[Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j
What is everyone's opinion on changing maverick to use the Apache Commons logging API instead of hardcoding a dependency on log4j. My reason for wanting this would be to cut down on the large number of jar files my project is accumulating.. I'd like to use java.util.logging as much as possible. This would also make maverick even more flexible.. Jon Newton Scan Business Systems 800-906-7226 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149alloc_id66op=click [INVALID FOOTER]
Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j
There have been a few global changes that have been pending for a while. For instance there was the discussion of repackaging everything to net.sf.mav.*. If I'm not mistaken there were a few other changes as well. Maybe now would be an appropriate time to readdress some of the changes including this logging change. I don't see any major problems switching to commons logging, personally I will still use log4j. Thought, Jeff, Scott, Jim? -- mike On Jun 1, 2004, at 6:56 AM, Jon Newton wrote: What is everyone's opinion on changing maverick to use the Apache Commons logging API instead of hardcoding a dependency on log4j. My reason for wanting this would be to cut down on the large number of jar files my project is accumulating.. I'd like to use java.util.logging as much as possible. This would also make maverick even more flexible.. Jon Newton Scan Business Systems 800-906-7226 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149alloc_id66op=click [INVALID FOOTER] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j
That's what I proposed about a year ago, and I still am for replacing Log4J by Commons Logging. Eelco - Original Message - From: Jon Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j What is everyone's opinion on changing maverick to use the Apache Commons logging API instead of hardcoding a dependency on log4j. My reason for wanting this would be to cut down on the large number of jar files my project is accumulating.. I'd like to use java.util.logging as much as possible. This would also make maverick even more flexible.. Jon Newton Scan Business Systems 800-906-7226 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149alloc_id66op=ick [INVALID FOOTER] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click [INVALID FOOTER]
RE: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j
I don't have an opinion either way, and no objections to those who are in favor of the switch... but I guess I'm not really clear on how switching to commons-logging helps the jar file explosion. As I see it: Current: log4j.jar Proposal: commons-logging.jar + log4j.jar -- or -- commons-logging.jar + (JDK logging) So as I see it, it's 1 jar (current) vs. 1 or 2 jars (proposal). What am I missing here? -Thomas -Original Message- From: Eelco Hillenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j That's what I proposed about a year ago, and I still am for replacing Log4J by Commons Logging. Eelco - Original Message - From: Jon Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j What is everyone's opinion on changing maverick to use the Apache Commons logging API instead of hardcoding a dependency on log4j. My reason for wanting this would be to cut down on the large number of jar files my project is accumulating.. I'd like to use java.util.logging as much as possible. This would also make maverick even more flexible.. Jon Newton Scan Business Systems 800-906-7226 --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149alloc_id66op=ick [INVALID FOOTER] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click [INVALID FOOTER] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149alloc_id66op=click [INVALID FOOTER]
[Mav-user] VOTE: Make Eelco a committer
I propose making Eelco a committer. I'm +1. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mav-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco Hillenius Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j If you'd give me commit rights I would be happy to do the dirty work ;) Eelco (sf id eelco12) - Original Message - From: Schnitzer, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:33 PM Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j +1 on moving to commons-logging -1 on moving to JDK1.4 logging What problems are there running Maverick on JDK1.3? The only tricky thing is making sure you have an XML parser since it isn't builtin. The only thing preventing a move from log4j to commons-logging was the absence of anyone who actually wanted to use it that way (as opposed to a bunch of people, including myself, who just think it might be a good idea). We try to follow the XP YAGNI principle, which is why Maverick is as simple as it is. It sounds like we now have a customer for that change. Do we have a volunteer to do the conversion? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mav-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Hernandez Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j Sure. +1 to changing package names and moving to commons logging, or java 1.4 logging (I think we may have some problems running on 1.3 anyway, or was it just some of our dependencies...). It would probably be good to roll any good questions that have come up on the list into the faq, and documentation. We should get a list of changes together, but patches are always welcome. :) - Original Message - From: Mike Moulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] There have been a few global changes that have been pending for a while. For instance there was the discussion of repackaging everything to net.sf.mav.*. If I'm not mistaken there were a few other changes as well. Maybe now would be an appropriate time to readdress some of the changes including this logging change. I don't see any major problems switching to commons logging, personally I will still use log4j. Thought, Jeff, Scott, Jim? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click [INVALID FOOTER] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149alloc_id66op=ick [INVALID FOOTER] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click [INVALID FOOTER] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 [INVALID FOOTER]
Re: [Mav-user] VOTE: Make Eelco a committer
+1, then he can put the link up :) - Original Message - From: Schnitzer, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I propose making Eelco a committer. I'm +1. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 [INVALID FOOTER]
Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin
What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller classes. It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files associated with them. Just an idea... Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the tool could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local (development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy to the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of the application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail, just let me know. - Original Message - From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making some contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them properly. Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config file, and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter than just the XML outline. Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or... are people interested in such a plugin at all?). Eelco --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click [INVALID FOOTER] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 [INVALID FOOTER]
Re: [Mav-user] VOTE: Make Eelco a committer
+1 On Jun 1, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Scott Hernandez wrote: +1, then he can put the link up :) - Original Message - From: Schnitzer, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I propose making Eelco a committer. I'm +1. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 [INVALID FOOTER] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
