Re: [Marxism] Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts...

2017-01-11 Thread Mark Lause via Marxism
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. . . but there's not really so much of a risk because the CIA did not make
up the story . . . that's the cleverness of this.  They're just passing it
along.  "We heard this from an unnamed Republican source who got it from a
British ex-spy that they hired who got it from . . . well, who knows?"
They're not saying that they've verified it.  They're just passing it along
. . . as a security concern.

And the media's eating it up with a spoon. A perfect non-news story
presented in a way that makes no sense.  It's like WMDs or the Clinton
emails.  Could be something that might mean something . . . but then,
again.  Now let's hear what Paid Flunky No. 1 says he feels about it, and
we'll give equal time to Paid Flunky No. 2.  Then, "Here's the results of a
pointless unscientific survey we just did to see how you feel about
about."  .

ML
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Re: [Marxism] Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts...

2017-01-11 Thread Ken Hiebert via Marxism
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Louis Proyect said:
Trump never should have messed with the CIA. These guys are past masters 
of dirty tricks.

Ken Hiebert replies:
Whatever differences Trump has with the CIA, he is basically in harmony with 
their goal of manifesting US power around the world.  But let's imagine that he 
actually intended to curb the CIA.  In that instance, he would have no choice 
but to "mess with the CIA."
In which case, we would need to go beyond the observation that the CIA can do 
him much harm and think of how we might take advantage of such a dispute to 
further our own political goals re the CIA.

I cannot claim to know who is lying and who is truthful in this dispute.  I do 
think the CIA would be taking a big risk if it's just making up this story.  
Sooner or later, the truth will out.
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