Re: [MeeGo-dev] mono

2011-01-06 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:09 -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote:

 On Wednesday, 5 de January de 2011 09:22:22 Pertti Kellomki wrote:
  On 01/05/2011 12:58 AM, ext Arjan van de Ven wrote:
  
  Does this imply that the reference applications are not compliant? Or do
  they include Mono in the packaging?
 
 And yes, reference applications don't need to be compliant. Anyone can ship a 
 MeeGo device with non-compliant applications. In fact, there's nothing that 
 stops non-compliant applications from being allowed on any kind of device. 


Can you define allowed?


 
 What matters is that compliant applications must be accepted and mu
 t work.


I would of thought that by being compliant, your application would work
throughout all the verticals. Is that a true statement?

TIA, Sergio
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] mono

2011-01-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday, 6 de January de 2011 09:15:56 Sergio Schvezov wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:09 -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote:
  On Wednesday, 5 de January de 2011 09:22:22 Pertti Kellomki wrote:
   On 01/05/2011 12:58 AM, ext Arjan van de Ven wrote:
   
   Does this imply that the reference applications are not compliant?
   Or do they include Mono in the packaging?
  
  And yes, reference applications don't need to be compliant. Anyone can
  ship a MeeGo device with non-compliant applications. In fact, there's
  nothing that stops non-compliant applications from being allowed on any
  kind of device.
 
 Can you define allowed?

The sense of the word in English. The opposite of forbidden.

In other words: nothing forbids non-compliant applications. The specification 
deals with what a compliant application and a compliant device must do, at 
minimum. What they do in *addition* to the spec is not defined by the spec.

  What matters is that compliant applications must be accepted and mu
  t work.
 
 I would of thought that by being compliant, your application would work
 throughout all the verticals. Is that a true statement?

That's the idea.

But note that work in our sense here means it loads and runs, not that it 
displays properly or that the application is even suitable for the device.

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] mono

2011-01-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday, 5 de January de 2011 09:22:22 Pertti Kellomäki wrote:
 On 01/05/2011 12:58 AM, ext Arjan van de Ven wrote:
  Mono is being pulled in by some of the reference applications for the
  Netbook build.
  you're not required to have Mono, nor can compliant apps expect it to
  be there; if you decide to replace the reference applications with
  something else, Mono is likely not there

 Does this imply that the reference applications are not compliant? Or do
 they include Mono in the packaging?

Mono is included as a dependency of those applications.

And yes, reference applications don't need to be compliant. Anyone can ship a
MeeGo device with non-compliant applications. In fact, there's nothing that
stops non-compliant applications from being allowed on any kind of device.

What matters is that compliant applications must be accepted and mu
t work.

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[MeeGo-dev] mono

2011-01-04 Thread Mark S. Townsley
Hi:

I am seeing mono as part of Meego distribution.  Is that part of Meego core?

thanks

Mark
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