I'm trying to send this message to Scott at primenet, and it keeps bouncing,
the mersenne.org mail server is refusing my connections (I even tried from
work, and got a different but similar error that the server didn' recognize
his address and was refusing relay)
If anyone knows an alternate
for the continuation of the list, we'll need a new name...
I'm suggesting...
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is that good for everyone?
What are these new names. Is this where majordome(or whatever mailing
list manager you will use) will reside?
And I want to add my appreciation to Gordon for his long
At 11:30 AM 4/22/2004 -0700, Gordon Irlam wrote:
FYI. I intend to end this list shortly.
for the continuation of the list, we'll need a new name...
I'm suggesting...
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is that good for everyone?
it may temporarily be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] until the DNS can be setup for the
If you are going to archive and publish past postings, please be sure
that any email addresses get obfuscated so that they can't be harvested
by spammers. I just switched email addresses because I was getting so
much spam, and I would hate to have to do it again.
the archives are generally set to
I want to know if it is possible to distribute LL algorithm so that we can
run it on a cluster to test one exopnent on several nodes simultaneously
so check it in a shorter peroid of time . Or should we use trial_factoring
algorithm in this regard!. or other algorithms.???
not doable. there's
p4 with 400 or 533Mhz FSB do not support hyperthreading, *EXCEPT* the
p4-3.06/533 does.
P4 with 800MHz FSB (these are the C versions) do support hyperthreading.
P4 Xeons all support HT.
I have a question... gotta couple of dual P4/Xeon 2.8 servers, running
linux 2.4.20 kernels... using
The standard way to identify is to have all physical CPU's listed first (0,1
in a dual CPU system) followed by the virtual CPU's (2,3)
Hmmm, looks like you are wrong... /proc/cpuinfo shows cpu 0,1 as being
one physical id, and cpu 2,3 as being the other..
# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Just joined the list and wanted to say hey. I am new to the project and
find it very interesting. Does anyone know how long it has been running?
since at least 1995.
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Just joined the list and wanted to say hey. I am new to the project and
find it very interesting. Does anyone know how long it has been
running?
since at least 1995.
my bad, apparently the original prime95 came out in january 1996 this
per the FAQ's and stuff on the mersenne.org
Humour aside, I'm intrigued. Why was your kit taken?
it was a long story.
short version is, he was a consultant, working at some biga$$ insurance
company as a PC Tech. he pre-loaded Prime95 on the desktop install so it
was running on a few 100 machines at said company. he thought he had
By installing the www.memokit.com memory optimizer and setting the
priority
of PRIME95 to REALTIME, I brought the .081 spec down to .063 at the very
top of the Benchmark list.
1) Assuming your system is otherwise idle, changing the priority should
have
zero effect.
worse, running a 100%
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 03:16:24PM -0400, George Woltman wrote:
2) This case results from the way my C compiler treats floating point
NaN.
NaN stands for not a number. If NaN is converted to an integer, the
integer
is zero. So if the FFT data is all NaNs, prime95 will report a prime.
I
Does anyone know what happened to the archives?
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
well, http://www.mail-archive.com says...
June 2, 2003
Mail-Archive is experiencing technical problems, all archives are
temporarily offline and are being actively restored from backup. Because of
*VERY* odd. I sent and recieved this message yesterday, and today I get
another copy...
- Original Message -
From: John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mersenne discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 PM
Subject: Mersenne: mprime and primenet
.
I note
I just started running a recent build of mprime on a couple of linux
systems, and noted an anomaly vis a vis primenet...
When mprime connects to primenet, its not updating date on the rest of the
worktodo, only on the exponent actually in progress.
case in point...
18665107 67 13.6 7.4
the numerologists are at it again...
http://www.nature.com/nsu/030317/030317-13.html
or something.
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I am mulling over my next machine. I would like to know the performance
difference between using dual Zeons vs two boxes both running P4 CPUs. I
believe that the Zeon only has a 400 MHz bus while the current P4s have a
533 MHz bus. I would be running XP in either case.
the newest xeons have
None of my mprime machines have been able to check in with Primenet for
the past 16 hours. Is it me or is there a problem?
I just got server unavailable myself, so it must be the server.
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oh boy, maybe I can climb back up the ranks a bit having long since slipped
off the first 100... I just brought online a pair of identical Intel
servers, each a 2GB dual p4/xeon 2.8Ghz linux 2.4.18 system... running
latest non-beta mprime from the downloads page ...
I have disabled
whooops. I just sent a reply to 'Spike66's query on new machines to a
completely differnet list by accident. Total brainfart.
here's what I meant to post here
Some of you hardware jockeys please give me a
clue. I have two machines at home running GIMPS 24-7.
One is a P4-2Ghz. The
I've identified 185 exponents that have had NO progress reported and are
either:
a) Below 12,000,000 and been assigned for 200 days or more, or
b) Between 12 and 20 million and been assigned for 300 days or more
Does anyone see any problems with releasing these exponents back into
the
But, no, you won't be able to complete a 10M on a P100 ;-)
my slowest machine still on primenet is a p150 that has 60 days to finish
14581247, its been working on it for about 300 days now, 24/7, with nearly
zero downtime. 2.22 seconds per iteration, yikes.
I probably should retire this box
Actually it's a lie. I've got a dual Pent III with 4Gb RAM. You cannot
have
a single process that uses more than 2Gb of RAM with any of the Linux 2.4
kernels.
We hadda install Solaris on the box to do what we wanted to.
how did you get more than 2GB of address space in usermode in a single
the fastest P4 cpus have a rated FSB of 533 (which is 266*2). running
the
bus at 333(666) would be overclocking.
Ah, but most modern mobos can run the memory asynchronously to the
processor
bus. I think this goes back some way - certainly the Abit KT7A board
(Athlon)
could run the
I'm giving my brother's family a new computer for christmas.
He'll buy it from a local (to him) 'white box' pc store and I'll
pay for it. I am a little concerned about performance because
the pc will probably be running GIMPS and I'd like to get my
money's worth. It's easy to request a P4
Personally - although this is distinctly unfashionable - I far prefer
Rambus
memory - so far as GIMPS is concerned, a 2.53 GHz P4 using PC1066 Rambus
memory (implying the i850E chipset) will outperform _any_ system up to 2.8
GHz using DDR memory. The point here is that the total memory
(yet more PC hardware details below... feel free to skip this if isn't your
thing...)
$213 Intel Retail P4-2.4B (these have the 533MHz bus)
2.53B should be very little more expensive. Last time I checked the first
big
price step was still between 2.5A/2.53B and 2.6A/2.66B.
my store wants
Yesterday, Ernst posted his URLs for the Mlucas unix stuff...
I've changed the URLs and fixed a bunch of the links on the pages.
Ernst's pages:...
GIMPS source code timing page:
http://www.hogranch.com/mayer/gimps_timings.html
Mlucas README:
http://www.hogranch.com/mayer/README.html
How many times did you try, and over how long a period?
Last I heard, Ernst Mayer lived near San Jose, CA, and kept the
web pages on a home machine. One headline at www.sjmercury.com reads
actually, he's using MY server which is at my home in Santa Cruz, and in
fact our power was out for
Speaking of, I thought I'd converted you over to using http: addresses? its
a much faster and more efficient protocol than FTP.
instead of
ftp://www.hogranch.com/pub/mayer/gimps_timings.html
use http://www.hogranch.com/mayer/gimps_timings.html etc etc...
I went ahead and dug into your HTML and
Yesterday I went from Windows XP home to service pack 1. The speed of
prime95 went down by over 2%. Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas on
what caused it or how it can be fixed?
Code performance can vary more than that just based on cache and page
boundries of where its loaded.
My brother once stated that an old computer is still usefull, because
you can put a nice beatifull cloth on it, and use it as a coffee
table. Myself, when I will be given time from other interests, I will
study the problem of how can you control the christmas tree lamps with
an old
This question is for the serious NT sysadmins out there: Given that
Microsoft
strongly discourages NT services having a GUI interface, are there any
problems
or security issues I need to worry about? A GUI service must run under
the
Local
System account. You can still use Hide Icon to
George told me that he has confirmed that Visual C++ 7.0 is bringing in
this dependency, but that he didn't see an immediate way to get rid of
it. Based on my very limited experience with VC++ 6.0, I would guess that
going to Project-Settings-Link and taking out oleacc.lib ( if it is
there
probably unusable without breaking the Microsoft
licence. Remember that several PC recycling projects have run foul of
this;
even though the system was bought with a Windows licence, passing the
system
to a third party with Windows still installed is taken as a breach of the
EULA.
I'd like
I know that when I did my first tests of the memory prefetch on my Win95
Celeron II machine, prime95 would not work. Upgrading to Win98 fixed the
problem.
I also recall win95 had a problem that caused data corruption in Prime95 if
you concurrently ran a process that used the MMX
interesting... Picked off a email newsletter on microprocessor design...
This thing sounds like it could *smoke* through Lucas-Lehmer FFT's...
*** Intrinsity Arrays 2GHz Adaptive Matrix ***
EPF 2002 Presentation Introduces FastMath
By Max Baron {5/13/02-01}
First presented at EPF 2002,
But, to get back to the real topic, I checked out
Intrinsificitienceality's
supercalafragalistic website, and unless I'm misreading something, it's
all 32-bit fixed-point arithmetic - very fast, and also completely useless
for
LL testing large exponents. We need fast double-precision
I have a new laptop which has some problems. First I ran tartest (a
program I
wrote which repeatedly untars the kernel source and compares the results)
and
found that one memory module is bad and the other is good. Next I found
that
when it compiles Linux, the result doesn't work. So I copied
Was there _really_ no posting made to the Mersenne mailing list
between Mon, 18 Feb 2002 (02:19:32 -0500 From: Justin Valcourt)
and Tue, 26 Feb 2002 (19:46:54 +0100 From: Henk Stokhorst) ??
thats what I show here I get the individual emails rather than the digest
-jrp
I doubt that Intel compiler is based on Kai C++.
Intel bought Kai.
http://developer.intel.com/software/products/trans/kai/
http://developer.intel.com/software/products/compilers/c50/openmp.htm
The last version of Kai C++ from Intel was 4.0, this new Intel C++
compiler is 5.0.
As John points implies, you've got to be pretty committed to shell
out ~$500 per system for the privelege of compiling code on your
own hardware. It would take a _really_ significant speed boost to
make that sort of expenditure worthwhile.
I downloaded a free complete version for
http://www.slashdot.org has a link to http://open-mag.com on a new Intel
compiler for Linux an M$ Windows. The new compiler makes use of the new
instructions in the Pentium III and IV. Of course, the most important
part of the Prime95 code does not get compiled at all, since it has
already
I am running version 21.4 of Prime. I recently started using a
DSL connection on AOL. ( I am using Version 7.0 of AOL). Since
I started using this arrangement, Prime locks up whenever it
connects with Primenet. After some delay, during which time
everything stops, Primenet reports an ERROR
Testing this number would take at least 2^(2^13466917 - 1) - 1 bits of
storage. The supercomputer described above would not even come
close to having enough RAM to store that. If it did, the LL test would
then require approximately 2^13466917 - 1 massive iterations. If the
computer
I don't think I made the Thermal Monitor feature
clear enough. From what I've read at Intel's
website, I believe it is built onto the P4 chip,
Yes, most current processors have a thermistor on chip some
means of signalling the die temperature through the pin array.
the P4 has numerous
Ok, this is kinda silly, and if you are easily offended, don't go here..
but if you have a bent sense of humor (on topic for this list), check out
the Prime Bear at. (requires a late model browser that handles java
scripting reasonably well)
That is VERY strange... and I feel compelled to try and beat the current
record of watching it get to above 52,490,219 :) May take me a while,
but oh well... :)
Good find. I got a laugh out of it. Just goes to prove my point that
some people have WAY too much free time. :)
gotta be
How would I go about giving an exponent I've been assigned to someone
else? From previous discussions, it seems as though PrimeNet would reject
the assignment as not belonging to him, but I've seen exponents moved from
one account to another without expiring, so I know it can be done. I
one more time, I'm offering a ride to anyone and everyone who wants to be
picked up in the santa cruz or los gatos areas, leaving santa cruz around
5pm friday... I've got a brand new 7 passenger full sized van (Ford E150
'Traveler'), and 7 *is* a Mersenne prime number (2^3 - 1)...
anyone
Well, we had a nice get together in Mtn View tonite as planned. We toasted
the requisite pitchers of the Tied House's rather excellent Dark and
Stout... And we had a surprise visit by Donald Knuth himself.
My pictures didn't come out that great, and I thought I took more than I
apparently did,
one more time, I'm offering a ride to anyone and everyone who wants to be
picked up in the santa cruz or los gatos areas, leaving santa cruz around
5pm friday... I've got a brand new 7 passenger full sized van (Ford E150
'Traveler'), and 7 *is* a Mersenne prime number (2^3 - 1)...
anyone wants
1) Tied House, Mountain View
2) Faultline Brewery, Sunnyvale
either, orther, as far as I care... heh.
re: ride sharing, I have a new 7 passenger van, and might be able to
carpool
folks from the Santa Cruz area... assuming I can go (I've got to check
with
SWMBO to make sure we don't have
1) Tied House, Mountain View
2) Faultline Brewery, Sunnyvale
either, orther, as far as I care... heh.
re: ride sharing, I have a new 7 passenger van, and might be able to carpool
folks from the Santa Cruz area... assuming I can go (I've got to check with
SWMBO to make sure we don't have a
It appears now that this claim is also somewhat invalid, as Cray's current
champion is an 8,192 GFLOP machine called the SX-6/1024M128, a machine with
128 vector processors, or 64 MFLOPS per processing unit.
As such, it seems that GIMPS is now truly only equivalent to about one
quarter
John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] listed some sites in Monterey.
So far, however, only he and I have expressed interest in that location.
Unless at least five mailing list members express interest in Monterey
by December 1, we should go elsewhere. Of course there is nothing to
preclude
Can anyone come? Announce it on the list if you do it.
Where abouts are they held?
I will if I can. Depends on the date and family conflicts and where in the
rather sprawling SFBA it is... I'm in Santa Cruz, so naturally would prefer
points towards the south end of the Bay Area...
The Western Number Theory Conference
http://home.earthlink.net/~bartgoddard/mainpage.html
meets in Monterey (acutally Asilomar)
then it would follow we should meet in the Monterey area. Santa Cruz is a
45 minute drive from Monterey, silicon valley 90 minutes or so. I'd be
Finally, reasonable configuration of a firewall (even a personal
firewall product installed on the workstation itself) will prevent
exploitation of a Back Orifice type trojan, even if one does manage
to sneak in unnoticed - these work by creating a listener which
allows those in the know to
I have to do some work with Solaris 8 on x86 (i.e. Intel
processors), and was wondering if anyone felt inclined to
port mprime to this OS.
I'm quite inclined to suspect that mprime would just compile right over for
Solaris.I don't know how the assembly is handled (is it intel syntax, or
My 'personal report' shows 'exponents returned since last synchronization'
going back nearly 12 months (November 2000). Has it really been a year
since primenet synched with George's master database?!?
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I've had similar problems with a few other multimedia sorts of
junkware. Near as I can tell, some of these things put their video or
animation thread at Idle_Priority+1 or something, and it gets eaten
alive by Prime95.
Isn't it the old problem - no matter what priority a process is
Still the only time I've ever seen Prime95/NTPrime slow down a system is
when I was doing some Netmeeting video conferences.
With it running, the video conference would run DOG slow. Stop the
NTPrime service and curiously had to restart the video conference for the
effect, but the video would
Presumably a badly written Linux driver
can cause the same problems as a badly written Windows driver.
Yes. There is however a subtle difference. Linux drivers come with
source code, so if there is a bug, any competent programmer can
fix it.
very very few programmers are qualified to
Is there a way to install Prime95 and Firedeamon without having these
problems? I hope that a solution can be found soon, as we try to
integrate prime95 into the image file from where all the workstations
are set up.
I'm unaware of what Firedaemon really is, but to me, it sounds like some
Maybe we're not understanding what is meant by microcode... The only CPU
I've designed was a 4-bit system that didn't use microcode to get it's work
done (it was for a class), so I can't claim direct experience, but I at
least thought I knew what the word microcode implied... a level of
There's something a bit screwy about the way your messages are encapsulated
here, when I recieve them the message body is appearing as an .txt
attachment. I haven't seen that happen from anyone elses mail (and I get a
lot of email from numerous lists). MIME formatted mail is generally bad on
Such an outage didn´t occur for the first time in my (nearly)
three years supporting GIMPS and others will follow. May be that´s
one reason why GIMPS lost about 8.000 to 9.000 machines during the last
six months.
I dunno, I've let about 1/2 my machines drop out, they were mostly p133 and
I stepped away from my machine at 99.92% completion of its iterations,
and when I came back it was 0.04% into processing the next number. Is
there some way I can see what happened? Some sort of log file?
results.txt in the prime95 directory.
I feel it is ridiculous that George has to beg/borrow the latest
architecture in order to optimise Prime95. I also know from being a member
of the prime search community for the last three years the amount of hard
work George puts into the project.
agreed. how come AMD isn't burying George
You may have heard that our so-called Governor, here in the
great state of Taxifornia has proposed replacing rolling
blackouts with universal brownouts: reducing line voltage
about 10-15% on hot days this summer. Any guesses
at how that will effect a computer running GIMPS?
as long as the
I know very little about computer architecture, so please feel free to
shoot
me down if what follow is complete nonsense.
GIMPS clients use the spare capacity of the primary processing resource
within
any computer:- the CPU(s). But most modern PCs have another component
capable
of
This question pops up every once in a while. A few years ago I looked
through a postscript manual wondering how difficult it would be to build a
postscript file that crunched RC5 keys when a printer tried to render it.
postscript is essentially forth, after all. Trouble is, most postscript
I also noticed that the hard drive light blinks every second or so. Does
win98 agressively swap to disk like windows NT does, even when it's not
needed? At least for NT there was a magic registry hack to make it stop,
which I don't see in '98. I'm wondering if this is the cause of the
That is probably your problem. Your bus is only 66 mhz. You are not
able
to access your memory as fast as you want to process the data. I once
upgraded a 486 100Mhz to a 486 150Mhz (I think, it was a while ago) and
there was almost no change in the speed. I overclocked the memory bus
Fry's (a big local discount computer electronics chain) has a great
deal on build-it-yourself Athlons (US$ 350 for 1.2GHz CPU, MB, case,
floppy, ethernet card, 56K modem video card) so I'm going to take
the plunge.
those motherboards in those starter kits tend to be JUNK.
...
The
NO Mail lately, just wanted to know if the list is
active!
there's been a few postings a day on the average, about 20 total in the last
week.
I suspect your sub-scription somehow got un-sub-scripted :)
-jrp
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Hmm ... my comp has NO idle time anymore (8
even with prime95 running 24/7 on my Windows2000 system, it seems to come up
with a FEW idle cycles. I figure its when prime95 gets paged out or
something. I rebooted a couple of hours ago after photoshop blew up and
left the system kinda crispy, in
How does idle time accrue *to a process*? Idle time is when the CPU is not
executing any process.
in virtually every multitasking OS, there is a special "IDLE" process. This
is usually something as simple as...
idleloop:
HLT
JMP idleloop
and this process is
heh, a friend just ran this by me for my amusement, seems a
3rd friend has juno.com as heir ISP and juno just revised
their service agreement, embeeded in it was the following little
nugget...
2.5. You expressly permit and authorize Juno to (i) download to your
computer one or more pieces
I'm looking for a primality test program source code written in VB,
for fun and adventure. Just want to mess around a little. Searched a
little with no luck.
I'm afraid VB would be awfully slow at any sort of intensive numerical work
like this, and not very good with precision either, so I
Well there isn't a good reason why not, and there is already a counter
of sorts in the Message ID in the header, but it's not very human
readable.
Surely the list management software keeps a count of how many posts have
been sent out to the group, it's just a case of reading/writing that
Secondly, One *should* use some sort of thermally conductively compound
between your processor and heatsink. The truth of the matter is that the
joint made between the bare heat disapator on the processor (Using the
Socket7 type example since we are talking about the Cyrix MII 233
Checking your voltages temps while in the BIOS probably isn't a huge help
in this case. By the fact that you only have reboots after Prime95 has
been running for a bit indicates it's a problem that is occurring under
full load. In the BIOS screen your certainly not under any kind of
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 06:04:01PM -0600, Shane Amy Sanford wrote:
That is the kind of program you need to find for Linux
though.
I'm running lmsensors, but it appears like the values it reports are
somewhat off...
I've noted that various motherboards seem to require custom
On the way, 64 bits machines, with Thunderbird like, micro-decoded
and 8086-compatible, very performant and inexpensive. Intel
product, 8086-incompatible ...
the 86 architecture is a dinosaur, designed in 1978 to inherit features
of the 8080 which was designed in 1973, and needs to die.
486 ??
25-100MHz, factor of 4
Pentium 60 MHz - 200? MHz factor of 3.3
P55c (mmx) hit 233MHz, I believe, for almost 4X
other pentiums ??
P6 architecture (which includes PPro, P2 and P3),
166 - 1GHz+ (factor of 6+)
Today's mystery: I've found a case where adding a NOP instruction
speeds up the code by 9%. Not just a small loop, the 9% speedup
affects the entire 2nd pass of the FFT! As of now I have no theories
or explanations. Time to write some more code fragments to figure
it out.
I wonder
I wonder how many people are going to have P4s. Presently, the Athlon is
faster for most things, and cheaper. I don't know if the P4 will pull
ahead of AMD chips for most things, so will people buy them?
the P4 is likely gonna ramp up to 2GHz, 3Ghz and beyond faster and farther
than AMD can
My opinion is that it's better to have fewer correct results than to have
the central database poisoned by loads of "don't think it's prime, but the
user was overclocking" results, which of course cannot be distinguished from
perfect answers. I'd trade two unreliable answers for one honest
Is it just me, or have we not had a database sync for a long time between
George and primenet? my personal results file on primenet is showing values
going back to March...
Also, just noted this one...
11765981 73 F 9413069237925298809767 13-Dec-00 15:58 p3-500
its been so
One of the nicer things about the windoze implementation of mprime is
the facility to manually stop restart the program from the main
menu. It gives up its main workspace whilst suspended in this way,
though obviously retaining the relatively small resources belonging
to its process
I understand that the SSE2 instructions operate only on
64-bit (and 32-bit) floating point data, whereas the
FPU registers support 80-bit intermediate results.
I know this is a little off-topic, but how good is the P4 at integer
operations?
not that off topic at all. Integer
A question for readers. Prime95 currently uses about 8MB (exponent
around 11 million). How would you feel if the P4 optimized version
used 13MB? 23MB? 33MB?
my machines have anywheres from 128MB to 512MB, so a 32MB footprint would be
little problem.
When prime95 running my screen is always shaking.
Are you using a Dell Optiplex? This suffers from a design flaw in which the
onboard video out is placed adjacent to the CPU and picks up EMF from the
CPU when the CPU is doing heavy FPU work (such as factoring primes).
Its probably a
It is not really the OS (although UNIX does have a lot of nice tools for
this type of thing) it is wordpad that is not really the most capable text
editor.
If you are using Windows I would suggest you try TextPad which is
available
for 30 day evaluation from www.textpad.com.
another very
I am running Windows98 on a Pentium computer.
Recently, Prime95 started running at 8 seconds per iteration.
When I killed process Alogserv, it went back to running at
.28 seconds per iteration. What is this process, and how do I
get rid of it? Thanks.
not sure, but find the executable file
I'm using a P3-500E box at college to run mprime.
The relevant lines of the local.ini look like
LastEndDatesSent=967023734
RollingStartTime=968950008
RollingAverage=4000
CPUType=1
CPUSpeed=500
CPUHours=24
How come I get given only double-checks to do? I don't mind too much -- the
But, on the other hand, is amazingly much simpler (you can quite easily
write a
GIF reader in a couple hundred lines of C
and spend a few lawyer-years negotiating with Unisys over payments for use
of the Lempel-Ziv patents
If you are referring to Lynx, then it may be that Lynx has deceived the
webserver. If I recall correctly Lynx (at least of a few versions ago) told
webservers that it was netscape to avoid the server not sending the page.
oh, and on my personal webpile (along with a few other folks piles I
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