Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-27 Thread Mary K. Conner
At 10:45 PM 1/26/03 +, Brian J. Beesley wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 19:55, Mary K. Conner wrote: [ big snip - lots of _very_ sensible ideas!!! ] Primenet, and Primenet should preferentially give work over 64 bits to SSE2 clients, and perhaps direct others to factor only up to 64

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-26 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Sunday 26 January 2003 19:55, Mary K. Conner wrote: [ big snip - lots of _very_ sensible ideas!!! ] Primenet, and Primenet should preferentially give work over 64 bits to SSE2 clients, and perhaps direct others to factor only up to 64 bits unless there aren't enough SSE2 clients to

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-25 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Saturday 25 January 2003 02:07, John R Pierce wrote: But, no, you won't be able to complete a 10M on a P100 ;-) my slowest machine still on primenet is a p150 that has 60 days to finish 14581247, its been working on it for about 300 days now, 24/7, with nearly zero downtime. 2.22 seconds

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-25 Thread Eric Hahn
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 22:50, Richard Woods wrote: Here's what I've just posted in the GIMPS Forum. - - - _IF_ PrimeNet has automatic time limits on assignments, ordinarily requiring no manual intervention to expire assignments or re-assign them, then why would any GIMPS participant,

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-25 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I participate in other distributed_computing projects as well. Though I personally could care less about the statistics of any project, I notice that there is an entire subculture focused on tracking one's own work vs. that of the other participants. My proposal is simple -- If someone poaches

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-24 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Friday 24 January 2003 02:27, Richard Woods wrote: Let's put it this way: Maybe you don't give a fig for fame, but some of the rest of us do. A chance at real, honest-to-gosh mathematical fame has a value not measurable in CPU years, but poaching steals that. So what we want is a

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-24 Thread Nathan Russell
--On Friday, January 24, 2003 8:59 PM + Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think perhaps what may be needed is a new rule that users who don't complete assignments in a reasonable period of time (say 1 year?) should lose the right to the assignment, even if they do check in

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-24 Thread Anurag Garg
I think perhaps what may be needed is a new rule that users who don't complete assignments in a reasonable period of time (say 1 year?) should lose the right to the assignment, even if they do check in regularly. Does this apply to 10M assignments? As George proposed on the GIMPS forums

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-24 Thread John R Pierce
But, no, you won't be able to complete a 10M on a P100 ;-) my slowest machine still on primenet is a p150 that has 60 days to finish 14581247, its been working on it for about 300 days now, 24/7, with nearly zero downtime. 2.22 seconds per iteration, yikes. I probably should retire this box

RE: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-23 Thread Richard Woods
I sometimes make forecasts about number of exponents in some ranges to be checked in in particular periods. Just for fun. So the system administrators could either (a) provide you the password for the full version of the assignments report, or (b) produce a report with aggregate data that is

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-23 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 22:50, Richard Woods wrote: Here's what I've just posted in the GIMPS Forum. - - - _IF_ PrimeNet has automatic time limits on assignments, ordinarily requiring no manual intervention to expire assignments or re-assign them, then why would any GIMPS participant,

Re: Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-23 Thread Richard Woods
Brian J. Beesley wrote: Sure. So would eliminating the report altogether. 1) Exaggeration is unnecessary. My proposal was not that extreme. :) 2) After much discussion on the GIMPS forum, I've withdrawn my current proposal (which had been extended from the initial one I sent to this mailing

Mersenne: Poaching -- Discouragement thereof

2003-01-22 Thread Richard Woods
Here's what I've just posted in the GIMPS Forum. - - - _IF_ PrimeNet has automatic time limits on assignments, ordinarily requiring no manual intervention to expire assignments or re-assign them, then why would any GIMPS participant, other than a system administrator or a would-be poacher,