[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Siena

2003-06-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello all today is the birthday of the Siena fall, 16 June 1794, one of the 2 important and historical italian falls - after Albareto - where for first Ambrogio Soldani have put the question if the this rocks come from the space - sorry for Chladni but the first idea is come from Soldani 8 years

[meteorite-list] NASA - Astronomy Picture of the Day Turns 8!

2003-06-16 Thread Jeff Kuyken
G'day List, Thought some may like to see todays page. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030617.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteoritesaustralia.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [meteorite-list] Ot ebay reporting?

2003-06-16 Thread mafer
Just a side note to legal animal parts. One of the parks, might be in Nambia but it just excapes me right now, has had a program to eliminate the killing of elephants and rhinos by tranqing them and cutting off horns and tusks, there by, keeping the animal from being killed by poachers. This also

[meteorite-list] Its My Day

2003-06-16 Thread mafer
Hi List Just have to do a little bragging today, hope I don't or didn't snipe someone's special day and I appologize in advance if I did. But just have to let you great people know that I graduated today (took my 1st college level class in 1976) with a Bachelors in Geology. No need for replies or

[meteorite-list] corkscrewing meteorites

2003-06-16 Thread Marco Langbroek
Be carefull here. The dusttrails and/or persistent trains left by meteorites will start to twist after formation due to high altitude winds, often creating a cork-screw pattern in the dust-trail or persistent train. I've seen it happen many times with persistent trains of fireballs. It sometimes

Re: [meteorite-list] corkscrewing meteorites

2003-06-16 Thread Steve Schoner
I think that a person took a famous photo of the Pasamonte fireball as it was happening with a camera. According to him, and Nininger who reported it, it corkscrewed in flight. Steve Schoner/AMS --- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be carefull here. The dusttrails and/or persistent

[meteorite-list] Re: [meteorite-list]

2003-06-16 Thread Mark Langenfeld
Some corkscrewing effects might also be caused by an aerodynamic vortex in the wake of the meteorite (rather than by spinning or tumbling). Mark I think that a person took a famous photo of the Pasamonte fireball as it was happening with a camera. According to him, and Nininger who reported

RE: [meteorite-list] corkscrewing meteorites

2003-06-16 Thread mark ford
Trust me, if you weighed 1.5 tons and where traveling at hundreds of miles an hour and you then broke into three, you would corkscrew. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte (corkscrewing meteorites)

2003-06-16 Thread Marco Langbroek
- Original Message - From: Steve Schoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that a person took a famous photo of the Pasamonte fireball as it was happening with a camera. According to him, and Nininger who reported it, it corkscrewed in flight. Steve Schoner/AMS Hi Steve and others, I am

[meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-16 Thread David Hardy
Hello all, I just returned from 2 1/2 weeks in southeast China recovering a fall (on or about Sept. 10, 2002) from Chenzhou in Hunan province. TKW is 7.6 kg, sorry all will remain with me. I have a couple of pix posted at: http://davidhardy1.tripod.com/xia/id1.html David Hardy

Re: [meteorite-list] corkscrewing meteorites

2003-06-16 Thread Martin Horejsi
Hi All, Here is a link to a pic I took of the launch of the Mars Odyssey spacecraft. The Delta II rocket pretty much went straight as an arrow, but after a minute or so, the smoke trail made loops from a ground perspective. http://www.planetwhy.com/odysseyloopdeloop.jpg As you can see in the

[meteorite-list] Screwball

2003-06-16 Thread David Freeman
Dear List; If one imagines any number of objects that go air borne at flight speed; either motorbikes, NASCARS, fighter jets, skydivers...the potential for a deviation from a straight path of flight is the norm rather than the exception. In baseball, we have a number of pitches that generate

Re: [meteorite-list] Screwball

2003-06-16 Thread S. Singletary
At 09:12 PM 6/16/2003 -0600, David Freeman wrote: If one imagines any number of objects that go air borne at flight speed; either motorbikes, NASCARS, fighter jets, skydivers Actually, for skydivers - if you relax and have proper arch, you can be at terminal velocity and remain on heading,

Re: [meteorite-list] Screwball

2003-06-16 Thread fcressy
Steven, Not that I doubt you or anything like that, but do you have any proof? Any flow lines, lipping on the backside, or any other evidence of oriented flight? ;-) (Early morning sense of humor...must be the subject line). Sorry, Frank At 09:12 PM 6/16/2003 -0600, David Freeman wrote:

[meteorite-list] M-V-5 Rocket Successfully Launches Hayabusa (MUSES-C)

2003-06-16 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.isas.ac.jp/e/new/release/2003/05_06.html M-V-5 Successfully Launches Hayabusa ISAS May 15, 2003 The M-V-5 rocket carrying MUSES-C (Mu Space Engineering Spacecraft-3) lifted off successfully from Kagoshima Space Center (KSC) at 13:29:15 on May 9, 2003. The lift off was smooth and

[meteorite-list] moon meteorites exhibit

2003-06-16 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hi List, Another highlight of the next Ensisheim show (along with the magnetic determinations of meteorite types by Pierre Rochette, described in my last post) worth mentioning is by no means the recent acceptance of Norbert Classen and Siegfried Haberer from Germany, to exhibit most of their

Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte (corkscrewing meteorites)

2003-06-16 Thread Steve Schoner
Well then, if meteors cannot corkscrew what about those that appear to break off and change direction slightly in the lumionous phase? If they can do that, then corkscrewing caused by a flat surface spiraling in the same phase is not out of the question. I am certain that I read in some of the

Re: [meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-16 Thread magellon
David, Congrats... WOW! An extraordinary cherished treasure! Thanks for sharing the pict! ken David Hardy wrote: Hello all, I just returned from 2 1/2 weeks in southeast China recovering a fall (on or about Sept. 10, 2002) from Chenzhou in Hunan province. TKW is 7.6 kg, sorry all will

Re: [meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-16 Thread bernd . pauli
I just returned from 2 1/2 weeks in southeast China recovering a fall (on or about Sept. 10, 2002) from Chenzhou in Hunan province. TKW is 7.6 kg, sorry all will remain with me. I have a couple of pix posted at: http://davidhardy1.tripod.com/xia/id1.html Wow, David! This authentic fall

RE: [meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear David, Congratulations on your new 'fall'! I imagine how happy you must be right now. Adoption can sometimes be a difficult path but one with the greatest of rewards. I know, I have two lovely 'falls' of my own from Colombia. Best wishes for you and the family, Bob Original Message:

[meteorite-list] NWA 869...type(s): towards a solution ?

2003-06-16 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hello list, Regarding NWA 869/787 and their other paired friends, Dean Bessey recently wrote that: every institution that classifies NWA869 seems to get a different classification. This is actually true and probably debated in earlier posts. If I am correct with my files, (but it is so easy

Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte (corkscrewing meteorites)

2003-06-16 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello All, Look how small the fins are on the Saturn v rockets or how small the rudder, flaps or ailerons are on the space shuttle or plane, it does not take a lot to interrupt strait flight. I believe in the corkscrew! Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message -

Re: [meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-16 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Congratulations, really nice one. To me this looks as a babyolite. These are just one of a kind cases...;- take care, pekka David Hardy wrote: Hello all, I just returned from 2 1/2 weeks in southeast China recovering a fall (on or about Sept. 10, 2002) from Chenzhou in Hunan province. TKW is

[meteorite-list] NASA - Astronomy Picture of the Day Turns 8! (on 030616)

2003-06-16 Thread Robert Verish
Try this URL: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030616.html Bob V. -- [meteorite-list] NASA - Astronomy Picture of the Day Turns 8! Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:49:46 +1000 G'day List, Thought some may like to see todays page.

[meteorite-list] Summertime Dessicant Tune-Up

2003-06-16 Thread Yellowengine
Hello List, Now that summer has arrived, I am attempting to get the humidity properly controlled in my display cases. With that said, what type of dessicant is recommend for this purpose? Also, what humidity indicator would you recommend using? I only ask this question because I have heard

Re: [meteorite-list] New fall from China recovered

2003-06-16 Thread Walter Branch
Hi David, Ahhh, the best kind of fall. Congratulations! -Walter -- www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New fall from

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Meteor' drop-tests, have been done?

2003-06-16 Thread Bjørn Sørheim
Pekka List, At 01:58 16.06.03 +0300, you wrote: Hello, Bjorn and the list, we had some speculations last winter in Finland to try some kind of dropping, but as far as I know, nobody here has tried...;- We tried to find information about this kind of test, but with no results. We consulted

Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte (corkscrewing meteorites)

2003-06-16 Thread mafer
Hi Steve and list Not being familiar with aerodynamics and such, I can't speak with authority, but can pose the question of that caused by the wash of the item traveling through an atmosphere. If anyone has ever seen a rocket launched (the smaller ones such as I worked with years ago, nike

Re: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte (corkscrewing meteorites)

2003-06-16 Thread Marco Langbroek
Steve wrote: Well then, if meteors cannot corkscrew what about those that appear to break off and change direction slightly in the lumionous phase? If they can do that, then corkscrewing caused by a flat surface spiraling in the same phase is not out of the question. Hi Steve and others,

[meteorite-list] a lot of gibeon or canyon diablo

2003-06-16 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi listI hope someone can help me out.I am looking for a small lot of either gibeon or canyon diablo.I am looking to spend around $150.00.I need these pieces because I am going to donate these to a nearby school for a future science project.If someone can help me out it will be appreciated.

Re: [meteorite-list] corkscrewing meteorites

2003-06-16 Thread wrecks463
Hello People, Just a thought here, but in my younger days I was pretty handy with a slingshot and my usual ammunition was mainly rocks. The rounder they were the straighter they flew. Usually they would slice left,right ,up or down but on occasion one would corkscrew. If I remember right it

[meteorite-list] NWA998 Thin sections ad

2003-06-16 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Steve all, Both Jim and I also have a few of the NWA 998 thin sections with somewhat smaller viewing area than the rather generous full sized specimens. These are progressively less costly in accordance with viewing area and can be seen at:

Re: [meteorite-list] corkscrewing meteorites

2003-06-16 Thread Steve Schoner
At first, as the meteoroid is entering the atmosphere at high altitude and hypersonic velocity, I imagine that there would not be much deflection in its flight no matter what the shape. But as it penetrates to greater deph and its speed is reduced, then aerodynamic forces must have a greater

[meteorite-list] Re: eBay sellers/buyers guide (to date)

2003-06-16 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi all, Below is the guide I have compiled to date. Some people, need to submit their eBay name to be included, since that is the whole point of the list. If you are not on here and want to be, contact me OFF LIST and provide at least (and in this order): eBay name, location, real name

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869...type(s): towards a solution ?

2003-06-16 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 6/16/2003 2:54:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To add to the confusion, Anne Black wrote this morning that the meteorite "AC 001" she is offering on E-bay (found by Alain Carion in Morocco in 2000 and under study) has a quite unusual type LL3/5. This is

[meteorite-list] FAQ page link reminder

2003-06-16 Thread ari machiz
Hi everyone, I just received an e-mail from Geoff N. inquiring about my meteorite FAQ page. First of all, the link is: http://www.geocities.com/a_machiz/Meteorite/Faq/index.htm If you want a shorter address, just go to: http://www.geocities.com/a_machiz and you'll see a link for the FAQ page.

[meteorite-list] Re: FAQ page link reminder

2003-06-16 Thread geoking
Title: Re: FAQ page link reminder I just received an e-mail from Geoff N. inquiring about my meteorite FAQ page http://www.geocities.com/a_machiz/Meteorite/Faq/index.htm Dear Ari and List: A while back, Ari put a lot of time into compiling this FAQ page about meteorites and meteorite

[meteorite-list] Another fireball below the cloud deck.

2003-06-16 Thread Robert Verish
Thought this may be of some interest. Another report of a fireball below the cloud level. In the past, these accounts have been written off as being a depth perception problem or optical illusion [read delusion] but these accounts should be looked at more closely: --- Forward

[meteorite-list] Meteorites on Mars?

2003-06-16 Thread Fred Olsen
List: With all the Probes heading for Mars I have been pondering a bit on how meteorites on mars might differ from those on earth? How would an asteroid fragment react with the atmosphere of Mars with its different composition and density? Does the Martian atmosphere have enough density to stop