lone ranger"
>incident you are wrong.
That's what's called backing all the horses.
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In message <004f01be96b1$df9def80$7ae5a3c3@malecki>, Bob Malecki
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Empirical bullshit Jim.
Yeah, sorry about that, I didn't mean to talk about what is really
happening, when it is so much more revolutionary to substitute what one
thinks ought to b
Yes, this is still going ahead. Maybe I'll see you there, Chris.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris
Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Perhaps Jim Heartfield can confirm that the arrangements are still on for
>Tuesday evening for the debate on Kosovo.
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>List mem
and ideological questions - apart from
the fact that more LM writers had contributed to the Times than to the
Guardian. Well should Andy Beckett feel jealous about that.
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f taking on. He underestimated the ability of the western media
to criminalise and demonise whole peoples and their political leaders.
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story; and under resources,
links to the best alternative information on NATO's war.
Visit the documentary now at:
http://www.informinc.co.uk/LM/documentary/kosovo.html
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bs are really bombing themselves!
Perhaps in the war crimes court there will soon be a place for
journalists and PR firms who with their inflammatory reporting and
fraudulent actions cause wars to begin.
THE END
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ility. The Kosovars are not a people, Kosovo is not a nation. The
demand was artificially inflated as a means to break up Yugoslavia. The
KLA are revealed as parasitic upon Nato sponsorship.
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article on the Bosnian model for Kosovo in the
new issue of New Left Review.
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organisationally too late cost her her own life, as the SPD set the
Freikorps on her revolutionary group. Brecht was not wrong to sing her
praises in not one but two elegies.
The book Accumulation of Capital was flawed, but to her credit she
trained the Marxist who best corrected her, Paul M
The German Revolution, an account of
the creation (and eventual 'subordination' to Leninism) of the Spartacus
League.
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d Grossmann's reassertion
of the historical limits of capital at a time when most people were
reconciled to the eternal life of capital, or at best saw Capitalism's
problems as the subjective disruption of the labour movement.
Oh, and what's the URL for the social history websit
ke control.
>
>But this thread may already have drifted far from Mattick's
>
>Living Marxism and New Essays 1934-1943. Maybe only Jim H knows.
Indeed there is a world of difference. But what is in common is that
Mattick was concerned to liberate society's productive forces from the
restraints that were put upon them in his day: falling profitability and
slump. I am concerned to do the same for the restraints on human
progress in my day: a culture of lowered expectations and restraint.
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could only come from the black and
unemployed, and the third world.
We thought this was false. In truth the organised working class was not
a useful support for capitalism but the victims of the capitalist
offensive in the eighties. Far from it being the case that the
aristocracy of labour was mo
et to the
>heart of the Provos petty bourgeois politics--notwithstanding
>your dressing it up in fancy rhetoric.
>
>Yes! There is, as the above remarks of yours might suggest, an
>inherent limiting character to the politics of the Provos. It is
>this inherent limitation that means they are incapable of actively
>participating in the class struggle of the Irish people for
>national self-determination --a communitarian workers' republic.
>
>
>
>Warm regards
>George Pennefather
>
>Be free to check out our Communist Think-Tank Website:
>http://homepage.tinet.ie/~beprepared
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rified in
the division of society between those for whom progress must be
restricted to the narrow confines of capital accumulation, and those for
whom that barrier is unacceptable.
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afat).
>>
>>The only thing for those in the Imperialist countries is to support
>>the right of nations to Self-determination whatever wing happens to
>>be in the assendency and to try to weaken imperialism from the heart
>>of the beast and hence give greater room to those revolutionsry
>>forces in the national liberation movement to make greater advances.
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>>Regards,
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>>John.
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ly welcoming the
emergence of a modern Irish economy. O'Hearn has returned to a critical
examination of the subordination of the Irish economy to international
capital. In a country where the foreign share of fixed capital
investment rose from about 60 per cent in 1988 to 75-80 per cent in the
1990s (p.70), this is a well-made point. O'Hearn's highlighting of the
problem is the first step to redressing it.
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us but also, independently of us and even of Hegel, by a German worker,
>>Joseph Dietzgen."
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>>End of 5th paragraph, Section IV
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>>Chris Burford
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James
Farmelant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>A question for Andy, Jim Heartfield and anyone else interested:
>I am in agreement with both of you that dialectical materialism
>is an ideology which in many respects is contradictory with
>M
reliability.
My apologies, George, for misquoting you. Sorry I did not reply sooner.
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although they
>may not know where to turn.
>
>Evolutionary (punctuated equilibrium), geological and astronomical
>phenomena seem to me to unfold in a dialectical way and if we can
>understand such things dialectically, why should we hold back, whether
>or not the giants from whose shoulders we gain a wider perspective
>recognised it themselves?
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ith which I don't agree.
Cheers Rob, and thanks for the plug.
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t did you think of them of the programmes?
They were pretty good. The demolition job on Heidegger was well
deserved. They still tended to see his philosophy as somehow distinct
from his Nazism, though they did emphasise the correlation between his
peasant lifestyle and reaction.
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herent contradictions of capitalism and imperialism which are the
>key to revolution.
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ount. The "problem" here is to be found in the
>nature of capitalism, not the analysis itself. The latter historical
>approach explains exploitation as a class relationship, eg:
>
>"Now that we have considered the forcible creation of a class of
>outlawed proletarians,
ral purpose is simply a restatement of the problem. The fact that they
have to pillory gymslip mums to do it is pathetic.
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, r.i.p
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>Nicely put, but who is this Nestor geezer?
>
>Russ
Is it Nestor Gorojovsky, Argentine Marxist, and long-time subscriber? He
wrote a really excellent account of the left in the Argentine national
move
contrasts the ideals of 'community' with
the reality. Tomorrow night's episode is about education.
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gt;
>Having relied on the blacks to defeat the Boers, the British compromised in
>the political settlement and left the question of enlarging the franchise
>until after self rule was re-established for the Boer Republics.
>
>What hypocrisy.
>
>Chris Burford
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>London
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many people have to be slaughtered before it occurs to Chris that
there might be a problem with the United Nations?
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errida- -briefly appear in the text, but
>Althusser, insulated by his self- preoccupation and misery, reveals little
>about them or the intellectual ferment of his times. A disturbing,
>demanding memoir that illustrates the alliance of genius and madness, the
>delusive clarity of which the insane are capable, and the enormous
>influence they can acquire over the thinking of others. -- Copyright ©1993,
>Kirkus
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>Chicago Tribune: Spellbinding.
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>Voice Literary Supplement: Harrowing.
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militant politics were an anathema to a party
that had become a bulwark of capitalist stability.
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y the relative acquiescence of the international working class
has given the ruling elites more room to manoeuvre.
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uld get out of bed to sustain that brain-dead collection
of pensioners who have been decisively rubbished by the working class.
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ncluding most
>recently the cold blooded murder of a synidacalist trade union
>leader at his home.
>Among other things.
No mention here of the disco arson attack that you were telling us about
before, Bob. Are you still attributing that to the Nazis?
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s getting started now, and the
>horror felt by Livingstone himself at being taken seriously when he pays
>lip-service to socialism, that the intervention of revolutionary Marxists
>in this campaign will not be easy. In other words, a real and exciting
>challenge lies ahead.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Hugh
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tal. Fixed capital is not a commodity form.
George is making a mistake. A factory is a commodity that can be bought
or sold, just as it can be used in the hands of its owner. Factories are
bought and sold all the time.
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t;simply placing subscribe in the body of the message at the following address:
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>George is making a mistake. A factory is a commodity that can be bought
>or sold, just as it can be used in the hands of its owner. Factories are
>bought and sold all the t
e-value. Functional analysis here is
hostile to Marx's method.
So when George says
> I
>am right
>and Marx wrong.
I take that to mean that he and Marx are talking at cross purposes
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erson.
Yes, but Trevor Phillips was more of a New Labour hack than Frank
Dobson, pouring vitriol on Livingstone from a great height, and still
cursing and spitting at the point that everyone else was being
'inclusive'. Peter Mandelson was best man to the oleaginous Mr Phillips.
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ubjective intentions of the imperialists that makes
imperialism, it is the objective condition of the subordination of small
states to 'mature economies'.
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ht to tour India in 1941
pleading with Congress supporters not to strike against the British
Crown?
And what about the engineering apprentices and Bevin boys who went on
strike in Britain during the war. Was the Communist Party right to
denounce them as fascist agents, and supply their leaders' names for
employers blacklists?
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be
>conceived and analysed as a dialectical unity whereby the essence
>of the parts are determined by the essence of the whole --internal
> relations as opposed to external relations.
>
>
>Warm regards
>George Pennefather
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7;s do not amount to a contribution
>to the debate.
George, the only thing that was abstract about my comment was the
assumption on my part that, as someone who purports to an interest in
these matters, you might have shown some passing familiarity with the
facts. But I guess you must be taug
matters, you might have shown some passing familiarity with the
facts. But I guess you must be taught your ABC about the empirical
conditions as you must about dialectics.
By all means reply when you have an informed contribution to make.
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.
George, the only thing that was abstract about my comment was the
assumption on my part that, as someone who purports to an interest in
these matters, you might have shown some passing familiarity with the
facts. But I guess you must be taught your ABC about the empirical
conditions as you must about dialectics.
By all means reply when you have an informed contribution to make.
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reversal of democratic gains, principally consequent on the
subordination of small nations to the mature powers - like Sierra Leone.
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