Hello to the List members,
I try to contact James Schwade, the Curator of the
DuPont Meteorite Collection (Planetary Studies
Foundation) but I can't find his email address.
Does anybody have it ?
Thanks a lot,
Pierre-Marie Pele
www.meteor-center.com
Vous
Hi Adam and Listees,
The classification of Amgala (Provisional name) is H3.7/H5.
Best Wishes,
Philippe
Meteoritica
Hi All,
Mike asked the status of Amgala. Amgala (Provisional Working Name) is still
under study at NAU. There are several reasons for the delay. One, NAU has
a huge cue.
Amgala*
Cleaned Zag being substituted, only one well known dealer still at fault.
Hi Adam, are you at liberty to let us know who this dealer is?
I think the collecting community needs to know. I would hate
to see a collector buy a Zag thinking it was a fresh new fall.
Best regards,
Roman
Good Morning Adam, Roman and List,
Roman makes a very valid point here. It would be nice to know who among us
is intentionally pulling a 'bait and switch' with Amgala. Unfortunately,
for someone to make such an allegation public can result in legal problems.
Adam, since you have publicly
Thanks a lot Doug, now the dang song will be in my head all day;-)
Roadrunner! beep beep! The coyote is coming to eat you! (literal translation)
The actual jingle was:
Roadrunner, the coyote's after you...Roadrunner, if he catches you you're
through!
I raised seven kids.
JKGwilliam
At 11:06 PM
Strange...type Zag .H3/6 very few difference.and its brecciated from
the pieces have cut
Matteo
From: philippe thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe
[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Amgala Status
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004
Yes, Amgala looks like Zag, but as a man who has sold about 80 kilos of Zag
and 7 kilos of Amgala, there are subtle differences that anyone can see if
they have seen a few pieces of Zag.
Zag has very thick coarse fusion crust, often bumpy and granular.
Amgala has smooth thinner crust, almost
yes the crust its different but the matrix its the same, for the kilos...
who is say to me this is not a fresh zag put on hold from moroccan people
and now put in the market for another fall? Is many strange the Amgala fall
notice is exit for a pure case, from a segnalationyou remember the
I am a bit behind responding to this thread as I was
visiting my parents with my new wife in newfoundland
and am despertaely trying to keep from falling to far
behind in my ebay auctions.
I havent seen any scams going on with Amgala although
I dont follow ebay to much. I have seen a HUGE amount
of
The easiest way for a collectors to avoid to buy a Zag instead of an Amalga:
If the stone is so fresh and displays a crust, which you'd like to touch
only with gloves,
fresh like a Bensour for instance,
then it's an Amgala for sure.
I never saw a Zag, which could mess with Amgala in freshness.
Regarding Amgala in Munich:
I have been there as well, and I second Dean's observations. Amgala was
around EUR3.00 to EUR4.00 - The more beautiful pieces closer to the 4
euro mark. I myself bought an 81g 100% crusted individual, and I have
seen quite some other pieces.
Bernhard
Hi Mike and Listees,
Ive got exactly the same point of view as Mike. I dont say that a swindle
didnt exist or still
exists or anything like that, I dont know anything about that, but a thing is
sure : Amgala
(provisional name) is really a new fall. It fell 20km away from Oum Dreyga, on
The following link is to a letter from the Smithsonian, via Roy Clark to
Elbert Bert King, who at the time was head of the Lunar Receiving
Laboratory King was one of the first to study Bediasite tektites, the
first curator of lunar rocks and helped recover several meteorites,
including being
Hi! This morning, 4 of my pile of meteorite-list e-mails came in blank
except for the header, all from people I have received mail from in the past
with no trouble. I tried to reply to one e-mail, and it was bounced back to
me from a Yahoo group without making it to the main list. Anyone
This must be a really rare find when you cut a meteorite.
I've never seen a meteorite slice like this. The seller couldn't be
more on the spot when he wrote :
A one-of-a-kind collector's piece !
and in the end it's only a NWA 869, but one of the more impressive
sections I've ever seen. Even more
Hello Tracy and list (hopefully). I am not having the same type of trouble
you are but have been completly unable to post to the list for some time. I
have tried severl times to get help from the E-mail they send once a month,
but so far my self help has been unsuccessful. I hope this E-mail
Hello Mike and Tracy. Remember to always convert you email to plain
text before you send it to the list. The list server will not accept
html formatted emails and your email will disappear into the ether if
you send one in a format other than plain text.
Best wishes
-John
Mike / flattoprocks
In a message dated 11/12/2004 8:59:26 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Strange...type Zag .H3/6 very few difference.and its brecciated from
the pieces have cut
Hi Matteo and all
I want to point out that the correct classification of Zag is H3-6. Which
indicates
In Munich - and I have confirm - for the Amgala the moroccan person ask
$1500 and this is $1.5/gr.no problems, I see the same person in Bologna
in March and I ask how much he want, for sure I not buy why give all this
money for a normaly moroccan fall its exaggerated
Matteo
From: dean
Hmmm, if the Amgala would have arrived some hours later, perhaps it would
have felt in New Orleans... would this have had changed the properties of
the rock? Would 1500$ then be exaggerated
A fall is still a fall,
I really hug you all,
and please contact Marcin if anyone is interested in the
If this works.. well even if it doesn't work thanks for the posts trying to
help.
I am looking to purchase a large Gibeon say 2 to 10 kilos. As most of you
know I cut and etch, so the shape does not need to be nice. I am more
interested in a price that makes sense for me. Of course if you have
Dear List Members,
Classification is a means for simplification.
Sometimes square pegs have to be forced into round
holes to make things neat. In FACT , many meteorites
are unique and one of a kind, even if given the same
classification.this is science! But, for the
convenience of
Hi all,
Many, many years ago, ice falls were a hot topic on this list -for a
short while anyway.
Well, maybe we will get some answers now.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/12/fallen.ice.ap/index.html
Cheers,
Martin H.
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
Hello Mike,
I have read a description of Zag that is a little more complex than the
interpretation of the H3-6 classification which you attribute to it. I
think you are correct in that the present accepted two-number system is
not adequate for some breccias.
One source describes Zag as composed
Interesting. So when a chunk of ice reaches it's terminal velocity it's also
dense enough to crash through a plywood roof. If you've ever done roof
demolition, sledge and prybar, that's pretty impressive. Plywood is tough stuff.
Bill
-- Original message --
Hi David
Looks like I got a little ahead of myself with using Zag as an example of a
simple breccia. You are correct that it does consist of all types H3, H4, H5,
and H6. I was originally told the light clasts were H6 and the dark were H3.
Of course it is a lot more complicated than that. So
Hello all,
The latest copy of Geotimes has a couple of short articles that might be of
interest.
The first article deals with meteorite impacts on Earth and how they might
have played a role early life, or how they may have impacted early life
on Earth ;-)
Also mentioned is how impacts might aid
TEST
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Good Evening;
I was wondering if anyone who owns a piece of NWA 2223 has had this
meteorite classified, has a theory of what it may be, or has any other
information on it (can't seem to find anything on the Web).
Thanks! --- Art
__
Meteorite-list
Test
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Good Evening;
Good evening Art and List,
I was wondering if anyone who owns a piece of NWA 2223
I own a 26.7-gram complete slice that I purchased from Dean's
unclassified 900-gram meteorite. Dean got a NWA number for it
but did not get it classified so we can only theorize.
My guess is that
Dear List, NWA1817, Mesosiderite and NWA1827 Mesosiderite, classified by Dr.
Tony Irving, main masses, Oakes. NWA1836, Twisted Sister, classified by
Dr. ted Bunch, main mass Oakes.
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
test
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Mike is not quite right. The hyphen means it's a breccia spanning at least
the range of specified types. So H3-6 means it's a breccia containing H3,
H6, and possibly (but not necessarily) everything in between. The slash
means the person could not tell, or, sometimes, that the meteorite is
Incorrect again Nels,
Look at the latest meteoritical bulletin and this abstract:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2004/pdf/5163.pdf
You only purchased the smaller half of each of these stones. Habibi had
these meteorites cut into two pieces and sold you the smaller parts. He
thought he
In a message dated 11/12/2004 3:54:53 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The slash means the person could not tell, or, sometimes, that the meteorite
is
transitional.
Hi Jeff
Thanks for clearing that up. Obviously shows I have never classified a
meteorite.
I was getting
Hello all,
Updates have been made to my website
http://cjsmeteorites.com/
These include a new Space and Astronomy News page
New Chondrites added for sale
Translater added
New links and pictures added
General Maintenance/Cleaning up performed!
Upcoming Additions will be:
Logos added to links
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
November 8-12, 2004
o Collapse Pits in Bernard Crater (Released 8 November 2004)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20041108a.html
o Sulci Collapse Pits (Released 9 November 2004)
http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20041109a.html
o Noctis Labyrinthus Collapse Pits
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/12/fallen.ice.ap/index.html
'Grapefruit-size' ice falls on house
FAA trying to identify source of ice
Associated Press
November 12, 2004
KENT, Washington (AP) -- Investigators are trying to identify the source
of ice chunks that smashed through the roof
Adam,
The innuendos you made after Dean started the sale were clear. You do that
often. Your air abrasion unit sale is not very clever. Why don't you show some
balls and take a real stand. Instead of casting aspersions, just get to the
point.
Bill
I remember some months back that there was a large Amgala floating around
but the price was a lot higher then. I had a look through my archives and
actually managed to dig up a pic which I think originally came from Morocco.
(Link below) Take it for what you will; I just thought some of you might
Hello List
I have few auction ending toonight and other in next few days.
http://stores.ebay.com/PolandMET-Store
If someone is interested I strongly reccomended :
ORIENTED Sikhote-Alins
nice etched half specimens of MUNDRABILLA
full slices of ALLENDE
and new type of LARGE acrylic BOXES for
Bill,
You have got it wrong again. Our auction started on the 5th not the 6th
when Dean announced his big sale. I mentioned the air abrasion cleaning
months ago if you want to check the records. Why are you trying to start
arguments where none exists? What is wrong with you?. Is it the J
Adam,
You need to update your standard replies. My points are valid and your insults
don't do much for the image you're trying to present.
Bill
-- Original message --
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill,
You have got it wrong again. Our auction started
At 06:21 PM 11/12/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mentioned that some times a person cannot tell if it is one
classification or another so end up using the slash. I can understand how
this is possible
over a range of two grades. But do you believe that this is
possible/acceptable over 3 or
Dear List and Adam, I see nothing in the abstract that says I am incorrect.
I stated that I paid to have the said meteorites classified and that at the
time of their classifying I had the main masses. We all know that this can
and does usually change. Congrats on your piece of 1817, although I'm
Hi and good evening list.I just updated my website with the correct pieces
of campos sales I have still forsale.I only ahve 10 pieces left.Ranging
from 41 grams to 563 grams.2 slices,1 individual, and 7 fragments.I also
put the weights,the price per gram, and the total cost of each
stone.Please
Nelson,
Everything I stated is accurate except calling NWA 1836, NWA 1838, a simple
mistake which I gladly own up to. We turned over the lab results of
meteorites we studied for Habibi when you acquired the stones and we were
not compensated for doing so. I would say this is classifying your
Why the heck is Anne Black the president of the International Meteorite
COLLECTORS Association? I remember her mentioning that she doesn't collect
meteorites, just deals them.
Bill
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill,
I wouldnt hold your breath.
Bob E.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Amgala
Adam,
The innuendos you made after Dean started the sale were clear. You do that
often. Your air
Boy,
This must be Illinois night. First we are blessed with Bill's presence and
now Bob Evans. Do you two live in the same vicinity near a toxic waste dump
or are your dispositions naturally inbreed?
- Original Message -
From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite list
ROTFLMAO!!
Ryan
-Original Message-
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 12, 2004 9:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Amgala
Boy,
This must be Illinois night. First we are blessed with Bill's presence and
now Bob Evans. Do you two live in the same
BILL,
What are you president of, Jerks Inc.? Why are you here? Go peddle your
trash somewhere else!
Dan
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] I.M.C.A
Why the heck is Anne Black the
Yes, I had the large piece of the 1838 for many months, but sent it to
Nelson as I did not want to pay Habibi what he was asking for it. It is a
superb meteorite and I wish I could have bought it.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message -
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ron:
The article doesn't say if anyone took the samples and put them in the
freezer, something I hope anyone would do. I can't think of too many places
on a plane where grapefruit size chunks could collect, fall off at the same
time and follow the same trajectory.
George
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY:
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Nov_13.html
__
Meteorite-list mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Hello List, I am just curious, in 1999 and 2000, I probably saw close to ten
fireballs I would consider spectacular. In the last two years, I have seen
zero, zip, none, not even a dud! I spend as much time outside under dark
skies now as I did then, I just do not see them anymore! Unfortunately,
Hello to the List,
I've got a question about NWA 1982.
It was first described as an ungrouped achondrite
(close to a brachinite) in the Meteoritical Bulletin.
Then it was paired with Mesosiderites C
(1827/1879/1882/1912/1951/1982/3055) in the Bunch
Irving article (67th Annual Meteoritical
58 matches
Mail list logo
