Hello to the List,
I' m sending messages to Erich Haiderer for more than
a week but I've got no answer. Does anybody know if
he's on a trip or on vacation ?
Thanks,
Pierre-Marie Pele
www.meteor-center.com
Vous manquez despace pour stocker vos mails ?
Or storing it in oil after the alcohol/NaOH bath?
As I say before, I stored my etched droninos oiled with Balistol in open
air and they looks stable for some months. And I not used on them NaOH
solution yet. I etched them around may/june and maybe 2 weeks ago I sell my
last one.
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Dear Listees,
The problem with rusting of very weathered iron meteorites isn't primarily the
oxygen, but the air humidity. Rusting is an electrochemical process, which is
dramatically enhanced by the presence of salts withing cracks and grain
boundaries of the meteorite. The most problematic
Dear Listees,
The problem with rusting of very weathered iron meteorites isn't primarily the
oxygen, but the air humidity. Rusting is an electrochemical process, which is
dramatically enhanced by the presence of salts withing cracks and grain
boundaries of the meteorite. The most problematic
Hi Bernhard, Mark, and List,
First, be assured that the IMCA is watching this discussion with
great interest - if you are referring to its Board Members. At least
I am. However, if you have questions, or some critical remarks, please
address them directly to the IMCA Board, or address them on
Alright, I give up folks. The first person to make a reasonable offer to me
takes it. I can't afford to keep the specimen at this particular time. And a
quick word of advise to anyone new considering collecting meteorites as an
investment, don't count on your investment to do well for ya.
Nels and list,
Yes but let's not forget that ALL iron meteorites rust, this will affect
all pieces if they are not stored in a reasonably dry place...
I have even seen rusty Chinga pieces, and that stuff is practially
natural stainless steel!
Mark Ford
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Ryan, yes, the meteorite market is strange, I must confess though, that Bill
Clinton Left George Bush TRILLIONS of dollars in surplus, now, that is
TRILLIONS of dollars in deficit.
I guess the rich needed that extra money to buy a new Mercedes or two
The meteorite market was smoking back in
Dear Michael and all,
Michael, political ramblings are no place for this list. Please refrain from
doing so any more. If we can talk about politics then why not religion, classic
cars, cigars, coin collecting or what have you? A big part of the market is and
has been hurt by useless fighting, all
I agree. But don't forget who started this political argument...
Bernhard
At 15:52 26.11.2004, you wrote:
Dear Michael and all,
Michael, political ramblings are no place for this list. Please refrain from
doing so any more. If we can talk about politics then why not religion,
classic
cars,
I agree with Bernhard, wag a disapproving finger at the real
instigator. Mike only corrected Ryan's incorrect statement.
JKG
At 09:07 AM 11/26/2004, Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems wrote:
I agree. But don't forget who started this political argument...
Bernhard
At 15:52 26.11.2004, you wrote:
Dear
political ramblings are no place for this list.
.. because this will automatically split this haunted place
into at least two opposing factions mirroring the election
results in the USA.
no one should be in this just for profit or
investment, buy something you love ...
I have never
Hello List
I want ask for help with identification true info about NWA835
I buy it from Pitmann in 2000 in Gifhorn as H4, TKW 1104g, 16.11.2000
In catalogue M. Grady it not exist, but in last A to Z it is as H6, TKW1104,
found 30.11.2000
Someone have this meteorite ?
For sure it is H4, with nice
Well, it certainly depends on WHEN you started collecting.
I agree that the expensive pieces are dirt-cheap even today and were
expensive some time ago, but the OC material has been cheaper last year.
The bargains with pieces below $ 100 have certainly decreased. But if you
have a lot to spend,
I want ask for help with identification true info about NWA 835
I buy it from Pitmann in 2000 in Gifhorn as H4, TKW 1104g, 16.11.2000
In catalogue M. Grady it not exist, but in last A to Z it is as H6, TKW1104,
found 30.11.2000
Here is what the Meteoritical Bulletin says:
Northwest Africa
For sure it is H4, with nice brecciation and many visible chondrules.
Marcin and List,
Just look at Cole Creek. It is a sea of well-defined chondrules,
and still, ... it is an H5 chondrite (Fa = 18.5).
Bernd
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Its like car insurance, too many false claims and it affects everybody
else's premiums. In the case of meteorites, fraud drives the price down
across the board because it kills consumer confidence.
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Yes, I wouldent argue with Dr Rubin. And Rubin got a
section of NWA869 and called it a L4 and then from the
EXACT SAME ROCK got another section and called it an
L5.
Two parts of the VERY SAME ROCK that Rubin got pieces
of were of a different classification. That should
tell you the rock is not
Dean,
Four List members who did not engage in the recent dealer Wolf Pack type
tactics gave their opinions and all say NWA 904 is different from NW 869 and
this was just last week. In previous statements you were completely wrong
about NWA 1109 which is a meteorite we had classified. It has 0%
Dear Dean,
I want to personally thank you for extending Thanksgiving for us. Thanks for
keeping the dead horse alive, we just can't get enough of it. If you keep
kicking it long enough you will have produced so much fertilizer that you
will have a heck of a bumper crop next spring.
Thanks
What does Bush have to do with meteorites? Americans have come a long way
since their charming Ambassador Ben Franklin pinched the French ladies
derrières in Paris and flew kites in the rain. Just look at Mike and Ryan!
John, Bernd and now I have already been sent to stand in the corner for
SEISMIC SHAKING ERASED SMALL IMPACT CRATERS ON ASTEROID EROS
From Lori Stiles, UA News Services, 520-621-1877
November 26, 2004
University of Arizona scientists have discovered why Eros, the largest
near-Earth asteroid, has so few small craters.
When the Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (NEAR)
Dean,
Impress us all, Instead of selling anything for a buck including Black Sea
Pearls, Ming Dynasty Artifacts, Stuffed Animals, Blankets, Snake Oil and
Elixirs why don't you specialize in meteorites? Learn everything you can
about them, possibly start a collection and let us know about the
Does anyone ever get through one of these rambling emails without falling
asleep?
K.
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To: Bernhard Rendelius Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
I must have the weirdest environment ever to try to preserve meteorites
in... My 10 g piece of Chinga, which one of the other List members described
as practically natural stainless steel, has a nice little swathe of rust
across its face. I will need to clean and treat better than half of my
Do you people (dealers, mostly, but by no means
exclusively) have ANY idea of how much the rest of
us HATE the insidious, ongoing, petty prodding, poking,
mudslinging CRAPOLLA with which you endlessly
POLLUTE this list?
You have been asked nicely, gently, politely,
As far as I'm concerned, the main purpose of political arguments on this
list is to discuss export policies et. al. of meteorites. Other than that,
I don't care who you supported in the last election.
Tracy Latimer
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Dear Mike and list members,
Very well said Mike. I did get drawn into it this time out of pure
frustration and the same I AM TIRED OF ALL THE 'FERTILIZER' also. I should
have sent a post like yours. For my part in attempting to throw cold water
on it, I apologize to everyone.
Having been
Hello list.I am a big hupe' fan.I buy from both brothers.I do not have any
problem with them.To me THEY are what this list is all about.They spend
thier own money to get results that we collecters want to see.I really
look forward to seeing them again in tucson.I have been collecting for 5.5
Adam,
Aren't you the one that is involved in 99% of the arguments here on the
list?
Either on the offensive or defensive.
Seems like everytime there is a argument , you are involved in some way
That must say something shouldn't it?
Maybe, you are trying to pick up where Matteo left off.
Do
Steve,
Dont you ever tire of kissing their ass??
Let Adam publickly attack your demeanor and maybe your tune will change.
Are you really that oblivious to all of his tirades?
Your Friend
Bob Evans
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To: [EMAIL
Dear Steve all,
You are entirely right.
Nearly every single person - whether they have been quacking
lately or not, is a really, truly good guy. Greg just demonstrated
he is a shining example of this fact. His post was a real example
of courage and honor. Nearly all of us have
Jorn, I saw this posted by some coinshooters to clean metal. Will
this work for iron? Haven't tried it. I suspect with some chem
tweaks this may be the best your average collector could build
affordably to treat irons.
When building a electrolysis machine to clean metal, a
better
hello all
time for a change
last monday a fall in bengrir , in a small town called bouchaoun,
my friend that are there report to me that the people of the small town has
collect the fall
but was surprised by the police and some other people asking them to give
back to police very stone, well
Dear Michael, Steve and all,
I appreciate your words and support. I did get sucked in because of the
recent Hupe-Bashing mission by a few. I just got plain tired of it.
In the future, I challenge anyone who wishes to bash us to do it in private
and do not post to the list with 'private' email
hi all
the first 250 gr was recovred by our friends in bengrir
they sad it looks like bensour
great a fall of only days.
photo will be available in two days.
all the best
aziz
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Hmm.. So now I started an argument? I thought I had just made a simple
comparison. (??) Although, I must apologize for using that particular
comparison on the list. I do realize that some of you are ultra-sensitive when
it comes to politics, which is a bit ridiculous. Everyone should realize
- I cry for Narcisse, but I had never realized that
Narcisse was beautiful. I cry for Narcisse because,
each time that he was inclined towards my banks, I
could see, at the bottom of his eyes, the reflection
of my own beauty.
More Oscar Wilde quotes:
In all matters of opinion, our adversaries
Is it wise to coat iron meteorites with wax, etc.? Some say it's
OK and others say to *never* coat a meteorite. Does anyone have any
insight into this?
JG
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As I stated before, I don't intend to drag this battle any further, but don't
you think that 9/11 had anything at all to do with the fall of the economy???
You can't just pile all of the blame on Bush. The same thing would have
happened had any other president been in office at the time. Have
As I stated before, ...
the problem was ...
The fundamental problem here is that both parties are right.
This all depends on one's perspectives, political points of view,
personal / individual reasoning, family / social background,
beliefs, past / present experiences / personal economical
Is it wise to coat iron meteorites with wax, etc.? Some say it's
OK and others say to *never* coat a meteorite. Does anyone have any
insight into this?
I have only bad experiences. Also if meteorite is stable this will start
blowing some day.
Its the same as puting meteorites to plastic bags.
Hello List,
Does anyone have current contact information for Bill Peck, the creator of
the map, Guide to North American Meteorites? I've been told he has moved
from Steamboat Springs, Colorado.
Anyone with info, please contact me off list. And, if you know of anyone
with some of his maps for
For whatever it's worth:
http://www.astronomicalleague.com/MeteorMap.htm
JKGwilliam wrote:
Hello List,
Does anyone have current contact information for Bill Peck, the creator
of the map, Guide to North American Meteorites? I've been told he has
moved from Steamboat Springs, Colorado.
Anyone
Apprentice Terrorist: Master, how do I know when I have terrorized
someone?
Master Terrorist: When they respond to your actions in any way my son, in
ANY way.
-CharlyV
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dean
bessey
Sent: Wednesday,
I know that it might be a little too early to talk
about them, but are all of the different auctions
still being planned, and possibly when will the
listings start to appear? Just something that I was
thinking about on this cold, rainy night.
Dave
http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM8AVWJD1E_0.html
Crater Hale in Argyre basin
European Space Agency
Mars Express
24 November 2004
These images, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board
ESA's Mars Express spacecraft, show Crater Hale in the Argyre basin of
the
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/mars-general-04x.html
Cash-Strapped Russia Aims For Unmanned Mars Moon Landing
AFP
November 25, 2004
Udaipur, India (AFP) -
Russia's space program is unlikely to launch a planetary mission before
2009 because of cash shortages, a top scientist said Thursday.
The
Hi Dave,
My auction is Saturday, Feb. 5th at the same location as 2004.
I hope to have my web page up by Dec. 1 with the majority of
specimens being offered listed with photograph. People sending
me an excellent photo and full description before the end of
November have the 1% fee
Hello All,
Just a quick plug, I am currently selling the following micros on my
website:
Allende - CV3.2 NWA 869 - ? (L5)
Campos Sales - L5 NWA 1792 - H5
DaG 476 - SHE (adding Tonight) NWA 1929 - Howardite
Djoumine - H5-6 NWA 1930 - LL3
Gaines County Park - H5NWA 3111 - LL3
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=5ObjectID=6500454
Rocks of all ages tell story
New Zealand Herald
November 27, 2004
A few hundred metres off the coast of Northland stand tiny islets that
may tell the story of the biggest catastrophe in the history of life on
Earth.
Arrow Rocks,
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