Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-13 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I developped a first scratch that is like an XML editor - of which there are
several useful plugins available, and probably will be part of the Eclipse
distro sometime
(http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-webtools/index.html). However, it
is a little bit smarter about views e.g. and potential functionality would
be direct navigation to a defined controller class (you F3 in Java source
files).

But... too many other projects, too much hours of paid work to do, too many
hobbies and festival season is here. I have stopped developping it and will
not pick it up again either, as I think the rate of time I have to invest in
it and it's general usefullness is not favorable enough.

Now about the pluggable controller factory. Actually that has been the only
functionality in Maverick I found lacking myself. On the other hand I - and
you too in this case - could just use the reload command to re-initialise
the controllers, so I never realy considered proposing a patch.

Eelco

- Original Message - 
From: Yurii Urazlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


Greetings,

Sorry, but I don't think that it should be in plug-in.

1. With IDEA you can click class name in XML files and it will open its
source. Probably, Eclipse itself should provide this functionality?

2. If you use unpacked web-app and disabled caching in
XSLTransformFactory, than you do not have to re-deploy anything. You
just change it, and it is used.


I think that there is sense in using adaptive classloader for
throwaways. It would reload controller classes as they change without
redeployment. If there was pluggable ControllerFactory, I could provide
a patch.

Yuri.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller
classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the
tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy
to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of
the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.




- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making
some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them
properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter
than
 just the XML outline.

 Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or...
are
 people interested in such a plugin at all?).

 Eelco



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Re: [Mav-user] Site permissions and release plan

2004-06-13 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Actually it is not. You can still use Log4J as you did, but there's one more
lib living in you app space now - if it wasn't allready there because a lot
of project have a dependency on it.

I really like Log4J and never used other logging systems when I did not have
to. I do understand users who do not want to have the dependency on it when
they do not use it. Commons logging 1.0.3 consists of 17 classes and is
about 31 kb, Log4J consists of 244 classes and is about 345 kb large.

Eelco

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From: Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Site permissions and release plan


 Is this an optional change?  IE is either the old or new logger a viable
 option?
 On the nerits of Maverick, I recently started using log4j exclusively.


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