Re: [mer-general] beginners where to start
Hi Marc, 2012/4/29 Marc Stephan Nkouly mcste...@gmail.com: Please sir for a young man from Africa interested in building apps for for featured phones am asking my self where should i starts, and with all the project like Maemo, tizen, Mer, Ubuntu for handheld, Android am confuse and i simply believe in inexpensive device that can have support a browser like OPERA mini and can have access to a server to keeps files and update them. One thing that you must remember, is that the cheap featurephones of today are as strong and powerful as the expensive smartphones of few years ago. Another is history, when there became and more more powerful PCs, they reached a level of power that meant that for most general purposes, having a low cost and low CPU PC was more than enough for many of the typical things that a PC is used for, like word processing, browsing the internet, sending e-mail and the causal computer gaming. And this was more than enough for most people. The same thing is happening to the featurephone market. Because smartphone market is so big and technology got more advanced and sometimes cheaper to make certain chips, the components a featurephone needs got cheaper too. Which means that featurephones are reaching a level where most features you traditionally find in a smartphones, is now possible to have, at low cost. This means that technologies, such as HTML5 may in fact be entirely possible to use on a featurephone and that's where I would recommend you to begin researching to understand applications that can be usable on featurephones. It (HTML5) can with offline capability and combinations of open standards and internet communications, as well as hosting in the cloud, give you really interesting abilities to make interesting applications. because here in Africa with insecurity it will be difficult for people to buy expensive device and i believe in the cloud because even if they lose the device they can still retrieve the data as soon as they have another device. I think you brought up an interesting point there that I haven't myself thought about - thank you for that insight. please hope you can guide me ?? I hope this has helped you a bit on the way. Here in Mer project, we seek to help people make devices cheaper, simply by making it easier for them to do the software for them. If you don't mind me asking, how much does a typical featurephone cost for you, what model is 'best' in your view, what do you hope it could do and what do you wish it cost? thank's in advance -- Marc Stephan Nkouly bp: 223 Mankon Bamenda cameroon Mobile: 00 237 77 95 77 55 00 237 96 19 11 50 mcste...@hotmail.com mcstean_...@yahoo.com
Re: [mer-general] beginners where to start
I'm a beginner too. Nice to have someone here bring this up. I have different approach though. Most of the time I have difficulties to getting started in development process. We need somehow clear guidance on the steps. Mer is based on Linux? So, It will be great to start with Kernel Development Process? or we could jump directly on app development. About low cost devices, if Mer project get its successful story, do you think it will attract device makers? or we could just plug in to any available devices just like B2G? While N9 is too expensive and N950 is too limited. Beside from this, I have a lot inspired from blaast ( http://www.blaast.com/) to make it available on S40 devices, and gain a lot attention from one of biggest operators in Indonesia. Emulator is not helping, since it's difficult to sense the experience compare to the real hardware. I'm sorry for jumping around and random unstructured (maybe somehow unrelated) thinking Cheers, Dhi Aurrahman @diorahman On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Carsten Munk carsten.m...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Marc, 2012/4/29 Marc Stephan Nkouly mcste...@gmail.com: Please sir for a young man from Africa interested in building apps for for featured phones am asking my self where should i starts, and with all the project like Maemo, tizen, Mer, Ubuntu for handheld, Android am confuse and i simply believe in inexpensive device that can have support a browser like OPERA mini and can have access to a server to keeps files and update them. One thing that you must remember, is that the cheap featurephones of today are as strong and powerful as the expensive smartphones of few years ago. Another is history, when there became and more more powerful PCs, they reached a level of power that meant that for most general purposes, having a low cost and low CPU PC was more than enough for many of the typical things that a PC is used for, like word processing, browsing the internet, sending e-mail and the causal computer gaming. And this was more than enough for most people. The same thing is happening to the featurephone market. Because smartphone market is so big and technology got more advanced and sometimes cheaper to make certain chips, the components a featurephone needs got cheaper too. Which means that featurephones are reaching a level where most features you traditionally find in a smartphones, is now possible to have, at low cost. This means that technologies, such as HTML5 may in fact be entirely possible to use on a featurephone and that's where I would recommend you to begin researching to understand applications that can be usable on featurephones. It (HTML5) can with offline capability and combinations of open standards and internet communications, as well as hosting in the cloud, give you really interesting abilities to make interesting applications. because here in Africa with insecurity it will be difficult for people to buy expensive device and i believe in the cloud because even if they lose the device they can still retrieve the data as soon as they have another device. I think you brought up an interesting point there that I haven't myself thought about - thank you for that insight. please hope you can guide me ?? I hope this has helped you a bit on the way. Here in Mer project, we seek to help people make devices cheaper, simply by making it easier for them to do the software for them. If you don't mind me asking, how much does a typical featurephone cost for you, what model is 'best' in your view, what do you hope it could do and what do you wish it cost? thank's in advance -- Marc Stephan Nkouly bp: 223 Mankon Bamenda cameroon Mobile: 00 237 77 95 77 55 00 237 96 19 11 50 mcste...@hotmail.commcstean_...@yahoo.com
Re: [mer-general] beginners where to start
Blaast probably makes sense in indonesia or in any other place where it is supported by some of the big players/operators. For Nokia/S40, something including usable emulator: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Develop/Web/Tools/Nokia_Web_Tools/ Consider also completely web based http://appwizard.ovi.com/web_nokia/ That gives you rather good coverage on Nokia space for simple apps. Br, //Harri On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Dhi Aurrahman dio.rah...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a beginner too. Nice to have someone here bring this up. I have different approach though. Most of the time I have difficulties to getting started in development process. We need somehow clear guidance on the steps. Mer is based on Linux? So, It will be great to start with Kernel Development Process? or we could jump directly on app development. About low cost devices, if Mer project get its successful story, do you think it will attract device makers? or we could just plug in to any available devices just like B2G? While N9 is too expensive and N950 is too limited. Beside from this, I have a lot inspired from blaast (http://www.blaast.com/) to make it available on S40 devices, and gain a lot attention from one of biggest operators in Indonesia. Emulator is not helping, since it's difficult to sense the experience compare to the real hardware. I'm sorry for jumping around and random unstructured (maybe somehow unrelated) thinking Cheers, Dhi Aurrahman @diorahman On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Carsten Munk carsten.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marc, 2012/4/29 Marc Stephan Nkouly mcste...@gmail.com: Please sir for a young man from Africa interested in building apps for for featured phones am asking my self where should i starts, and with all the project like Maemo, tizen, Mer, Ubuntu for handheld, Android am confuse and i simply believe in inexpensive device that can have support a browser like OPERA mini and can have access to a server to keeps files and update them. One thing that you must remember, is that the cheap featurephones of today are as strong and powerful as the expensive smartphones of few years ago. Another is history, when there became and more more powerful PCs, they reached a level of power that meant that for most general purposes, having a low cost and low CPU PC was more than enough for many of the typical things that a PC is used for, like word processing, browsing the internet, sending e-mail and the causal computer gaming. And this was more than enough for most people. The same thing is happening to the featurephone market. Because smartphone market is so big and technology got more advanced and sometimes cheaper to make certain chips, the components a featurephone needs got cheaper too. Which means that featurephones are reaching a level where most features you traditionally find in a smartphones, is now possible to have, at low cost. This means that technologies, such as HTML5 may in fact be entirely possible to use on a featurephone and that's where I would recommend you to begin researching to understand applications that can be usable on featurephones. It (HTML5) can with offline capability and combinations of open standards and internet communications, as well as hosting in the cloud, give you really interesting abilities to make interesting applications. because here in Africa with insecurity it will be difficult for people to buy expensive device and i believe in the cloud because even if they lose the device they can still retrieve the data as soon as they have another device. I think you brought up an interesting point there that I haven't myself thought about - thank you for that insight. please hope you can guide me ?? I hope this has helped you a bit on the way. Here in Mer project, we seek to help people make devices cheaper, simply by making it easier for them to do the software for them. If you don't mind me asking, how much does a typical featurephone cost for you, what model is 'best' in your view, what do you hope it could do and what do you wish it cost? thank's in advance -- Marc Stephan Nkouly bp: 223 Mankon Bamenda cameroon Mobile: 00 237 77 95 77 55 00 237 96 19 11 50 mcste...@hotmail.com mcstean_...@yahoo.com
