[meteorite-list] Ebay Item #2175659927

2003-05-30 Thread LabNEMS
List / All Due to the controversial nature of this auction our observations are being presented in an image-intensive format. To All, I think that this was a very interesting exercise and ultimately healthy to the community. It resulted in many thoughts on COA formats and procedures that should

[meteorite-list] Rosetta Comet Mission Finds a Target

2003-05-30 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.space.com/astronotes/astronotes.html Rosetta Comet Mission Finds a Target space.com May 29, 2003 The European Space Agency's (ESA) delayed Rosetta mission to a comet is back on track. During its meeting on May 13-14, ESA's Science Program Committee decided Rosetta should be sent

Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Item #2175659927

2003-05-30 Thread Steve Schoner
--- LabNEMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List / All Due to the controversial nature of this auction our observations are being presented in an image-intensive format. To All, I think that this was a very interesting exercise and ultimately healthy to the community. It resulted in many

[meteorite-list] Re: Annual Meteorite Dealer Award

2003-05-30 Thread geoking
Title: Re: Annual Meteorite Dealer Award Jeff K. posted: I was thinking tonight that it might be nice to have some sort of recognition for those dealers who go above beyond. Dear Jeff: My good friend the original Steve Arnold and I already do something along these lines with the annual

[meteorite-list] Re: Package arrival re: Ebay Item #2175659927

2003-05-30 Thread Robert Verish
Hello Russ and List, My best guess is that this is an accumulation of naturally-occurring radioactive minerals or salts that are called by geologists as a roll-front ore body, the result of oxidixing groundwater percolating through and past the rusting mass of the iron meteorite. Typically, a

Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Item #2175659927

2003-05-30 Thread LITIG8NSHARK
Good day Steve and Folks, While I didn't become directly involved in the Canyon Diablo controversy on the List I must admit that I held strong opinions as to the meteorwrong status of the 5 specimens in question. Consequently, I will be joining Steve for a sample of that crow. However, I will be

Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Item #2175659927

2003-05-30 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello to those of you concerned, Let me give you all some advise in an area that I am well qualified in! If you plan on eating crow, marinade it in a red wine, keep refrigerated for two days, wrap it in tin foil and barbeque it over mesquite for no longer than 15 minutes, and serve with

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Sharkkb8
The seller is IMCA member #8645. In an earlier auction of this material he was informed that the jury was still out on this material. The description states that it IS a pallasite classified by the Vernadsky Institute of Moscow. At the same time he states it is being sold "as is". A number of

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Thetoprok
If Shirakovsky is not a meteorite then what is it? I don't get it. Larry

[meteorite-list] A fresh Park Forest

2003-05-30 Thread Thetoprok
Dear List Members, I would like to extend an offer to the list first, of a recently aquired Park Forest individual that was picked up within only a few hours of it's entry into our world. It can be viewed at; http://home.earthlink.net/~yellowengine/michigan%20meteorite/homepage.htm The site is

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello all look here http://www.meteorites.ru/shirokovsky1-e.html Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Shirakovsky is not a meteorite then what is it? I don't get it. Larry = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY

[meteorite-list] shirokovsky

2003-05-30 Thread harlan trammell
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Well, I have a quite strong feeling, we have the first man-made pallasite in Shirokovsky...;- Just a quess, but anyway, I have some quite unbeliveble pieces in minerals, made in Russia in good old times... If so, this piece could be called a pallasite, but the story about frozen lakes and divers

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 02:32 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, you wrote: If Shirakovsky is not a meteorite then what is it? I don't get it. Larry A good question. An interesting analysis appears at: http://www.meteorites.ru/shirokovsky1-e.html In some ways it appears meteoritic, in other ways it does not. Note the

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread CMcdon0923
Well, I have a quite strong feeling, we have the first man-made pallasite in Shirokovsky...;- No, we DO NOT have a "man-made pallasite". A pallasite IS a type meteorite. Just as a counterfeit coin is not a coin, nor is a counterfeit stamp a stamp, if it turns out to be man-made, we will have a

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Thetoprok
Thanks Matteo, I guess that sheds some light on the controversy, it still sounds a little wishy washy though. Similarities are striking. They give no indication where such a rock like that might be found, I would like to know. Thanks, Larry

[meteorite-list] Ad- park forest under $19/g

2003-05-30 Thread harlan trammell
i have several park forest meteorite slices on ebay ending in 1 day that can be had for under $19/g. they can be seen at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2176208321category=3239 . there is not much crust, but these are very solid and durable slices sawn from a roadrash piece, so

[meteorite-list] [Fwd: Question for seller -- Item #2175659927]

2003-05-30 Thread magellon
All, I am forwarding Mr.Dan Ray's (raylunar) well deserved I Told You So! When notified of the possibility that his first auction may be incorrect, he quickly canceled his auction. A very humble and honest response. Even after having some pieces verified as CD, Mr. Ray again, shut down his auction

[meteorite-list] shirokovsky

2003-05-30 Thread harlan trammell
has anybody ever seen a crusted piece of this "fall" for that matter? aren't crust pieces from falls worth more than others? why would someone trim off the crust into square pieces? in fact, pallasites have cool crust w/ metal and olivene mix (have nice pieces of glorieta). i would really like to

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Hello, Craig and the list, let´s play, Shirovsky is a man-made one, ok? It has all characteristics of pallasite, expect the terrestial form of olivine-crystals. A diamond mined is a diamond, a synthetic one has same characteristics, but is a man-made one, so both of them are diamonds. This is

Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Question for seller -- Item #2175659927]

2003-05-30 Thread Thetoprok
Ken, and Fellow Crow Eaters, Those pics would have been a wonderful addition to the I.D. contest I had! My hat is off to Raylunar ! I stand corrected. I never said a thing but had my doubts as well. Larry Atkins

[meteorite-list] can anyone help me write an article !!??

2003-05-30 Thread Ian Barrett
Hi all. Im currently writing an article about meteorite collecting for a journal of strange phenomena and was hoping you could help me write it. I dont class myself an expert and Im merely writing it as a passionate beginner but hope I can communicate some of the excitement you all feel

Re: [meteorite-list] shirokovsky

2003-05-30 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Hello, Harlan, and the list, well, this beauty made a hole of 42 cm:s on the ice 80 cm:s thick, and according the story some magnetic particles were found from the ice surrounding the hole. Anybody ever heard about these pieces more? And 150 kg:s has been recovered by the divers... Bjurbole

Re: [meteorite-list] can anyone help me write an article !!??

2003-05-30 Thread bernd . pauli
Ian wrote: What I wanted help with is a price guide going by current market trends. This website may be helpful: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6717/ Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] can anyone help me write an article !!??

2003-05-30 Thread MeteorHntr
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: What I wanted help with is a price guide going by current market trends. Basically an idea of the top $/gram price and which stones are the most sought after. I have a rough idea of rough market values but a more educated statement

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread CMcdon0923
In meteorites we don´t have the ethical norms widely accepted, Ethics is not dependent of what you're selling, be it meteorites, fossils, coins, stamps, gems, or elephant dung. It doesn't matter! You are either an ethical PERSON or you are not. There are some ethic norms in gems, if you

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Charlie Devine
Gregory and list: In fact I informed the seller about a month ago that the status of Shirokovsky was questionable. At the time the seller was running an ebay auction for the same 0.64g slice. He replied that he would look into it and ended the auction. When I saw that he had relisted the slice

[meteorite-list] shirokovsky mixing

2003-05-30 Thread harlan trammell
in the manufacture of steel, siliceous minerals float on the molten iron and are not mixed in because of the iron's greater density. even in a zero -gravity situation, the density differences would push the lighter materials to the surface or outside of the molten iron body UNLESS there was

[meteorite-list] New Destination For Rosetta, Europe's Comet Chaser

2003-05-30 Thread Ron Baalke
ESA Science News http://sci.esa.int 28 May 2003 New destination for Rosetta, Europe's comet chaser Comet-chasing mission Rosetta will now set its sights on Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko. During its meeting on 13-14th May 2003, ESA's Science Programme Committee decided Rosetta's new mission

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread CMcdon0923
If the seller (initials: A.L.) is a member of this group, I would suggest he step forward and state his position. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Is Shirokovsky a meteorite?

2003-05-30 Thread Sharkkb8
the seller was running an ebay auction for the same 0.64g slice. He replied that he would "look into it" and ended the auction. When I saw that he had relisted the slice last night, I first checked to see if he was still an IMCA member, as he had stated that he was the first time the slice was

[meteorite-list] meteorwrong

2003-05-30 Thread harlan trammell
i have bid on the shirokovsky on ebay (but was outbid and wasn't going in a war for it), but good meteorwrongs are also fun to collect so long as they stay cheapand remain as such. in fact, someone once was offering an iron/ basalt mix once that was very intersting.MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] shirokovsky mixing

2003-05-30 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Hello, Harlan and the list, The first question, I dont know, but do know, the first man-made diamonds were russian origin. The second question, the etche pattern doesnt show, if the FeNi has cooled faster than 1 degree Celsius in a mA or so, its impossible to create those circumstanses on

[meteorite-list] New SC Fall or All Wrong?

2003-05-30 Thread magellon
All, What do you think?: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2176712425 Picts sent by Seller: http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/wrongs/2176712425b.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/wrongs/2176712425a.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/wrongs/2176712425c.jpg

[meteorite-list] RE: Anybody Need A Thuathe Indiv?

2003-05-30 Thread Yellowengine
So is that a yes' or a no John? Are you interested in purchasing the specimen or not? -Ryan -- Ryan, You seem like a nice guy...but I'm starting to see a trend from you similar to Steve the SPAMMER Arnold from Chicago. From my

[meteorite-list] Crow eaters

2003-05-30 Thread Marcia Swanson
Hello List, I just wanted to tell all of you who stepped up to the banquet table, for a portion of crow, on-list, no matter how you had it prepared, I really respect you for that and I am really proud to know some of you, and even prouder that there was no hesitation on your part to partake. A

Re: [meteorite-list] Crow eaters

2003-05-30 Thread magellon
Also, A special thanks to Russ from NEMS, who did the excellent lab work and photos for free! ken Marcia Swanson wrote: Hello List, I just wanted to tell all of you who stepped up to the banquet table, for a portion of crow, on-list, no matter how you had it prepared, I really respect you

RE: [meteorite-list] Crow eaters

2003-05-30 Thread Ryan Darby
Have we, as a community, made sufficient peace with the dealer, so that we don't end up after this with a dealer vs. collectors weariness? Maybe an email should go to him, explaining that it was all done for the good of collecting, and that no harm was meant, and that his future endeavors in

[meteorite-list] Portales Valley Inquiry

2003-05-30 Thread Jim Strope
Does anyone have Robert Wollard's Portales Valley website URL? Thanks... Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Inquiry

2003-05-30 Thread Yellowengine
Hi Jim, www.portalesvalleymeteorites.com -Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Inquiry

2003-05-30 Thread Ryan Darby
Its : http://www.portalesvalleymeteorites.com/

RE: [meteorite-list] Crow eaters

2003-05-30 Thread Steve Schoner
--- Ryan Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have we, as a community, made sufficient peace with the dealer, so that we don't end up after this with a dealer vs. collectors weariness? Maybe an email should go to him, explaining that it was all done for the good of collecting, and that no harm

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall In Georgia?

2003-05-30 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, I am looking into this. Will try to have something to report this weekend. -Walter -- www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [meteorite-list] Crow eaters

2003-05-30 Thread Sharkkb8
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe an email should go to him, explaining that it was all done for the good of collecting, and that no harm was meant, and that his future endeavors in meteorites are encouraged? In my correspondence with him I tried to say those things along the wayin between telling

[meteorite-list] Dealers in Montreal area

2003-05-30 Thread Deborah Martin
Are there any dealers in the Montreal area ? Please contact me off list. Cheers Andre Bordeleau __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Collection of Park Forest Meteorites

2003-05-30 Thread M A Cramer
We have just finished putting the final touches on our collection of Park Forest Meteorites that appear at http://www.mepage.com/meteorite_store.htm . This now reflects a complete catalog of our efforts in the last two months. Our remaining complete meteorites ranging from 85 to 229 grams in

[meteorite-list] Crow eaters - Part 1

2003-05-30 Thread Robert Verish
FINALLY!! We have consensus on what is iron shale and what is a meteorite. It's whatever Steve and Gregory deem it to be! And if our specimen should look like those on this web page: http://www.meteorlab.com/File2003-34/pg2.htm then, apparently, we have an iron shale.