Re: [Marxism] The Paris Commune

2015-06-27 Thread Dayne Goodwin via Marxism
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I don't agree with Professor Marliere's counterposing of 'the good
artistic, internationalist, libertarian communism' of the commune vs.
the  'harshly authoritarian and militaristic centralism' supposedly
advocated by Marx and Lenin.

Back in September 1870 Marx, on behalf of the First International, had
advised that it would be folly to attempt a workers insurrection in
Paris against the French government.  The revolutionary and socialist
minded Parisian workers were mainly followers of Proudhonist ideas of
reformist and utopian socialism.  Even if they had had the level of
political understanding and organization necessary to lead an
effective revolutionary struggle, Marx could see that the
international balance of forces dictated their defeat.

The socialist-minded workers of Paris let a whole six months go by
without organizing and initiating serious ongoing revolutionary
struggle.  With de facto control of Paris they could have taken
control of the national bank and other central levers of power.  They
could have taken the political initiative to militarily attack the
Thiers government instead of waiting to be attacked.

In March 1871 when workers, led by the central committee of the
National Guard, did resist the French government's initial attempts to
regain control of Paris and initiated the struggle known as the Paris
Commune, Marx gave their struggle his full support.  Marx did note
afterward that their decision to transfer revolutionary leadership
from the central committee of the National Guard to the elected
'artistic, internationalist, libertarian' loose commune of local
representatives was a self-defeating political step backward.  To
illustrate by continuing my exaggeration, i think we of the 60s
generation can understand the change in leadership as something like
the difference between the political leftist activists and the
counterculture hippie communalists.

I read John Merriman's new book on the commune, Massacre: The Life and
Death of the Paris Commune of 1871. I don't recommend it to socialists
who already know about the commune.   It is practically apolitical,
rubbing your face in the blood and gore of the government's repression
and re-conquest of Paris - while making sure to play up every bloody
response from the commune side.  I am not taking issue with Marliere's
evaluation of that book - except that he ignores Merriman's recounting
of the commune's poorly organized and sloppy defense.  These points
illustrate - contra Marliere - that the commune could have used strong
centralized military leadership.

Of course Marx's main lesson about the Paris Commune was succinctly
repeated from The Civil War in France in the preface to the 1872
German edition of The Communist Manifesto: One thing especially was
proved by the Commune, namely, that 'the working class cannot simply
lay hold of the ready-made State machinery, and wield it for its own
purposes.'

(btw I think that this major 1870s post-Commune correction to the
Communist Manifesto is hard to explain for those who have argued on
this list that Marx and Engels had already solved all strategic issues
of socialist revolution in 1848)


 Marx felt that the Commune might have saved itself had it dealt more harshly
 with its political opponents and centralised all powers and institutions in
 the hands of a revolutionary organisation. After 1871, this was the issue
 that divided Marxists and anarchists. Lenin’s militarist conception of
 political action and the vanguard party was at odds with the anarchist
 approach, which advocated a general strike followed by the immediate
 dismantling of the state by decentralised workers’ councils. In this respect
 the Commune was far more in tune with anarchist culture than with orthodox
 Marxism. Marx, Engels and Lenin criticised the Communards for failing to
 take over capitalist institutions – for instance, the assets of the French
 banks were not confiscated – and thought they showed ‘excessive magnanimity’
 in dealing with counter-revolutionary agents, saboteurs and spies. They also
 believed the Commune paid too little attention to military training and
 discipline.

 The philosophy that prevailed among the Communards had more to do with
 Rousseauian ideas of freedom and true democracy. Although the Commune only
 lasted 72 days, it shouldn’t be regarded as a political failure but as a
 time of intense solidarity – an aspect the Marxist interpretation tends to
 underplay. In fact, the Communards were the first genuine internationalists:
 Reclus, Lefrançais, Verlaine, Vermersch, Rimbaud, Vaillant and Lafargue were
 exiled to London or Geneva and met with like-minded supporters. 

Re: [Marxism] The Paris Commune

2015-06-27 Thread Mark Lause via Marxism
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Dayne wrote, I read John Merriman's new book on the commune, Massacre: The
Life and Death of the Paris Commune of 1871. I don't recommend it to
socialists who already know about the commune.

The problem is, of course, that very few people who actually wants to know
about the Commune ever seem to get to the point where they decide that they
already know about the commune--or, at least, enough to forego reading
something new on it . . . particularly if it takes a very different
approach than they've read so far.  And if you don't want a book that
focuses on bloodshed, you probably shouldn't have picked up one with the
title Massacre. .

Those of us who are still reading on the subject are surely aware that
Robert Tombs has begun promoting a new understanding of the Commune,
deemphasizing the bloodiness of its repression, going so far as to argue
that the Left has historically exaggerated the numbers to portray
capitalism as a particularly bloody and repressive system.  In that
context, Merriman's book is a real contribution.

The Commune was anything but a simple affair.  Like everything in the real
world, it was terribly confused, contradictory, and worthy of more reading
. . . .

ML
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Re: [Marxism] The Paris Commune

2015-06-27 Thread Dayne Goodwin via Marxism
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Touche! Mark,
point taken;
i am usually more sensitive to our need to 'live and learn',
Dayne

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Mark Lause markala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dayne wrote, I read John Merriman's new book on the commune, Massacre: The
 Life and Death of the Paris Commune of 1871. I don't recommend it to
 socialists who already know about the commune.

 The problem is, of course, that very few people who actually wants to know
 about the Commune ever seem to get to the point where they decide that they
 already know about the commune--or, at least, enough to forego reading
 something new on it . . . particularly if it takes a very different approach
 than they've read so far.  And if you don't want a book that focuses on
 bloodshed, you probably shouldn't have picked up one with the title
 Massacre. .

 Those of us who are still reading on the subject are surely aware that
 Robert Tombs has begun promoting a new understanding of the Commune,
 deemphasizing the bloodiness of its repression, going so far as to argue
 that the Left has historically exaggerated the numbers to portray capitalism
 as a particularly bloody and repressive system.  In that context, Merriman's
 book is a real contribution.

 The Commune was anything but a simple affair.  Like everything in the real
 world, it was terribly confused, contradictory, and worthy of more reading .
 . . .
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