Mersenne: A couple quick questions

2000-02-25 Thread Nathan Russell
I just joined GIMPS (now 6% done testing a number with exponent just short of 10M if it makes a difference) and I have been looking into the theory behind Mersenne primes. Can anyone show me or at least point me to a webpage with the proof that the exponent of a Mersenne prime must be

Re: Mersenne: Manual Use of Primenet

2000-02-27 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: Manual Use of Primenet Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:56:48 -0500 I've got a possible glitch report regarding the manual use of Primenet which may be useful, and a couple of comments. I run

Mersenne: How much are the 10 M gamblers contributing?

2000-03-02 Thread Nathan Russell
Something I've been wondering about since entering this project - How much are the people who are trying to find a 10 million digit prime contributing to the search? They stand less than a tenth the ordinary chance per unit time, and any prime they find will take at least four or five years

Re: Mersenne: searching the biggies

2000-03-02 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Spike Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: searching the biggies Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:49:36 -0800 Nathan Russell asked: How much are the people who are trying to find a 10 million digit prime contributing to the search? Any

RE: Mersenne: searching the biggies 2

2000-03-03 Thread Nathan Russell
From: "Aaron Blosser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mersenne@Base. Com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Mersenne: searching the biggies 2 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:33:23 -0700 On the other hand, the existence of the EFF prize is a useful tool in convincing companies to run GIMPS, for most IT

Re: Mersenne: Re: How much are the 10 M gamblers contributing?

2000-03-03 Thread Nathan Russell
From: "Dave Mullen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: Re: How much are the 10 M gamblers contributing? Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 17:42:02 +0800 Perhaps I'm a little under-speed here ... I understood that the $100,000 award was for the first 10 million digit (that is to

Re: Mersenne: searching the biggies

2000-03-03 Thread Nathan Russell
From: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Nathan Russell" [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: searching the biggies Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 11:39:44 -0500 Hi, At 11:42 PM 3/2/00 -0500, Nathan Russell wrote: Nathan Russell asked: How much are the people who

Re: Mersenne: searching the biggies

2000-03-03 Thread Nathan Russell
From: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Nathan Russell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: searching the biggies Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:32:10 -0500 Hi, I don't honestly think I would have the patience to run 10 M tests, Me too. 1 year for a 1 in 250,000 chance -

Re: Mersenne: searching the biggies

2000-03-03 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Jukka Tapani Santala [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: searching the biggies Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:19:56 +0200 (EET) On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Nathan Russell wrote: Two of their other projects lost GIMPS-years of work each

Re: Mersenne: 386SX

2000-03-04 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Walt Mankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mersenne discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: 386SX Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:01:51 -0500 (much snippage) It might be able to work on one of the distributed.net projects. I don't *think* the rc5 stuff uses floating point. It

RE: Mersenne: V20 beta

2000-03-17 Thread Nathan Russell
have cached in case of such interruptions? Currently I'm set through May 9. Nathan Russell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.

Mersenne: M 10133741

2000-03-17 Thread Nathan Russell
In a scan of the PrimeNet status page (http://www.entropia.com/primenet/status.txt) I noticed that this exponent was due to expire sometime around last Halloween. Is there a bug in the server? Is the owner a QA person who is being given some leniency? If so, why is the server being used?

Mersenne: Re: Possible V20 issue

2000-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell
From: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Nathan Russell" [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Possible V20 issue Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:03:06 -0500 Hi, At 05:46 PM 3/20/00 -0500, Nathan Russell wrote: I have noticed that, when I finish t

Mersenne: Possible V20 issue

2000-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell
y expected. I feel that this is an issue that should be resolved before v 20 is offered as a public release, even in resolving it means just adding a line to the output so that others are not confused as I have been. Respectfully, Nathan Russell __ Get Your

Mersenne: IRC?

2000-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell
to their questions, and more experienced participants could have their concerns addressed or debate issues without inconviencing those who have no immediate interest. Nathan Russell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Mersenne: Another Conjecture?

2000-03-22 Thread Nathan Russell
means let me know. Regards, Nathan Russell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime

Mersenne: Milestone?: All assignment through 10 M claimed

2000-03-22 Thread Nathan Russell
that compliments go to us all. Regards, Nathan Russell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Re: Mersenne: (getting OT) IRC?

2000-03-23 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Jukka Santala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: IRC? Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:01:04 +0200 That's not a problem, it's the purpose of IRC... ;) Regardless, I've (intermittently) keeping up the channel #Mersenne on DALnet IRC network

Re: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring

2000-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
t machines that can easily do LL work has chosen to not only do factoring, but to cache an amount of factoring work that would normally take GIMPS as a whole months to finish. Regards, Nathan Russell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.h

Re: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring

2000-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
After this is resolved, should all of us use the manual pages to get rid of our factoring assignments and get new, lower ones? I know that I, for one, have two factoring assignments saved up just to provide a bit of variety between tests Regards, Nathan Russell

RE: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring

2000-03-26 Thread Nathan Russell
I appologize for the misunderstanding. The reason I was upset was not because you used ten machines to do factoring. Even two hundred machines doing factoring would not have changed the overall balance of GIMPS much. At the time of my message, I thought that you had deliberately gotten

RE: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring

2000-03-26 Thread Nathan Russell
er month. Going on vacation? No problem. Your machine grabs, say, 100 assignments out of its quote for the month and it's set for three or four months. Just so we know, how long would it take a 1.5 Ghz Athlon to factor 100 assignments through 64 bits? In view of Moore's Law, that's about w

RE: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring

2000-03-26 Thread Nathan Russell
From: "Brian J. Beesley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Nathan Russell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:57:51 - What about this: 300 assignments per month. Going on vacation? No

Re: Mersenne: The Recent Popularity of Factoring

2000-03-27 Thread Nathan Russell
t the time, factoring thousands of exponents without a good reason. Trying to sound sane, Nathan Russell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _ Unsubscribe list in

RE: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring

2000-03-27 Thread Nathan Russell
From: "Brian J. Beesley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Geoffrey Faivre-Malloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Mersenne: The recent popularity of Factoring Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:39:15 - Geoffrey Faivre-Malloy wrote: Stuff that we've already gone over and dabated for a few

Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News

2000-03-30 Thread Nathan Russell
From: "Halliday, Ian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aaron Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: "Mersenne@Base. Com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:29:22 +1200 This brings to mind a question I have been considering for a

Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News

2000-03-30 Thread Nathan Russell
From: "Frank_A_L_I_N_Y" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Stefan Struiker" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: "James Escamilla" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:23:34 -0500 what aobut the fact that our tests will take longer

Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News

2000-03-31 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Bryon Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:01:53 1. To the average person, aliens are a lot "sexier" than prime numbers. Anyone can picture little green men from Mars, but it takes a special person to

Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News

2000-04-02 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Yvan Dutil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:45:22 +0100 Well, I think the diffence of culture between the people of GIMPS and those of SETI@Home can be illustred simply by the comparaison of subject of

Re: Mersenne: poorly factored exponents

2000-04-06 Thread Nathan Russell
answer this for you. BTW, I'm a relative newbie here, and any/all of the info I have given you may be incorrect. Regards, Nathan Russell __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Mersenne: ECM time needed?

2000-04-07 Thread Nathan Russell
this information anywhere. Thanks, Nathan Russell, unofficial GIMPS pet newbie :-) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke

Mersenne: Another ECM question

2000-04-09 Thread Nathan Russell
To start with, thanks to all those who answered my first question. What I want to know is as follows: If no factors are found for an exponent after running the needed curves for a 55 digit factor, what is done? Are additional curves run, or is that exponent put aside to await improvements in

Re: Mersenne: status page confusion

2000-04-19 Thread Nathan Russell
It certainly did help me! So, why are only certain ranges listed on the PrimeNet status page? For example, from time to time, their front page has failed to list the 'cutting edge' of PrimeNet factoring assignments. As a somewhat related question, when an apparent double-checking milestone

Re: Mersenne: V20 beta #4 (will the beta never end?)

2000-04-20 Thread Nathan Russell
From: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "David Campeau" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: V20 beta #4 (will the beta never end?) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:43:46 -0400 Hi, At 07:47 AM 4/20/00 -0400, David Campeau wrote: Seeing that not every time a stage 1 gcd will

Mersenne: Sorry for the double post

2000-04-20 Thread Nathan Russell
Well, it wasn't strictly a double post - my browser crashed just as I was sending the second, and I wasn't sure whether it'd been sent, so I rewrote it. Nathan __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: Mersenne: 65 bits (was Re: factoring)

2000-04-20 Thread Nathan Russell
(much snippage dealing with factoring on behalf of non-PC machines) Then again, if one turned a MP machine to factoring, GIMPS might soon run out of factoring assignments, which would not please those with 486s and other slower CPUs whose only useful contribution to GIMPS is factoring. Cheers,

Mersenne: Version ID Buglet

2000-04-25 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi, I was just checking my account report. I have always kept about 2 weeks of double checking assignments in case my QA work finishes and I am unable to get more for some reason. Those assignments that I have checked out with v20 (some combination of betas #2-4 I believe) state on the

Re: Mersenne: Priority double-checking

2000-04-28 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi, At Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:11:58 -0400 George Woltman explained: What I do is just re-issue them as first time tests. The last time I did this was roughly six months ago. I don't feel very guilty about this as there is about a 50% chance the first test was no good and these exponents

Mersenne: d.net IRC channel

2000-05-02 Thread Nathan Russell
I have been talking with the distributed.net IRC channel, #distributed on EFnet. I am known there as Trekkie. I've been telling them about the greater chance of a successful result. The channel operators are okay with this, and it's provoking a lively discussion. If anyone wants to join

Re: Mersenne: Round off errors

2000-05-04 Thread Nathan Russell
have been unclear, these errors are in no way due to a hardware problem with your machine, so there is no need to worry about that. Best regards, Nathan Russell Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.h

Re: Mersenne: The sound of M(M(19)) (NEW)

2000-05-07 Thread Nathan Russell
From: "Brian J. Beesley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Nathan Russell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: The sound of M(M(19)) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 08:58:21 - Much more likely to be related to a resonance with the speed at which the FFT works at

Mersenne: Milestones?

2000-05-09 Thread Nathan Russell
If the PrimeNet assignments reports are to be believed, we have double-checked all exponents through 3M and proven M(2976221) and M(3021377) to be respectively the 36th and 37th primes in numeric order. Nathan Get Your

Re: Mersenne: Milestones?

2000-05-09 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Jeff Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: Milestones? Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 12:37:31 -0400 We still have a handful of exponents to go. I was looking at the server's assignments out pages. I guess the assignments in question must be non-PrimeNet.

Re: Mersenne: time needed for factoring

2000-05-17 Thread Nathan Russell
takes longer for hardware-related reasons that appear in the list archives a week or two back, IIRC. Regards Nathan Russell Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Mersenne: The recent popularity of Single-Checking

2000-05-24 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi all, There is a user, "sd70045", who has almost 100 single-checkingassignments out on a single machine ID. These would take a state-of-the-art box well over two years to finish. Additionally, these assignments have almost identical figures for time to complete etc. The first exponent in

Mersenne: Error

2000-05-25 Thread Nathan Russell
I just got this in an ECM run on M(10079). What does it mean? Is something wrong with my machine? [Thu May 25 15:00:24 2000] ECM found a factor in curve #263, stage #2 Sigma=1155032128984, B1=25, B2=2500. ERROR: Factor doesn't divide N! Nathan

Mersenne: Errors

2000-05-26 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi everyone, George contacted me and stated that he was unable to recreate the error and suspects that it was a one-time fluke; he wants me to let him know if it recurs. This is the first error I have had on the machine, so I am not concerned. Thanks to all who gave advice. Nathan P.S. I

Re: Mersenne: Error

2000-05-26 Thread Nathan Russell
"Brian J. Beesley" wrote: There was a problem with some versions which resulted in this error message appearing constantly. I think the problem was related to a factor which was already known being found again - this happens constantly but should be resolved by reference to the low?.txt

Re: Mersenne: memory limits

2000-05-26 Thread Nathan Russell
The memory setting is only relevant for P-1 factoring, not for LL-testing or classical factoring. Kind Regards, Martijn It should probably be added that additional memory actually only makes P-1 go to higher bounds, thereby increasing the chance of avoiding an LL test. It will do little or

Re: Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still Broken

2000-06-07 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Stefan Struiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still "Broken" Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 06:14:38 -0700 To All: In the server transition, the Manual Testing Forms still seem to be broken. Can't UNreserve exponents, for example. Best

Re: Mersenne: CPU hours

2000-06-07 Thread Nathan Russell
page doesn't presently list a P90, so you might try linear interpolation or use the handy java applet. Happy testing, Nathan Russell Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

RE: Mersenne: What's happening?

2000-06-08 Thread Nathan Russell
ced chance of finding a prime. Regards, Nathan Russell Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com _ Unsubscribe list in

Re: Mersenne: Account inconsistency

2000-06-08 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Paul Leyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: Account inconsistency Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:33:05 -0700 Can anyone explain this inconsistency in what the server believes the MSRC account has done? I have a hunch, but it could be wrong. If a double-checker

Re: Mersenne: Double Checking

2000-06-11 Thread Nathan Russell
Stefan Struiker asked: Is a single Double Check always enough to retire an exponent? Regards, Stefanovic IIRC, George compares the residues once per week of all the double-checks compared that ween when he updates the database. If they don't match, then either one or both of the previous

Mersenne: Pointers on farming

2000-06-16 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi all, In order to learn hardware before leaving for college, I have taken a full-time job at a local computer recycling place. Since I will be attending college on a rather nice scholarship, I will have more money than I am likely to need in the immediate future; through my work, I will

Re: Mersenne: Factoring Assignments: Are They Always First-Time?

2000-06-17 Thread Nathan Russell
From: Jeff Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: Factoring Assignments: Are They Always "First-Time?" Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:14:00 -0400 At 01:00 PM 6/17/00 -0700, you wrote: (snip) If a factor is found for an exponent, it's eliminated from further testing

Re: Mersenne: 65-Bit Factors Of The Factor= Stripe

2000-07-06 Thread Nathan Russell
Stefan Struiker wrote: Zdrastie! Where would I look to find 65-bit factors found during "Factor=" Trial Factoring? I see that P-1 Factoring has turned up some absolute whoppers! Best Wishes, Stefanovic I don't know what to tell you. One of the current weaknesses in PrimeNet is that

Re: Mersenne: Error 11: exponent already tested!?!

2000-07-24 Thread Nathan Russell
For those unaware of this PrimeNet feature: To extend an assignment or assignments up to 120 days, see: http://www.mersenne.org/ips/manualtests.html "Extend Exponent Assignments" toward the bottom of the page! Best Wishes, Stefanovic It should possibly be added that one does not

Re: Mersenne: Prime95 shutdown mystery.

2000-07-26 Thread Nathan Russell
Bruce A Metcalf wrote: At 08:13 AM 7/26/00 -0700, Bob Margulies wrote: I have just finished a case (M9836773) and expected Prime 95 (version 20.6, running under Win 98) to begin another. Instead I have the message "This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down."

Re: Mersenne: Prime Time: L-L Test Doesn't Exist?

2000-11-12 Thread Nathan Russell
To be fair, the quote says that it is difficult to determine the primarlity of 'a given large number'. Only an infentesimal fraction of arbitrary large numbers are Mersenne, or other special forms like 'Proth' primes. Nathan xqrpa wrote: To All: In case you missed the article "Prime

Re: Mersenne: Compressing Prime95

2000-11-27 Thread Nathan Russell
Jeramy Ross wrote: This 'Wonderful' compression technology maybe "Awesome"; however, MY main objection or perhaps philosophy towards all of this is that Prime95 is not a large piece of code. It takes a relatively small amount of time to download over a modem compared to other

Re: Mersenne: More on Compression

2000-11-28 Thread Nathan Russell
I can see something like this being worth it for a very large executable - this summer, I was forced to download the Sun JDK over a 56k modem. It wasn't fun. However, the question we must consider is whether saving space in a 1-meg executable is worth the extra trouble for all concerned, as

Re: Mersenne: Factoring

2000-12-01 Thread Nathan Russell
Paul Leyland wrote: We could let prime95 decide the next election grin. Give everybody a different prime number. Multiply the primes for candidate A together, likewise for B. And like in this election, unless we can completely factor the results, we wouldn't know who won,

Mersenne: 2000 - first calender year without a Mersenne

2000-12-31 Thread Nathan Russell
Well, unless there is an announcement within the next few hours, 2000 will be the first calender year in the history of GIMPS without a Mersenne prime. Is the number of searchers, and the power of their hardware, increasing enough to keep up with the increased runtimes and (slightly) decreased

Mersenne: Shutdown script for mprime

2000-12-31 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows of a script to shut down mprime and make sure the save files are finished saving before SIGKILL is sent in the shutdown process. In terms of starting it up, I now have a line in my inittab file to start it whenever the system enters runlevel 5, and run it

Re: Mersenne: idea for a new prime95 version, QA, primenet etc

2001-02-03 Thread Nathan Russell
Jeff Woods wrote: At 04:48 PM 2/3/01 -0500, you wrote: After hanging around the Anandtech DC forum for awhile, I'm convinced that this completion time "problem" might be GIMPS biggest hurdle to getting more participation. Very few "loonies" like us are willing to wait 14 months for

Re: Mersenne: idea for a new prime95 version

2001-02-03 Thread Nathan Russell
Alexander Kruppa wrote: "Brian J. Beesley" wrote: Some people have indicated they'd like a version of the program with a pretty screen-saver interface. Fair enough, provided we can keep the "classic" version without the extra overhead. The screen-saver idea is important for another

Re: Mersenne: idea for a new prime95 version, QA, primenet etc

2001-02-03 Thread Nathan Russell
Ken Kriesel wrote: At 09:23 AM 2/3/2001 -, "Brian J. Beesley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George has announced the development of new FFT code optimised for Pentium 4. The FFT code is the true heart of the program: it's really hard for me to put into words just how much we all owe to

Re: Mersenne: Re: screen savers

2001-02-09 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:56:26 EST, you wrote: Just my 2 cents' worth with respect to the screen saver proposals: how about the following? 1) (This is along the lines of the popular "swarm of bees" screensaver) Have some bee (or other - perhaps allow the user to choose from a menu) icons move

Mersenne: P4 speed and implications thereof

2001-02-11 Thread Nathan Russell
Let's assume that the P4 is, as George estimates, capable of doing the 512K FFT at 0.04 iterations per second. In this case, with some back-of-the-envelope calculations, I estimate that a thousand P4s (which might well be on PrimeNet in a year, or a little more - the P4 is approaching the

Re: Mersenne: P4 speed and implications thereof

2001-02-11 Thread Nathan Russell
Jud, you wrote: I wonder how many people are going to have P4s. Presently, the Athlon is faster for most things, and cheaper. I don't know if the P4 will pull ahead of AMD chips for most things, so will people buy them? My understanding is that they are designed to perform well for

Re: Mersenne: P4 speed and implications thereof

2001-02-12 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:29:01 -0500, you wrote: This frankly makes me wonder how much longer there will be a place in GIMPS for slower machines. I'm not saying that's a bad thing - after all, 486s and original pentiums were the workforce when GIMPS began, and I wouldn't feel comfortable with the

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:42:17 -0800, you wrote: This is mildly amusing. http://radified.com/Overclocking/oldest_overclocker.htm read the text below the picture, specifically, the 3rd paragraph :) -jrp This reminded me of a discussion I had with a friend. He mentioned he used SETI: "Ever

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:24:36 -0600, you wrote: I for one found my way to the Prime95 project through overclocking. In the OCing community Prime95 has been considered the single best stress test tool available for some time now (especially when used in conjunction with a game that makes heavy

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:02:09 -, Brian Beesley wrote: I know what you mean ... but the fact is there's no such thing as _bad_ publicity. True enough. However I do wonder how much of the recycling of expired exponents is due to people picking up Prime95 just to run a hardware test. The

Re: Mersenne: hah

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
a 300 MHz PII takes about half as long to run as a typical LL assignment on a 1.2 GHz Athlon. Personally I don't feel this is unreasonable. Of course, the 1.2 Ghx Athlon is right at the top of the "state of the art", while systems well slower than a PII are stil

Re: Mersenne: [Mersenne] WorkToDo file

2001-02-18 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:31:50 -0500, Jud McCranie wrote: I've edited my WorkToDo file to put the tests in order so that the ones that take the least time will be done first. Will my doing this mess anything up? Not to my knowledge. The one thing to be careful of, however, is that if you have

Re: Mersenne: Ways to increase recruitment.

2001-03-11 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:03:47 -0500, Joshua Zelinsky wrote: The vast majority of computers still aren't doing any form of distributed computing. Here are a few suggestions to help increase GIMPS participation: 1. Get people at major universities + colleges to become "active recruiters,"

Re: Mersenne: Security of prime95 + electricity costs.

2001-03-11 Thread Nathan Russell
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:32:03 +0100, Martijn Kruithof wrote: I have verified the possibility of a buffer overflow exploit in primenet.c (used in linuxs mprime) It seems NOT vurneralbe (so it seems safe to me) NO buffer overflow is likely to occur. Notwithstanding I am running mprime as user

Re: Mersenne: Security of prime95 + electricity costs.

2001-03-11 Thread Nathan Russell
. However many laptops appear to turn on an extra cooling fan almost immediately a program which makes use of the FPU starts. My desktop does the same - the sound changes noticably when a distributed computing program is running. Nathan Russell

Mersenne: Soft modem

2000-10-04 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi all, I have noticed significantly better Prime95 times here at school than I did at home. On a hunch, I checked the hardware lists on the web, and I have what by all accounts is a software modem. Both to get the Prime95 times at home back up, and since I plan to put on a dual boot, I

Re: Mersenne: Slow iterations

2000-10-09 Thread Nathan Russell
Hi Dave, You wrote: I am running Windows98 on a Pentium computer. Recently, Prime95 started running at 8 seconds per iteration. When I killed process Alogserv, it went back to running at .28 seconds per iteration. What is this process, and how do I get rid of it? Thanks.

Re: Mersenne: New exponents and P4 update

2001-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:17:02 -0500, George Woltman wrote: Hi all, As promised, the server now has about 1000 small exponents to give out for triple-checks. Out of curiousity, am I the only one who, while running triple-checks by arrangement

Re: Mersenne: First illegal prime?

2001-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell
ddenly start selling videotapes for the Betamax VCR. Regards Brian Beesley Nathan Russell -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOrfq1IvPBwdDF2xqEQKDdgCeJhTSRtZD3bW+im46//1Ye7hkmCcAoL4n PFTvO4XgT1LaUfvTuSG+RBP4 =MQax --

Re: Mersenne: Re: phew, one way to get cycles...

2001-03-21 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:57:13 +0100, Steiner wrote: Now, I wonder what this juno.com _is_... and how they possibly could get anybody to accept that. Looking at their pages, they look like an ISP -- but how could possibly their Internet connection be

Re: Mersenne: Re: Getting new GIMPSers

2001-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:09:02 +0200, Steiner wrote: On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 10:03:01AM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: How does idle time accrue *to a process*? Idle time is when the CPU is not executing any process. Just like the brain, your computer

Re: Mersenne: First illegal prime?

2001-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:10:06 -, Brian J. Beesley wrote (re gray bits): This is an example of the sort of "copy protection" I find acceptable, because I can make as many perfect copies as I like for my own use; nonetheless the copies can be

Re: Mersenne: First illegal prime?

2001-03-25 Thread Nathan Russell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:12:49 -, Brian J. Beesley wrote: On 20 Mar 2001, at 18:42, Nathan Russell wrote: Slashdot takes a particular interest in this program because many of their editors and members believe that CSS is an infringment

Re: Mersenne: problems with Solaris nice

2001-03-31 Thread Nathan Russell
On Saturday 31 March 2001 03:09, Brian J. Beesley wrote: On 30 Mar 2001, at 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: processes are running. However, under Solaris, something run at priority 19 still tends to get a not-insignificant share of CPU time - a typical number is 15% on a system with one

Re: Mersenne: A question about ECM

2001-04-10 Thread Nathan Russell
Regards, Tobias Nathan Russell _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers

Re: Mersenne: Another question about ECM

2001-04-10 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 14:20, you wrote: Hi and thank you mr Leyland for the reply I have another question. If you are doing ECM factoring on a Fermat number with prime95 should you check the "Factor 2^N+1" box, since "Every factor of a Fermat number fermat(n) has the form 2^(n+2) * k +

Re: Mersenne: PrimeNet vulnerable to client misconfiguration?

2001-04-16 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:53:33 +0200, Martijn Kruithof wrote: Hello, if that what you describe is the problem the solution is obvious If a client checked out an (set of) exponent(s) and has not returned it yet just re-assign that same (set of) exponent(s). The problem is that the two machines

Re: Mersenne: Is there any life here?

2001-04-16 Thread Nathan Russell
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:40:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO Mail lately, just wanted to know if the list is active! We're here, all right! Nathan _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm

Re: Mersenne: Juno Warning

2001-04-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:49:49 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: "Should I be worried about Juno downloading data and software to my computer?" No. Juno has been downloading data and software to your computer since the day you first subscribed. Gotta give 'em credit for being honest. Dang, I

Re: Mersenne: Juno Warning [Somewhat OT]

2001-04-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:25:45 -0400, Vincent Mooney wrote: Someone on this list earlier warned about Juno using subscriber's computers. Here is a portion of the current Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project data. (BIG snip) No. Juno has been downloading data and software to your computer since

Re: Mersenne: Juno Warning [Somewhat OT]

2001-04-17 Thread Nathan Russell
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:25:04 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: From time to time, we also download new versions of the Juno software to bring your version up to date, and we expect to download new scientific software from time to time as part of the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project. NO mention

Re: [Fwd: Re: Mersenne: Distributed Computing Mandatory For Juno's Free Users]

2001-04-20 Thread Nathan Russell
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:15:13 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: perhaps just have Prime95 update some SNMP counters... I think it'd be "neato" to use MRTG to track various counters of the machines I have running Prime95/NTPrime. Then you're just offloading the task of doing charts and stuff to some

Mersenne: [slightly OT] Web discussion about distributed computing

2001-04-22 Thread Nathan Russell
I just posted an article on one of my favorite discussion boards, known as Half-Empty, about distributed computing, asking people on the site to vote for, and post comments about, their favorite project. http://www.half-empty.org/servlet/LoadPage?pageID=ideaideaid=1644sortmode=3viewmode=3 I

Re: Mersenne: [slightly OT] Web discussion about distributed computing

2001-04-23 Thread Nathan Russell
(Sprry Spike, I mistyped the list address the first time on the copy i sent to you) On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:37:11 -0700, Spike Jones wrote: Nathan Russell wrote: http://www.half-empty.org/servlet/LoadPage?pageID=ideaideaid=1644sortmode=3viewmode=3 I thought the prime community might want

Re: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #843

2001-04-25 Thread Nathan Russell
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:34:07 +0200 (MET DST), Hans Riesel wrote: Hi everybody, If 2^p-1 is known to be composite with no factor known, then so is 2^(2^p-1)-1. For that matter, the same argument can be made with regard to 2^(2^R-1)-2 for some RSA factoring challange number R, and probably

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