Re: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-27 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Torben Schlüntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking? So now we stick with the 79.3 million limit until somebody

SV: SV: SV: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-26 Thread Torben Schlntz
: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking? At 11:04 PM 11/25/02 +0100, =?utf-8?Q?Torben_Schl=C3=BCntz?= wrote: No, and I am not the GIMPS police. It would offcourse be quite easy simply to check all accounts having done 5+ years TF and having

SV: SV: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-25 Thread Torben Schlntz
-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Brian J. Beesley Sendt: lø 23-11-2002 13:23 This is not a particularly effective cheat; you still end up having to do significantly more than half of the computational work. Is there any evidence that this may be happening? No, and I am not the

Re: SV: SV: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-25 Thread Mary K. Conner
At 11:04 PM 11/25/02 +0100, =?utf-8?Q?Torben_Schl=C3=BCntz?= wrote: No, and I am not the GIMPS police. It would offcourse be quite easy simply to check all accounts having done 5+ years TF and having more than 0,6 years pr. foundfactor. On the other hand some accounts could be very old

Re: SV: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-25 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Torben Schlüntz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:04 PM Subject: SV: SV: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking? I'd rather not like the penalty/ punishment. A reward

Re: SV: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-23 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Saturday 23 November 2002 02:41, Torben Schlüntz wrote: [... snip ...] Sorry Nathan. It is my fault you read the IMHO paragraph in a wrong way. I meant I had that point of view UNTIL I discussed it.. As George argue: Nobody would do LL if a succesful TF was rewarded the same - he is

SV: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-22 Thread Torben Schlntz
Which remind me, to avoid the cheat possible, the award for finding a factor should be set somehow bigger than only the nearest 6x bits. Give a factor something like the full value of TFing it to 66 bit! IMHO the TF with a factor found should be equal to an LL; but I have already discussed

Re: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-21 Thread Russel Brooks
Mary K. Conner wrote: (B You get credit for your work doing factoring even if you're not finding (B factors. (B (BHas this changed? When I joined GIMPS a couple of years ago I (Bthough Factoring only counted when a factor was found. (B (BCheers... Russ (B (BDIGITAL FREEDOM! --

RE: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-21 Thread Aaron
I'm pretty sure 'twas always thus. I mean, even if you don't find a factor, you're still doing work and contributing to the cause. When I had my little incident a few years back (4 and a half years ago, can you believe it?), the prime service was stopped before a single one had finished it's LL

SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-21 Thread Torben Schlntz
this with George and he is afraid only factoring would be done if the award is that high. br tsc -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Russel Brooks Sendt: to 21-11-2002 23:13 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Emne: Re: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers

Re: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-21 Thread nrussell
--On Friday, November 22, 2002 12:31 AM +0100 =?utf-8?Q?Torben_Schl=C3=BCntz?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These days you get an assignment say 21.1xx.xxx and it will give you approximately 0.057 P90/y. Team_prime_rib has a calculator for the exact value you will get for any number you

RE: SV: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-21 Thread Aaron
When George originally created the list of candidate exponents, he eliminated tens of millions of composite exponents, and an infinite number of negative exponents, non-integer exponents, imaginary exponents, and prime exponents above the range of the program. Should he get credit

Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-20 Thread Russel Brooks
I have 3 pcs doing factoring. I have been checking my position (Bon the Primenet Top Producers Factoring list. I have noticed my (Bposition drifting up in the standing while I haven't found any (Bfactors. How does happen? (B (BWhen I was doing double checks I would move up when I finished

Re: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-20 Thread Mary K. Conner
At 11:27 PM 11/20/02 +, Russel Brooks wrote: I have 3 pcs doing factoring. I have been checking my position on the Primenet Top Producers Factoring list. I have noticed my position drifting up in the standing while I haven't found any factors. How does happen? You get credit for your

Re: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking?

2002-11-20 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Mary K. Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Mersenne: Drifting UP(!) in Top Producers ranking? At 11:27 PM 11/20/02 +, Russel Brooks wrote: I have 3 pcs doing factoring. I have been