Re: M-TH: Re: hitting the nail on the ehad?

1999-04-15 Thread Jim heartfield
ases just evacuate the real force of your arguments. Nothing personal, Charles. I like what you have to say about the War. But words matter, and it is important to get the argument right. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: definitions of genocide

1999-04-16 Thread Jim heartfield
sed his daughters as atheists? Christianity is all but dead in Britain now. Who is responsible for the genocide against the Christians? Genocide means genocide, and cultural assimilation means cultural assimilation. That's why we have two distinctive terms. If you mean that assimilation is ta

Re: M-TH: Re: Frankfurters on crisis

1999-04-16 Thread Jim heartfield
ttle speculative essays were plumped up out of all proportion to their real achievements. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: hitting the nail on the ehad?

1999-04-16 Thread Jim heartfield
bilises a mass, petit bourgeois movement to liquidate working class organisations. No wonder he sees fascism at work in the House of Congress, and no doubt in the AFL-CIO too. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: definitions of genocide

1999-04-17 Thread Jim heartfield
Victorian England? The welfare state has made the old extended family network redundant. Should we abolish welfare to bring it back? -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: social fascist formations

1999-04-17 Thread Jim heartfield
m Nasser to Gerry Adams as 'fascists'. The ideological presuppositions of the West's 'humanitarian' imperialism are that people outside of the West are all incapable of governing themselves, and uncivilised. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: real fascism

1999-04-20 Thread Jim heartfield
d of historical specificity - looking at things as they are now, rather than trying to impose a template derived from past experiences onto the present. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

SV: M-TH: A Craven Capitulation to Imperialism on the Balkans

1999-04-22 Thread Jim heartfield
t to sue the Marx Brothers for calling their film 'A Night In Casablanca' after Warner's Casablanca: 'Tell them we'll sue them for calling themselves "brothers"'. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: Kosovo debate

1999-04-27 Thread Jim heartfield
Freedland (Guardian columnist) and Mark Seddon (Editor of Tribune and member of Labour Party NEC) vs Mick Hume (Editor of LM magazine) and Edward Pearce (Scotsman columnist). -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: Times Article

1999-04-30 Thread Jim heartfield
er the safe protection of the Home Secretary and his police officers. They are the barbarians we are waiting for. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Jim's times letter on fascism...

1999-05-01 Thread Jim heartfield
against the White Wolves here is led by Labour's Home Secretary Jack Straw, Police Commissioner Paul Condon and his undercover agent, Commander John Grieve. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: Jim's times letter on fascism...

1999-05-01 Thread Jim heartfield
rom within. It is not because the working class is well-organised that the fascists have no support. On the contrary, it is because the working class is largely unorganised that the fascist parties are of no use to the ruling classes. I know Hugh does not believe me about this, but he should visit. His view of what happens in England seems to be drawn from the seventies. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: Re: Jim's times article on police repression

1999-05-03 Thread Jim heartfield
he cover of fighting 'fascism'. In this case the real threat to the working class comes from those who pose as 'anti-fascists' - Jack Straw, Paul Condon, John Grieve. But they needn't worry when they have willing apologists like Bob and Hugh, the coppers' narks. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: Jim's Times article on fascism...

1999-05-03 Thread Jim heartfield
27;. That is the natural conclusion of the Weberian revision of Marxism that Andy supports - the displacement of historical materialism by cultural determinism. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Jim and the "lone Ranger"!

1999-05-04 Thread Jim heartfield
not ashamed of earning a living. And you are right, I write what I believe. But it is you who have deviated from a Marxist analysis in favour of a popular front with Blair. >PPS...Jim, Um even if this incident were to be proven to be a "lone ranger" >incident you are wrong. That's what's called backing all the horses. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: SV: M-TH: Jim and the "lone Ranger"!

1999-05-05 Thread Jim heartfield
In message <004f01be96b1$df9def80$7ae5a3c3@malecki>, Bob Malecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Empirical bullshit Jim. Yeah, sorry about that, I didn't mean to talk about what is really happening, when it is so much more revolutionary to substitute what one thinks ought to b

Re: M-TH: Tribune on the War

1999-05-10 Thread Jim heartfield
Yes, this is still going ahead. Maybe I'll see you there, Chris. In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Perhaps Jim Heartfield can confirm that the arrangements are still on for >Tuesday evening for the debate on Kosovo. > >List mem

Re: M-TH: Guardian attack on LM

1999-05-15 Thread Jim heartfield
and ideological questions - apart from the fact that more LM writers had contributed to the Times than to the Guardian. Well should Andy Beckett feel jealous about that. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Imperialism and Serbia

1999-05-16 Thread Jim heartfield
f taking on. He underestimated the ability of the western media to criminalise and demonise whole peoples and their political leaders. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: LM Online launches special documentary on Kosovo

1999-05-27 Thread Jim heartfield
story; and under resources, links to the best alternative information on NATO's war. Visit the documentary now at: http://www.informinc.co.uk/LM/documentary/kosovo.html -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: PR firm behind 'genocide'

1999-05-27 Thread Jim heartfield
bs are really bombing themselves! Perhaps in the war crimes court there will soon be a place for journalists and PR firms who with their inflammatory reporting and fraudulent actions cause wars to begin. THE END -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: NATO wins

1999-06-12 Thread Jim heartfield
ility. The Kosovars are not a people, Kosovo is not a nation. The demand was artificially inflated as a means to break up Yugoslavia. The KLA are revealed as parasitic upon Nato sponsorship. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Give me the child when he is seven ...

1999-07-06 Thread Jim heartfield
article on the Bosnian model for Kosovo in the new issue of New Left Review. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: Luxemburg v Lenin?

1999-07-21 Thread Jim heartfield
organisationally too late cost her her own life, as the SPD set the Freikorps on her revolutionary group. Brecht was not wrong to sing her praises in not one but two elegies. The book Accumulation of Capital was flawed, but to her credit she trained the Marxist who best corrected her, Paul M

Re: M-TH: Re: Luxemburg v Lenin?

1999-07-23 Thread Jim heartfield
The German Revolution, an account of the creation (and eventual 'subordination' to Leninism) of the Spartacus League. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Living Marxism and New Essays

1999-07-24 Thread Jim heartfield
d Grossmann's reassertion of the historical limits of capital at a time when most people were reconciled to the eternal life of capital, or at best saw Capitalism's problems as the subjective disruption of the labour movement. Oh, and what's the URL for the social history websit

Re: M-TH: Living Marxism and New Essays

1999-07-25 Thread Jim heartfield
ke control. > >But this thread may already have drifted far from Mattick's > >Living Marxism and New Essays 1934-1943. Maybe only Jim H knows. Indeed there is a world of difference. But what is in common is that Mattick was concerned to liberate society's productive forces from the restraints that were put upon them in his day: falling profitability and slump. I am concerned to do the same for the restraints on human progress in my day: a culture of lowered expectations and restraint. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: Living Marxism and over-accumulation

1999-07-30 Thread Jim heartfield
could only come from the black and unemployed, and the third world. We thought this was false. In truth the organised working class was not a useful support for capitalism but the victims of the capitalist offensive in the eighties. Far from it being the case that the aristocracy of labour was mo

Re: M-TH: Fw: Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-02 Thread Jim heartfield
et to the >heart of  the Provos  petty bourgeois politics--notwithstanding >your dressing it up in fancy rhetoric. >  >Yes! There is, as the above remarks of yours might suggest, an >inherent limiting character to the politics of the Provos. It is >this inherent limitation that means they are incapable of actively >participating in the class struggle of the Irish people for >national self-determination --a communitarian workers' republic. > >  > >Warm regards >George Pennefather >  >Be free to check out our Communist Think-Tank Website: >http://homepage.tinet.ie/~beprepared -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-03 Thread Jim heartfield
rified in the division of society between those for whom progress must be restricted to the narrow confines of capital accumulation, and those for whom that barrier is unacceptable. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-04 Thread Jim heartfield
afat). >> >>The only thing for those in the Imperialist countries is to support >>the right of nations to Self-determination whatever wing happens to >>be in the assendency and to try to weaken imperialism from the heart >>of the beast and hence give greater room to those revolutionsry >>forces in the national liberation movement to make greater advances. >> >>Regards, >> >>John. >> >> >> --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- > > > > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: SV: M-TH: Re: M-TH Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-05 Thread Jim heartfield
ly welcoming the emergence of a modern Irish economy. O'Hearn has returned to a critical examination of the subordination of the Irish economy to international capital. In a country where the foreign share of fixed capital investment rose from about 60 per cent in 1988 to 75-80 per cent in the 1990s (p.70), this is a well-made point. O'Hearn's highlighting of the problem is the first step to redressing it. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: dialectical materialism

1999-08-06 Thread Jim heartfield
us but also, independently of us and even of Hegel, by a German worker, >>Joseph Dietzgen." >> >>End of 5th paragraph, Section IV >> >> >>Chris Burford >> >>London >> >> >> >> --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- >> > > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: dialectical materialism

1999-08-06 Thread Jim heartfield
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Farmelant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >A question for Andy, Jim Heartfield and anyone else interested: >I am in agreement with both of you that dialectical materialism >is an ideology which in many respects is contradictory with >M

Re: M-TH: Republican Movement & GFA

1999-08-07 Thread Jim heartfield
reliability. My apologies, George, for misquoting you. Sorry I did not reply sooner. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: dialectical materialism/activist materialism

1999-08-08 Thread Jim heartfield
although they >may not know where to turn. > >Evolutionary (punctuated equilibrium), geological and astronomical >phenomena seem to me to unfold in a dialectical way and if we can >understand such things dialectically, why should we hold back, whether >or not the giants from whose shoulders we gain a wider perspective >recognised it themselves? -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: LM

1999-08-11 Thread Jim heartfield
ith which I don't agree. Cheers Rob, and thanks for the plug. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Sartre

1999-08-12 Thread Jim heartfield
t did you think of them of the programmes? They were pretty good. The demolition job on Heidegger was well deserved. They still tended to see his philosophy as somehow distinct from his Nazism, though they did emphasise the correlation between his peasant lifestyle and reaction. -- Jim heartfie

Re: M-TH: A plea

1999-09-01 Thread Jim heartfield
herent contradictions of capitalism and imperialism which are the >key to revolution. > >John Walker > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: Super exploitation and relative monopoly

1999-09-05 Thread Jim heartfield
ount. The "problem" here is to be found in the >nature of capitalism, not the analysis itself. The latter historical >approach explains exploitation as a class relationship, eg: > >"Now that we have considered the forcible creation of a class of >outlawed proletarians,

M-TH: Blair's moral purpose

1999-09-09 Thread Jim heartfield
ral purpose is simply a restatement of the problem. The fact that they have to pillory gymslip mums to do it is pathetic. -- James Heartfield -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Fwd: Re: Fwd: jhurd_dsa-doc: The Dalai Lama on Marxism (fwd)

1999-09-20 Thread Jim heartfield
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, r.i.p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >Nicely put, but who is this Nestor geezer? > >Russ Is it Nestor Gorojovsky, Argentine Marxist, and long-time subscriber? He wrote a really excellent account of the left in the Argentine national move

M-TH: Tony's People

1999-09-22 Thread Jim heartfield
contrasts the ideals of 'community' with the reality. Tomorrow night's episode is about education. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: The Boer War

1999-10-14 Thread Jim heartfield
gt; >Having relied on the blacks to defeat the Boers, the British compromised in >the political settlement and left the question of enlarging the franchise >until after self rule was re-established for the Boer Republics. > >What hypocrisy. > >Chris Burford > >London > > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: UN moves into Sierra Leone

1999-10-23 Thread Jim heartfield
many people have to be slaughtered before it occurs to Chris that there might be a problem with the United Nations? -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: Hélène's murderer

1999-10-24 Thread Jim heartfield
errida- -briefly appear in the text, but >Althusser, insulated by his self- preoccupation and misery, reveals little >about them or the intellectual ferment of his times. A disturbing, >demanding memoir that illustrates the alliance of genius and madness, the >delusive clarity of which the insane are capable, and the enormous >influence they can acquire over the thinking of others. -- Copyright ©1993, >Kirkus > >Chicago Tribune: Spellbinding. > >Voice Literary Supplement: Harrowing. > > > > > > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

M-TH: Up Against the Wall, Althusser

1999-10-25 Thread Jim heartfield
militant politics were an anathema to a party that had become a bulwark of capitalist stability. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: SV: M-TH: Nation

1999-12-30 Thread Jim heartfield
y the relative acquiescence of the international working class has given the ruling elites more room to manoeuvre. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: SV: Re: M-TH: SV: SUPPORT THE CLASS STRUGGLE IN FINLAND!

1999-12-30 Thread Jim heartfield
uld get out of bed to sustain that brain-dead collection of pensioners who have been decisively rubbished by the working class. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: the fascist stuff

1999-12-30 Thread Jim heartfield
ncluding most >recently the cold blooded murder of a synidacalist trade union >leader at his home. >Among other things. No mention here of the disco arson attack that you were telling us about before, Bob. Are you still attributing that to the Nazis? -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Livingstone stands in London

2000-03-11 Thread Jim heartfield
s getting started now, and the >horror felt by Livingstone himself at being taken seriously when he pays >lip-service to socialism, that the intervention of revolutionary Marxists >in this campaign will not be easy. In other words, a real and exciting >challenge lies ahead. > >Cheers, > >Hugh > > > > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- > > > > > --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: Capital is wrong

2000-03-11 Thread Jim heartfield
tal. Fixed capital is not a commodity form. George is making a mistake. A factory is a commodity that can be bought or sold, just as it can be used in the hands of its owner. Factories are bought and sold all the time. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: Capital is wrong

2000-03-12 Thread Jim heartfield
t;simply placing subscribe in the body of the message at the following address: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >George is making a mistake. A factory is a commodity that can be bought >or sold, just as it can be used in the hands of its owner. Factories are >bought and sold all the t

Re: M-TH: Re: Capital is wrong

2000-03-13 Thread Jim heartfield
e-value. Functional analysis here is hostile to Marx's method. So when George says > I >am right >and Marx wrong. I take that to mean that he and Marx are talking at cross purposes -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: Re: UK Far Left Blows Its Chance in London

2000-05-08 Thread Jim heartfield
erson. Yes, but Trevor Phillips was more of a New Labour hack than Frank Dobson, pouring vitriol on Livingstone from a great height, and still cursing and spitting at the point that everyone else was being 'inclusive'. Peter Mandelson was best man to the oleaginous Mr Phillips. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: British intervention in Sierra Leone

2000-05-10 Thread Jim heartfield
ubjective intentions of the imperialists that makes imperialism, it is the objective condition of the subordination of small states to 'mature economies'. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: British intervention in Sierra Leone

2000-05-12 Thread Jim heartfield
ht to tour India in 1941 pleading with Congress supporters not to strike against the British Crown? And what about the engineering apprentices and Bevin boys who went on strike in Britain during the war. Was the Communist Party right to denounce them as fascist agents, and supply their leaders' names for employers blacklists? -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: British intervention in Sierra Leone

2000-05-14 Thread Jim heartfield
be >conceived and analysed as a dialectical unity whereby the essence >of the parts are determined by the essence of the whole --internal > relations as opposed to external relations. >  >  >Warm regards >George Pennefather -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: British intervention in Sierra Leone

2000-05-15 Thread Jim heartfield
7;s do not amount to a contribution >to the debate. George, the only thing that was abstract about my comment was the assumption on my part that, as someone who purports to an interest in these matters, you might have shown some passing familiarity with the facts. But I guess you must be taug

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2000-05-15 Thread Jim heartfield
matters, you might have shown some passing familiarity with the facts. But I guess you must be taught your ABC about the empirical conditions as you must about dialectics. By all means reply when you have an informed contribution to make. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

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2000-05-15 Thread Jim heartfield
. George, the only thing that was abstract about my comment was the assumption on my part that, as someone who purports to an interest in these matters, you might have shown some passing familiarity with the facts. But I guess you must be taught your ABC about the empirical conditions as you must about dialectics. By all means reply when you have an informed contribution to make. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: M-TH: British intervention in Sierra Leone

2000-05-14 Thread Jim heartfield
reversal of democratic gains, principally consequent on the subordination of small nations to the mature powers - like Sierra Leone. -- Jim heartfield --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---