[MeeGo-dev] Future of hildon?

2010-05-23 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, being one of the people that have written gtk/hildon apps for maemo, i'd like to understand if there's a future for hildon in meego at all. There doesn't seem to be an official roadmap. Some intel guys claimed that Nokia wanted to drop support for gtk/hildon completely and that at least gtk

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Future of hildon?

2010-05-24 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Am Montag 24 Mai 2010 schrieb Thiago Macieira: As for the stacked windows, maybe it's a matter of determining if that's a feature that is wanted? Maybe the target UX won't have them, so they shouldn't be ported, but instead adapted to the new concept. From my personal developers point of

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Future of hildon?

2010-06-17 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Donnerstag 17 Juni 2010 schrieb Carsten Munk: A question for the Hildon crowd - are you willing to accept that patches might have to be made to move Hildon apps to MeeGo? To fit with stock GTK+ for instance. A definitive yes from me! Thanks for your work, Till

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo 1.0 core on Beagleboard

2010-06-22 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, great. I have been doing some minor work on maemo5 on beagleboard and got pretty discouraged when seeing that this project went backward instead of forward. I have followed the instructions and am now running the n900 image with the modified 2.6.34 kernel. Is this the current state? Any

[MeeGo-dev] Beagleboard kernel config / sgx setup?

2010-06-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi list, i have successfully built the beagleboard rootfs using the daily snapshot kickstart following the instructions on http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_the_Beagle Now i am struggling to get a useful kernel and a sgx setup running. So far i didn't get any video output from the kernel.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Beagleboard kernel config / sgx setup?

2010-06-30 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
a few minutes a day between ordinary work and family ... but i'll try. Ciao, Till Cheers, Ameya. On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 13:44 +0200, ext Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: In reply to myself: I now get a 800x480 console on my diy display attached to the beagleboard using the current

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Beagleboard kernel config / sgx setup?

2010-06-30 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
jammula: Hi, I have just started working on Beagle. But while booting it is failing while mounting the RFS. I have used mmcblk01 and Ext3. Any hints on this. Thank Kiran Jammula On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org wrote: Hi list, i have

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Beagleboard kernel config / sgx setup?

2010-06-30 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
or directory. Stop. make: *** [buildkernel] Error 2 Best regards, Axel. Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org Sent by: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com 06/30/2010 07:04 AM Please respond to Development for the MeeGo Project meego-dev@meego.com To meego-dev@meego.com cc

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Beagleboard kernel config / sgx setup?

2010-07-09 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Donnerstag 08 Juli 2010 schrieb William Mills: This is an excellent page! Much better than the piece meal stuff we had before. Thanks. Hopefully somebody will make use of it. Till: You also seem to be running on 10.04. Do you see the following error after the mic-image-creator

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Meego on the Beagleboard

2010-07-10 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch Till Am Samstag 10 Juli 2010 schrieb Erandi Chavolla: Hi All, I'm trying to flash meego on the beagleboard but I have some issues could you help me, I'm following this steps: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_the_Beagle

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Handset-armv7l-beagle.ks ... VERTICAL-$ARCH-$VARIANT

2010-07-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, actually both issues are related. The wiki converts the first character of a file name to uppercase. You need to change the name back so the first letter is lowercase again. When you try to work with the uppercase file instead mic-image-builder complains that the naming scheme doesn't

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Handset-armv7l-beagle.ks ... VERTICAL-$ARCH-$VARIANT

2010-07-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, that's correct! Till Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010 schrieb Mills, William: Actually it looks to me that Handset must be handset as written on the wiki page. http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator/blobs/master/tools/mic-image-creator#line428 The reason you get a

[MeeGo-dev] Video: MeeGo on BeagleBoard XM

2010-08-01 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdKcNOrC5e4 Till ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Handset-armv5tel-beagle.ks results in kernel panic

2010-08-02 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Montag 02 August 2010 schrieb axel.end...@renesas.com: [2.420898] hub 1-2.1:1.0: USB hub found [2.425170] hub 1-2.1:1.0: 3 ports detected [2.477355] EXT3-fs (mmcblk0p2): using internal journal [2.482666] EXT3-fs (mmcblk0p2): mounted filesystem with writeback data mode

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Handset-armv5tel-beagle.ks results in kernel panic

2010-08-03 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
with a flashing cursor in the upper left. Sorry, Axel. Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org Sent by: li...@harbaum.org 08/02/2010 12:46 PM To meego-dev@meego.com cc axel.end...@renesas.com, Gleason Jeff-B18626 b18...@freescale.com Subject Re: [MeeGo-dev] Handset-armv5tel

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ARMv7, Qt and NEON

2010-08-18 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Am Mittwoch 18 August 2010 schrieb Thiago Macieira: On Wednesday 18. August 2010 18.27.16 Ameya Palande wrote: Hi Thiago, On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 18:16 +0200, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: On Wednesday 18 August 2010 15:09:37 Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 8/18/2010 3:19 AM, Carsten Munk

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Does MeeGo need OpenGL/ES or OpenVG Hardware?

2010-08-20 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, MeeGo core does not need gles, but some ux do. E.g. the handset ux won't start w/o gles. The ivi ux currently runs fine without gles. Till Am Freitag 20 August 2010 schrieb Tobias Renz: Hello, I'm trying to bring MeeGo to a iMX35 processor based board. The iMX35 is an Arm11 (ArmV6).

[MeeGo-dev] Problem when installing madde for handset

2010-09-21 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, has anyone else seen the following problem? It seems the tar.bz2 format is not recognized by whatever tool is trying to decompress it. Till harb...@metis:~/meego-sdk/0.7.25/bin$ ./mad-admin create_from_image

Re: [MeeGo-dev] QtLocation MeeGo repository

2010-10-01 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, speaking of QTLocation: I can't find a mailing list for this or qtmobility in general. Where's a good place for developers wanted to start to play with it and giving feedback/ask questions? Till Am Mittwoch 29 September 2010 schrieb juha.vuo...@nokia.com: Hi everyone, I've set up a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo development HW

2010-12-01 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, the various beagleboards as well as the pandaboard seem to be the only hardware developments boards that currently support meego. They are imho the only plattforms that give you direct access to i2c and legacy uart (and many many more interfaces). If you want to run the netbook ux, then a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Urgent: We need community ftp space or similar

2010-12-01 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Mittwoch 01 Dezember 2010 schrieb Clark, Joel: It's not that hard. Just need a maintainer volunteer can work within the MeeGo build system to make images for everyone to work with rather than keeping this stuff private and unmaintained. Not all systems are equal. And building an

Re: [MeeGo-dev] I can not run kernel 2.6.35.3, but no error during the boot

2010-12-17 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, On Friday, December 17, 2010 07:54:04 Leo wrote: Wiki instructions for beagleboard changed a lot, I'd like to try it again. I would believe many people have tried it. Dunno, according to the feedback noone ever tried it or noone ever had problems with it. So after I replace uboot.bin

Re: [MeeGo-dev] What are the advantages of developing QT apps without libmeegotouch over MTF enabled application?

2010-12-28 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 28 Dezember 2010 schrieb Ville M. Vainio: QWidgets were not good enough for anybody You are talking about these QWidgets that several tutorials on the meego conference were about? Are you really wondering why developers are confused and loosing confidence in all this? Do you

Re: [MeeGo-dev] What are the advantages of developing QT apps without libmeegotouch over MTF enabled application?

2011-01-02 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 28 Dezember 2010 schrieb Bernd Stramm: What seems very ironic about the situation is that there appears to be a new, strict separation between the UX layers for mobile and desktop. Speaking of this: I have meegotouch running native on my ubuntu desktop, i have qtmobility

Re: [MeeGo-dev] What are the advantages of developing QT apps without libmeegotouch over MTF enabled application?

2011-01-03 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Sonntag 02 Januar 2011 schrieb kate.alh...@nokia.com: You have not yet installed Qt Components package, exactly same way that you need include and link libraries in C++ Qt, you need import Component libraries for Qml. Ok, that's correct. Yesterday i followed these instructions:

[MeeGo-dev] Where to discuss development of meegotouch apps?

2011-01-07 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, is there a place to ask questions about the usage of meegotouch (i know, qt components is the way to go, but a) these don't seem to be very complete atm and b) i'd like to understand how things work). So the two things i am just running into e.g. are: 1) How do i change the style of a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where to discuss development of meegotouch apps?

2011-01-08 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, uhm, isn't that for development of meegotouch itself? Till Am Freitag 07 Januar 2011 schrieb Michael Leibowitz: On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 12:04 -0800, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: is there a place to ask questions about the usage of meegotouch (i know, qt components is the way to go

Re: [MeeGo-dev] FW: [MeeGo-SDK] About Meego Handset for armv7l

2011-04-05 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
hI, Am Dienstag 05 April 2011 schrieb fathi.bou...@nokia.com: So can anybody successes to run these application on the arm architecture Yes, i do. Till ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] FW: [MeeGo-SDK] About Meego Handset for armv7l

2011-04-06 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
: http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/beagleboard/handset-armv7l-beagle.ks -Original Message- From: Till Harbaum / Lists [mailto:li...@harbaum.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:40 PM To: fathi.bou...@nokia.com Cc: meego-dev@meego.com; k...@isb.co.jp Subject: Re: FW: [MeeGo-SDK

[MeeGo-dev] Fwd: Re: MeeGo Community device program update

2011-04-27 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 05 April 2011 schrieb Randall Arnold: - I was just down in Austin for the Texas Linux fest this last Saturday [4] and got to talk with Jayabharath Goluguri from TI about Pandaboards there. �TI is eager to get some into the hands of MeeGo members with big ideas! �So pending the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] how to port meego to snapdragon

2011-04-27 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, in order to make sure that everything is in place to start the handset UX, make sure that either GLES is working (by e.g. running some 3D demos from xterm) or make sure that you run the handset UX with software rendering (which in turn would result in a barely usable slow UX, but at least

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Detailed comparison results for Maemo 5 Fremantle and MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan

2011-06-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, oh, wow, no libsdl anymore. So the list of apps not portable to MeeGo includes all gtk apps, all hildon apps, all non-qml qt apps and now all sdl apps. I still hope that some of these will return in form of community ports. Till Am Mittwoch 29 Juni 2011 schrieb Andrey Ponomarenko: Hi,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] LF will not permit apps.meego.com : say hello to apps.formeego.org

2011-08-02 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 02 August 2011 schrieb Dave Neary: From where I am standing, with no special knowledge at all, it looks like the Linux Foundation is simply a risk-averse organisation, conscious of the potential knock-on effects that any legal issues could cause for their members and the

Re: [MeeGo-touch-dev] QML support in Meego touch Framework

2011-01-10 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, does this really make any sense? According to the header on this page: http://apidocs.meego.com/1.1/platform/html/index.html the entire meegotouch api is discouraged for general use. So the original question is still valid: How does one write meegotouch apps through qml without using any