Mark writes:
The fact is that dinosaur fossils are not found at the k-T boundary. One has
to go 9-10 ft at best, below the boundary to find dinosaur bones in any of
the beds that contain dinosaur fossils. This represents a substantial period
of time prior to the impact layer. This is why it is
Subject: A Nininger Moment 4
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:12:56 -0500
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Two nights before the Nininger party reached Mexico City while trying to
set up camp, several unfriendly characters approached them. They managed
to catch
Mark Miconi wrote:
If there have been Stoney Meteorites found
there, what is the ratio of Stoney to Iron?
Hello Mark, Norbert, and List,
Presently there are 581 Australian meteorites in
my database (up to Met.Bull. #86 the updating of
which I still haven't finished yet).
a) 485 out of 581
G'day Norbert List,
The outback sure is a great place to grab a few meteorites. Maybe just as
good as NWA. But you are correct in what you've said about the tough
Australian laws. I should point out though, that I read not so long ago that
Alex Bevan at the Western Australia Museum has quite an
Hi List, I know you have all have been doing alot of meteorite
identification lately but i would like your opinions on this one. I just
returned from Mexico where i met an elderly man who believes he has a
meteorite. He witnessed it fall while working in the hills as a miner 20
years ago and he
To those of you who have read my posts, I know that It's obvious that I lack
the profound meteroritical knowledge I'm observing as I brouse through the
wealth of information available on this list. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a
scientist. I haven't even found my first meteorite yet. I'm just
Hi List, I know you have all have been doing alot of
meteoriteidentification lately but i would like your opinions on this one. I
justreturned from Mexico where i met an elderly man who believes he has
ameteorite. He witnessed it fall while working in the hills as a miner
20years ago and he
For me is meteorite, have the matrix type Mocs or
Alfianello, probably a L chondrite. The fusion crust
is tipycal of a meteorite and the same the shock
cracks. Nice piece.
regards
Matteo
--- Robert Cucchiara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi List, I know you have all have been doing alot
of
Robert Cucchiara wrote:
I just returned from Mexico where i met an elderly
man who believes he has a meteorite. He witnessed
it fall while working in the hills as a miner 20
years ago and he says it sounded like an airplane
approaching.
Hi Bob and List,
This is definitely a meteorite!
I agree with Matteo. I do believe I see chondrules in the milky matrix. It
would be great to see an image of a polished section and, better yet, a thin
section.
The crust does not appear too thick. I have pieces of zag with crust that
might be as thick.
Cheers,
Mike Tettenborn
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Rand Kluge wrote:
Does anyone know about the Benben stone? You know,
the oriented meteorite from which ancient Egyptians
believe bore the beginnings of life to this planet.
Hi Rand and List,
There was a discussion thread about the Benben
stone in May 2001. As I don't know if it is still
in
There are a number of factors that cause the proportion of irons to vary
from place to place. Four important ones are frequency of pairing
of finds, human cultural effects, differential weathering rates, and
recognizability.
Places like NWA produce many, many separately numbered meteorites that
Bob,
Nice meteorite! This is one of the few times I can recall that the
photo(s) in question was not a wrong! Wahoo!
Best,
ken
Robert Cucchiara wrote:
Hi List, I know you have all have been doing alot of meteorite
identification lately but i would like your opinions on this one. I
just
Hi Ron:
Yes it seems Mark needs to dig into the current literature on the subject a
bit more deeply. There are numerous references dealing with mammalian
species survival during and following the impact winter. Get on GEOREF and
search for K-T.
As for Fassett's discovery, he presented his
Norbert wrote:
There are more than a thousand
L's and H's just from NWA ...
Classified H chondrites: 156
Classified L chondrites: 146
Classified LL chondrites: 044
Classified C chondrites: 022
Classified R chondrites: 007
Classified achondrites:037
Classified iron meteorites:005
Hello List
I like to honor today Harvey Harlow Nininger, Who was born 116th years old
today.
He was Truly a man dedicated to the Teaching and Finding of Meteorites to
anyone who would listen to him.
I'll like to repostone ofBernd Pauli many post. I think it's
one of the Greatest Nininger
Does anyone know were I might find a cast of the Henbury meteorite?
Thank You,
Tim Heitz
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Hi Ron
on Fassett's abstract
Lot of assumptions here that paleontologists would be cautious to make.
Theres also a lack in the abstract about what condition the bones are in the
sandstone. He also states that there are layers, indicating multiple events
occurred in the formation of the layer(s)
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
January 13-17, 2003
o IR view of lava flows (Released 13 January 2003
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030113A.html
o Impact Crater (Released 14 January 2003)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030114a.html
o Southern Sand Dunes (Released 15 January 2003)
Rob wrote:
This is my last attempt to appeal to your sense of mathematical
reality. ... message bellow
Well, first I dont trust LOGIC, specially when it is based on statistical
data.
Logic is the tool of mind, and mind can be handicaped; because it looks (and
think it over) through the narrow
http://www2.dailycamera.com/bdc/environment/article/0,1713,BDC_2434_1677499,00.html
Asteroid theory gains ground
Impact probably did in the dinosaurs, new study says
By Katy Human
Daily Camera
January 16, 2003
Dinosaurs probably died because of an asteroid impact - the dust, dead plants
and
PREFolks.HE JUST DOESN'T GET IT.give up.
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http://www.canoe.ca/CalgaryNews/cs.cs-01-17-0036.html
Meteorite lights up city sky
By CHRIS MCKERRACHER
Calgary Sun
January 17, 2003
Calgarians can take comfort -- the flash seen in the northeastern sky
Wednesday night was not an invading alien squadron.
According to geologist Alan
Hello Mohamed,
You wrote: Well, first I dont trust LOGIC, specially when it is based on
statistical data.
If you do not trust logic that really leaves any conversation or facts that
may be pointed out to you rather meaningless in your eye.
If you do not trust statistical data, why did you
.In any case I dont really care about those statistics. What motivates me
is my own conclusion.
That pretty much sums it up Mohamed.
--
Rob Wesel
Rob wrote:
This is my last attempt to appeal to your sense of mathematical
reality. ... message bellow
Well, first I dont trust LOGIC,
Hi list,
Mohamed wants to find a lunar meteorite.
The first thing he does is quite good. He does neither search in a
forest nor in a wild mountain range.
He searches in the Oman desert, where it is
- easier to search and
- more likely to find a lunar (or a meteorite at all) than in most other
http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/news/011503/Local/ST002.shtml
Likely sonic boom still puzzles officials
Fourth such mysterious tremor since 1989 rattles region
Scott Streater
Pensacola News Journal (Florida)
January 15, 2003
The large boom that shook walls and windows from Century to
One has to be a lunatic to search the desert for moon rocks. But even if the odds are against you, that doesn't mean you won't ever find one. However i agree that it is very easy to delude yourself by seeing every other terran as a potential lunar. But it's great motivation. I hope you can learn
Jim [ assett] is giving a talk here in Denver sometime in April.
http://www.dinoridge.org/activity.htm
That page also lists another meteorite talk in February:
Hunting Meteorites in Bolivia
Presented by Dr. Bob Raynolds from the Denver Museum of Nature Science
Tuesday, February 25, 2003
Mohamed has a dream as well - why should we not encourage him ?!
Oh jeezyou're comparing Mohamed to Nininger???...this thread oughta get really interesting now !!
As best I can recall, NOT A SINGLE PERSON on this list is trying to discourage him from searchingmany/most of us wish
Hi Ron
on Fassett's abstract
Theres also a lack in the abstract about what condition the bones are in the
sandstone.
By their very nature, abstracts are summaries and the details will be presented
in the article itself.
If you disagree with Fassett, I'd suggest you contact him
Dear List;
Anyone remember the Warren Zevon song, Mohameds Radio...Classic...Iotola
has his problems too
Dave F.
Peter Marmet wrote:
Hi list,
Mohamed wants to find a lunar meteorite.
The first thing he does is quite good. He does neither search in a
forest nor in a wild mountain range.
He
Dear Yousef
You have had some really nice and generous responses from your fellow listees.
People who have offered you free meteorites along with sound advice. The
encouragement, especially, is most stirring to me considering that so much
negative stuff has come out in our list. You could be
Here's a story from today's LA time:
Howard Wu
Bishop,CA
---NASA Sets Its Sights on Nuclear Space Rocket The White House has signed off on the project, which could make human travel to Mars feasible and boost Southland industry.By Peter PaeTimes Staff
Hi, Bernd, list and all others who helped remove any doubt. As for these
meteorites, i dont believe any of these would apply to this one according to
the location in which he says it was found. I believe it would be a new fall
with the possibility of other stones to be found. Is the 0.6 grams
A fourth individual, Gordon S. McWhorter, was also charged with conspiracy
to commit theft and interstate transportation of stolen property.
McWhorter is scheduled to go to trial in January 2003.
Has anyone heard any details about this trial?
Ron Baalke
Hi list,
between Jan 22 and Feb15 2001, 4 Swiss scientists
(not professional hunters) and a member of the Oman Ministry of Commerce
and Industry
were searching for meteorites. They didn't find a lunar but - among
a lot of other meteorites - a martian (SAU 094) !
see:
Hi Robert and list,
I read you quite late but do confirm what said Matteo, Bernd and others. It is
by no doubt a meteorite. A superb one!
I tried to visualize some flow lines that would mean (partial) orientation (as
the overall shape could also suggest) but I am far from being sure just
From the January 30, 2003 issue of Earth Planetary Science Letters:
Lee, M. R. and P. A. Bland, Dating climatic change in hot deserts
using desert varnish on meteorite finds, Earth Planet. Sci. Lett.
206, 187-198, (2003).
Abstract
A thin coating of desert varnish occurs on Forrest 009 and
I've been informed that the trial date for Gordon S. McWhorter is
now scheduled for February 10 in Federal Court in Orlando, Florida.
The sentencing date for the three other defendants involved with
the theft is in the first half of March, and they will probably
testify against McWhorter.
Ron
Bernd, Jeff, Mark B and others:
Once again, thank you for your help with these questions. Hopefully others
learn as much as I do...and appreciate the knowledge gained.
So the irons are gone from Africa? Maybe yet to be found in some areas?
Regards,
John
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From:
Hi, Bernd, list and all others who helped remove any doubt. As for these
meteorites, i dont believe any of these would apply to this one according to
the location in which he says it was found. I believe it would be a new fall
with the possibility of other stones to be found. Is the 0.6 grams
Thad Roberts has already pleaded guilty to stealing Moon rocks
from NASA. He is also being investigated for stealing from the
Utah Museum of Natural History.
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http://www.museum-security.org/02/105.html#2
Historical artifacts
http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~1116649,00.html
Friday, January 17, 2003
Orderly rock, soil formations just Mother Nature's
little joke
By PAUL RECER
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON -- Dramatic circles of rocks or stripes of
stones precisely aligned on Arctic plains may look
I am not so sure that Mohammed exists. This
has been going on for too long and it sure looks like someone is pulling our
collective chain.
M.C. are you out there? ;)
Cheers,
Mike Tettenborn
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I am not so sure that Mohammed exists. This has been going on for too long and it
sure looks like someone is pulling our collective chain.
That idea came up when he first appeared about a year ago.
Not that it's impossible to fake, but didn't someone trace his ip address back to an
ISP in
Look at the name and think about it ..
M. Cottingham
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is Mohammed a hoax?
I am not so sure that Mohammed exists. This has been going on for too
hello list hello all ,here is a wonderfull meteorite 60 gr, i get today and it's strange meteorite , if it was not few magnetic i would say it's lunar, but it have some weathered elements, and it have millions of veines and shoked veines.well , i think its may be a kind of achondrite , i guess
Greetings All and Mohamed,
I think I first raised that question a year ago.
I also thought that M.C. was having his fun.
But, Mohamed's e-mails ARE coming from NWA.
I also answered my own question when I researched
Mohamed and found an old site where he was trying to sell his
'meteorites' before
I think we should all just realize that we are in the presense of a true
Meteorite HunterMohammed. He not only finds rare lunars with no trouble,
he has by now accumulated a collection of the finest and rarest meteorites
the world has to find. He by now has far exceeded both Ninninger and the
Please be aware that the author is not
responsible for any damage that might incurr from uncontrollable laughter.
Not to worry. ;-)
Hmm.. I was talking to Mark Bostick about Nevada meteorites. I do not think
I have ever seen one for sale. Have any ever been found in Nevada? I have
many from Kansas and Texas and Colorado and New Mexico and Arizona. But ..
have never seen one that was listed from Nevada. Are there any?
Hi list. I just got my 61 gram piece of kilabo/hedeja. It is a thing of beauty. But what is very funny is, it just looks like BENSOUR.Iwas with my friend who did the classifying of this meteorite, and he told me that it is possible these two meteorites might come from the same parent body, thus
Hello good list! I have never seen a pic of a polished slice of Bensour. Can
any one send me one? Or maybe tell me where I can find a pic online?
Thanks, Tom
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Hi list, I want to thank everyone on this list who took their time out to
view this meteorite and give me positive encouragement. I value every one of
your opinions and expertise. This list has truly given me inspiration and
passion for these wonderful rocks from space. I will be returning to
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