Steve Arnold (Chicago) wrote:
...one of the most beautiful and oriented meteorites that I have
ever seen. It was in the LABENNES meteorite room at the inn suites.
It was a 150 gram Sikhote-Alin that was a C shape with jagged teeth
and shaped like a dragon. Hence the name The Dragon...
Darren
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/October_29_2007.html
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On 29 Oct 2007 08:35:35 UT, you wrote:
I recently paid $142 for 0.284 gr of the NWA 4801 angrite, a beautiful angrite
with gorgeous, translucent crystals of pyroxene and plagioclase. Well, for a
speck of 0.284 gr for $142, that is $500 for one gram!!!
But what if the Angrite piece would
Hi all -
The name comes from a spectacular cometary impact with
the Moon which was observed in the Americas. I have an
image of a petroglyph showing this - write me off list
for a copy, but I will be gone for the next week and a
half.
A 30-pound chunk of the Willamette Meteorite, which
was
Steve Arnold (Chicago) wrote:
...one of the most beautiful and oriented meteorites that I have
ever seen.
OK... I'll bite-- Steve? how is this oriented?
You've been collecting how many years?
It may have flow features, the photos are fairly dark, but how do you
justify calling this
Folks, I want to briefly mention the importance of immediately
reaching out to the media when they get the story wrong.
When I saw the following piece (which Darren also provided below), I
contacted AP and explained their story was inaccurate: I informed AP
the Willamette meteorite did
Elton,
You're not the only one who was wondering why Steve would call it oriented.
It looks like a cool piece of shrapnel. Thats about it.
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Steve Arnold (Chicago) wrote:
...one of the most beautiful and
And speaking about rusters... ¿is there any list of meteorites, of
rusters to avoid?
Thanks!
Paco
AL Mitterling escribió:
mckinney trammell wrote:
i wish to refinish+ soak in diesel to try to see the surface, again.
what equipment is recommended to resurface+polish this?
Hi Mckinney
Dear List Members,
After seeing the Claxton Mailbox sell for over
$82,000.00 minus the door, I felt there may be some
collector interest in other man-made items struck by a
meteorite. My brother, Greg and I mainly collect by
rare type so these impacted items do not really fit
our collection
Dear list members,
today a really special ad, as it's Comet Time!
We know that many of us are amateur astronomers, others bibliophile,
Holmes is delivering a massive spectacle, therefore such an proposition is
certainly not misplaced.
From our collection we're offering today four different 17th
Well Doug,
Perhaps it was so..
But I rather follow another interpretation:
http://kuerzer.de/dragonshaper
Best
Martin
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Gesendet: Montag, 29. Oktober 2007 18:56
An:
Hi list.I know that everyone will have thier own
version of the word oriented,I think we had this same
thread a couple of years ago,to me this is very
oriented.I have held it in my hands.It is not
shrapnal.It is the very kind of sikote-alin that we
all love to have.It even has some fusion crust on
It will NOT end up on ebay.I just have to learn how to
type better or start using spell check better.I am
sorry for this post,but I had to correct my spellings.
steve
Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
The Asteroid Belt!
Dear List,
Yes, the clouds finnnallly cleared in the Ohio
Valley. After a week of hearing the pitter patter of
rain on the observatory roof, it cleared and I
screamed aloud: Now I can see Comet Homes!!! I
eagerly and excitedly rolled off the roof to the
roll-off-roof observatory and paced the
In fact, the coma is not entirely symmetric. There is clearly a denser
region which is offset from the nucleus. This may be a product of
whatever caused the outburst, or it may be tail structure seen through
the coma- that remains to be seen.
Our imagination is perhaps contaminated by visions
Steve,
a spell checker do not help at Freudian slip.
Andi
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Hi, Elton, Steve, Bernd, Darren, Bob, List,
I don't see where Steve claimed that this meteorite had a bulbous nosecone
form that so many stony collectorys envy and hold synonymous with
orientation.
Come on, this attractive IRON (as sculpted irons go) does have some
interesting morphology -
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:07:35 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
.And what I paid for it,is no one's
business.
Heck many a
collecter has had every opurtunity to own this in
tucson every year the labennes have been there.BUT NO
THEY JUST LOOKED AND SAID,NICE PIECE.
I just think that the two above statements
Doug kindly wrote:
this attractive iron...does have some interesting
morphology - this * is * quite a curiosity!
It definitely is: *ring irons* are scarce to the best of my knowledge. Maybe we
should replace oriented by the word flight-marked - a word proposed by Jim
Strope several years ago.
Does somebody know (Darryl ?) for how much did the following items
sell at the Bonham's auction ?
- l'Aigle (with old label)
- Ensisheim
- Holbrook 604 g
Regarding Ensisheim, if sold, how can one learn who was the bidder
(supposed to be the new happy owner) ? (assuming the bidder was not
I have a really nice pie cut end cut available
I am asking $250 plus shipping or best offer.
It's very symmetrical and displays well.
This face has a super nice etch
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Uruacu/267grEC2.jpg
This face has a huge shiny black inclusion and large
Hi, Chris, List
The best argument against a collision is the absurd
improbability of TWO collisions in the last century,
since this comet has a history of outbursts.
The problem with probability is the probability of the
assumptions that are applied. If 17P is an isolated object
and any
bonhams should be making all the numbers available momentarily.
l'aigle - one of the two lots which did not sell. (the other was the
back plate of the claxton mailbox). ((and yes, i'm not including
brenham or willamette ;-)
ensisheim - $4,750
holbrook - $13,000
On Oct 29, 2007, at
Hi Zelimir and all.
Here are the lots with prices realized;
http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r
Mike
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303-337-4361
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website: www.jensenmeteorites.com
On 10/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
I don't disregard the possibility of collisions with co-orbiting
material. But the probability of colliding with something while passing
through the asteroid belt is still exceedingly small. That zone is still
basically empty space- very little material spread out in a massive
volume.
Chris
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=1510
IT Came From Vesta
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
October 29, 2007
Their infiltration began - like so many other infiltrations - with a
tell-tale contrail of smoke and flame creating a supersonic slash across
the afternoon sky. But this time
Hans... would you please e-mail me when you have the
chance or if someone has Han`s e-mail address, could
you please send it to me. Thanks.
Dave
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Hello Listees, and desert comet chasers,
The exciting performance of 17P, from within our cloudless, profusely
particulate and sodium vapor laden metropolis, is one of those events that
we couldn't allow to become diluted among our list of memorable astronomical
spectacles left un-notched in
What about the 4 gram Mars meteorite?
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] bonhams meteorite auction
bonhams
Come on Steve,
You KNOW it will end up on ebay. Thats nothing to be ashamed of. You are
slightly different than the majority of us collectors. Your desire to have a
new meteorite in the P.O. Box every week is insatiable. And if that means
you have to keep buying and selling every piece you get
POSSIBLE DETECTION OF A SHORT TAIL BEHIND COMET 17/P HOLMES
Universite de Montreal
October 29, 2007
Montreal - The recent brightening of comet Holmes has
spurred a frenzy of observations both by amateurs and professionals
astronomers alike. All these observations reveal a tailless round
Steve,
Oh Yea! You think your dragon is cool, check out my
Thanksgiving Turkey Sikhote Alin (already basted and
ready to put in the oven). I am sure collectors and
museums will be scampering for this piece:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140171597656
Best Regards,
Adam
Here's a link to the final prices which include the 20% buyers premium.
http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EURscreen=ResultsXMLiSaleNo=15648#
Paul Swartz
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Offering arguments to account for reality, i.e.. observed phenomenon, where
logic is fully implemented, when other KNOWN probabilities, i.e. solar
excitation [at least in the present (12 min.)] are eliminated or at the very
least, less likely than alternatives, NO MATTER THE MATHEMATICAL ODDS,
Unfortunately, prophetically true.
Jerry Flaherty
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:56 PM
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Hi,
does not preclude the possibility of
getting wacked twice in 100+ years
Are you saying that some of us are just unlucky?
Sterling K. Webb
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Hi Mike,
This is all I get when I click the URL you provided below:
Sorry, this page is unavailable, please hit the back button to return to
the previous page or click here to return to the home page.
Any idea why that is?
RSVP
Michael
on 10/29/07 4:08 PM, Mike
Hi, Chris, List
We have no way of knowing how long Holmes has
been in its present orbit; it could easily be many millions
of years (or a few scores of thousands). It would make
a million Zone passages every 3.5 million years, which
would give a good chance of a million-to-one collision
Hi All:
Another thing against an asteroid impact. If you go to the comet orbit
site at JPL for Holmes, because of its inclination relative to the
ecliptic, it crosses near Mars and Near Jupiter, not in the middle of the
asteroid belt. It passed through the plane of the Solar System back in
Hi all -
We've seen comets fragment into cometissimals while
passing through the plane of our solar system while
near the Sun.
Would there be any regular gravitational force which
might account for Holmes fragmenting, with resulting
collisions with its own debris? Or is there a field of
debris
Hi Again Sterling:
Next plane crossing (at 4.8 AU or so) is in 2 years. At that time Jupiter
is on the other side of the Sun, so the Trojans, which ar, on average, 60
degrees fore and aft of Jupiter not not even close this time around.
So, my bias is a thermal burp (belch). I have seen what an
For you non-astronomical types:
I-filter is 0.9 microns (800 nm)
J-filter is 1.25 microns (1250 nm)
Visible is about 0.6 microns
Larry
On Mon, October 29, 2007 5:29 pm, Ron Baalke wrote:
POSSIBLE DETECTION OF A SHORT TAIL BEHIND COMET 17/P HOLMES
Universite de Montreal
October 29, 2007
Larry, Chris, List
It crosses the plane... at 4.8 AU.
Here's a list of 2278 objects which orbit in the
plane of the ecliptic, almost all of which have their
perihelion at or around a median figure of 4.8 AU
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/JupiterTrojans.html
You're right; I didn't
What's the plausibility of trying to have one of the rovers look at the comet?
I know that they've had them do sky watching before. Mars seems (quick look at
ancient Skyglobe http://www.sidewalkastronomy.com/skyglobe.html) to be in a good
spot in it's orbit to be much closer to the comet than we
This article is interesting, but the problem I have with it, just like the
K-T boundary/Chicxulub event, is that everything hinges on micro-marine
fossils and no dino bones. They also avoid the idea that impacts could
possibly cause volcanic activity elsewhere on the Earth.
The K-Y mass extinction? Earlier today someone mentioned Freudian slips...
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Hi, Mark,
This because it's another puff piece from
Gerta The Asteroid Killer Keller. If you like
to watch someone being ripped to shreds, I think
Smit does a fine job on the incompetent Keller.
http://www.geo.vu.nl/~smit/csdp/debates.htm
(If you're interesting in Chicxulub, you gotta
read
Larry,
Every 81.787865 years (the product of the two
periods of 6.882994 years and 11.8626 years) is
the magic number. For any given crossing point
relative to Jupiter's orbit, the same configuration
will repeat every 81.787865 years. Or, to put it
another way, the position of the Jupiter
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