[meteorite-list] Holmes from Mars

2007-10-30 Thread Don Merchant
According to Starry Night Pro 6 (with the comet updates of today) Comet Holmes is aprox. 1.6249 AU. from Earth with an Apparent Magnitude of 2.61. Now I was able to place my self on the surface of Mars (with the program of course!) and Comet Holmes would be 1.1862 AU. from Mars with an Apparent

Re: [meteorite-list] Holmes from Mars

2007-10-30 Thread lebofsky
Hi Don: Starry Night saves the need of a space suit. John Carter, who did not need a space suit, also did not need a computer program to get him to Mars! I still had my try at this running at home with Starry Night 5.x and the major difference is that the comet is in Cassiopeia. Not a large

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet Holmes

2007-10-30 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Sterling, only a side aspect, which is always disturbing me in general. We're talking about the asteroid belt, families, streams, herds. Whenever in an animation on TV the asteroid belt is shown, a fleet of chunks is valving by like a flock of sheeps (often making silly noise). A common

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread bobe5531
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October30, 2007

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Re: [meteorite-list] Search for Holmes 17P outgass trigger

2007-10-30 Thread E.P. Grondine
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Jeff Kuyken
HAH! I didn't even realise Don. I gave the page a quick look before and got stuck on the image. I missed that it was even a CD because my brain was saying Gibeon! ;-) Cheers, Jeff P.S. Looks a bit like Australia too! ;-) - Original Message - From: Don Rawlings To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Don Rawlings
WOW Where has this piece been hiding all these years? Surely it is not a new find since it is illegal to hunt Meteor Crater. Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/October_30_2007.html ** See what's new at

[meteorite-list] Ensisheim loss/year

2007-10-30 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica
Thanks Paul and Al Metterling. Your links (to Bonham's bidding results) were the only that worked. I believe Michael finally got it as well. Thanks also to all (David, Moritz, Daryll, Mike, Timothy) who replied rapidly. Well, it seems that another 11+ g Ensisheim slice disappeared from

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Floyd Griff Griffith
Ok, remember this is on my Christmas list. I've been a pretty good boy this year Santa Claus, please. Griff Parker, Colorado, USA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list]

Re: [meteorite-list] DinosaurS and the K-Y Mas Extinction

2007-10-30 Thread Jerry
Aren't they splitting hairs here. A major impact causing a major antipodal volcanic event is cool. Sounds as if they're looking for recognition for the obvious. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteoritelist Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent:

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - October 29, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Continues Studies of Rocks on Home Plate - sol 1343-1347, October 29, 2007: Spirit is healthy and continues to investigate Home Plate. After completing extensive studies of Site 3 using the Moessbauer spectrometer and

Re: [meteorite-list] Search for Holmes 17P outgass trigger

2007-10-30 Thread Göran Axelsson
Why not use the orbiters around Mars to do simultaneous observations with Hubble or ground based telescopes. That could create a large baseline for a possible tomographic imaging and a reconstructed 3-dimensional model of the comet. At least they should have a lot better view than the rowers

[meteorite-list] Impact Items, Must See !! - AD

2007-10-30 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List Members, After seeing the Claxton Mailbox sell for over $82,000.00 (buyer's premium added) minus the door, we felt there may be some collector interest in other man-made items struck by a meteorite. My brother, Adam and I mainly collect by rare type so these impacted items do not

[meteorite-list] Dawn Journal - October 24, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Baalke
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_10_24_07.asp Dawn Journal Dr. Marc Rayman October 24, 2007 Dear Extraordawnaires, Dawn's checkout phase continues to go very well. The spacecraft is healthy as it and Earth travel their separate ways, separating at almost 1 light second (nearly 300,000

[meteorite-list] fix brahin take #2

2007-10-30 Thread mckinney trammell
will whoever put the chemical solution to bad brahin please repost? -deleted email. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on my sa

2007-10-30 Thread JKGwilliam
Bob, You make a very good point here. Steve's collecting method, weird as it may seem to some of us, might actually stimulates the meteorite market and the economy in general. I wonder what the outcome would be if everyone took up this same practice? Would our economy improve? Just a

[meteorite-list] ORIENTED SIKOTE-ALIN

2007-10-30 Thread steve arnold
Hello again list.I have received a few private emails from list members concerning the word oriented.I agree with mexico doug,it is diffently up to that person who thinks what is oriented.Like I said,I have seen and held the piece in my hands.It has flow lines,fusion crust,and has alot of

[meteorite-list] Workshop: Ground Truth from Mars - Science Payoff from a Sample Return Mission

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/msr2008/ Ground Truth from Mars: Science Payoff from a Sample Return Mission April 20-23, 2008 Albuquerque, New Mexico SPONSORED BY - Lunar and Planetary Institute NASA Planetary Science Division NASA Mars Exploration Program Institute of Meteoritics CONVENERS

Re: [meteorite-list] ORIENTED SIKOTE-ALIN

2007-10-30 Thread bobe5531
Oh come on Steve, Orientation has absolutely nothing to do with an persons interpretation. Orientation will have obvious proof that the meteorite maintained a stable flight for a significant duration of its descent. Sorry flow lines dont cut it. Last time I was at the Tucson show and that one

Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan Influence or Pairings

2007-10-30 Thread PolandMET
Hi Dirk and List, A lot of the pairing problems originate directly from the Moroccan dealers. Case in point, the Martian material paired to NWA 2975. They distributed the material inmasse during the Ensisheim Show to a lot of people. If the original Moroccan dealers (Aziz Habibi and Mohamed

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread bobe5531
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim loss/year

2007-10-30 Thread PolandMET
Roughly, considering the 70 kg figure, this leads to an average of 57 kg lost in 515 years, i.e. almost 500 g per year! A fortune! And how many kilos dissapear every year on sahara becouse of weathering ! How many kilos we change into dust becouse of cuting every year. We are barbarians :D

[meteorite-list] AD: 100 EBAY LOTS, CV3, MESOSIDERITE, AUCKLAND ARTIFACTS

2007-10-30 Thread dean bessey
I have around 100 ebay auctions ending today - many still no bid at 99 cents. Lots of bargains. Some highlights include an hole created by a meteorite here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=190166296110 You dont often see that. 10 Kilos only $400

Re: [meteorite-list] my new dragon sa (oriented)

2007-10-30 Thread Adam Hupe
Steve, Althoug the Dragon is very impressive, I think the Golden Gobbler (new proposed name for the Thanksgiving Turkey SA) will take the cake for stabilized flight as can be seen by the port side feathers all pointing aft. Although the starboard side was heavily damaged during flight, the

[meteorite-list] FW: Auctions Ending Today, See Highlighted Links, New CV3 Slices and Howardite Specimens (Large Ones!)

2007-10-30 Thread michael cottingham
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:48 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: Auctions Ending Today, See Highlighted Links, New CV3 Slices and Howardite Specimens (Large Ones!) Hello Everyone, Today

Re: [meteorite-list] fix brahin take #2

2007-10-30 Thread ensoramanda
Hi, Is this the post you mean? Hi, You could try the galvanic method of preserving and getting rid of the chlorides that cause this in the first place... http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/Galvanic.pdf I have used it successfully on Morasko and Campo slices but have no idea how the proccess

[meteorite-list] FW: Some of the largest and Finest CV3 Specimens ever offered from NWA 3118!

2007-10-30 Thread michael cottingham
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:27 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: Some of the largest and Finest CV3 Specimens ever offered from NWA 3118! Hello, Another more specific note… Here are some

Re: [meteorite-list] ORIENTATION'/Definition

2007-10-30 Thread Michael L Blood
on 10/30/07 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh come on Steve, Orientation has absolutely nothing to do with an persons interpretation. Orientation will have obvious proof that the meteorite maintained a stable flight for a significant duration of its descent. Sorry

[meteorite-list] Oriented or Pornographic...could be the start of a unique themed collection!

2007-10-30 Thread ensoramanda
Now if we are just discussing oriented meteorites...take a look at this!!! Or is it just pornographic :-[ http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-Choice-Oriented-Unique-Sikhote-Alin-26g_W0QQitemZ200148047830QQihZ010QQcategoryZ3239QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem Could be the start of a unique themed

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or Pornographic...could be the start of a unique themed collection!

2007-10-30 Thread Jerry A. Wallace
Graham, I think you're right about that. Seems as if Michael ought to supply some of that K-Y Boundary material I've been reading about with that specimen. Jerry W. ensoramanda wrote: Now if we are just discussing oriented meteorites...take a look at this!!! Or is it just pornographic

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet Holmes

2007-10-30 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Larry, List Sitting up late at night and being too rusty to do things the hard way, I used the simulator at http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=17porb=1 and am doing just what they say NOT to do, namely, run it for decades and decades... If you tilt the view all the way over to a

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or Pornographic...could be the start of a unique themed collection!

2007-10-30 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:32:03 -0500, you wrote: ensoramanda wrote: Now if we are just discussing oriented meteorites...take a look at this!!! Or is it just pornographic :-[

[meteorite-list] best meteowrong, yet

2007-10-30 Thread mckinney trammell
email for pix. this thing fakes out the public like all get out. found in a fl field- WHAT IS IT? no magnetism, brittle, black crust, all metal, crystals, etc. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

Re: [meteorite-list] ORIENTED SIKOTE-ALIN

2007-10-30 Thread Mr EMan
That isn't what I asked, and for the record I did say it was an attractive specimen. I asked you, Steve how it was oriented?-- not who said it was oriented. I'd like to be the judge on that based on your description/defense of your claim. I am still waiting for you to describe what features of

[meteorite-list] Fw: New Issue: Magnetite crystals in ALH 84001

2007-10-30 Thread Jerry
more negative evidence for life on mars from shock experiments on ALH 84001, BUT!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: PSRD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: New Issue: Magnetite crystals in ALH 84001 Announcement from

Re: [meteorite-list] best meteowrong, yet

2007-10-30 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: email for pix. this thing fakes out the public like all get out. found in a fl field- WHAT IS IT? no magnetism, brittle, black crust, all metal, crystals, etc. Hosted here: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/wrongs/

Re: [meteorite-list] best meteowrong, yet

2007-10-30 Thread mckinney trammell
anybody know what this stuff might be? --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: email for pix. this thing fakes out the public like all get out. found in a fl field- WHAT IS IT? no magnetism, brittle, black crust, all metal,

Re: [meteorite-list] best meteorwrong

2007-10-30 Thread Michael Murray
What does a streak test indicate, bronze/brown? What's it's true colour, light bronze/yellow? How heavy, 4.5 - 5? Where was it found, Sudbury, Ontario? Possibly Pentlandite. Mike in CO __ Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or... GEOPORNOMORPHISM

2007-10-30 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All, Examples of Geopornomorphism: http://static.flickr.com/75/156962558_f8d199eb66.jpg http://www.hawaiiweb.com/molokai/html/sites/phallic_rock.html http://www.theglobalguy.com/wp-photos/mongolia/phalic-rock.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/32/45817693_dcc9492c37_m.jpg

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Keith, Are you sure that's not a Gibeon? I've seen a good few Canyon Diablo's and Gibeon's, and, to be frank, I've seen a number of Gib's like it, and no CD's that've looked remotely similar. The patina is pretty typical of Gibeon as well, rather different than your average Canyon

Re: [meteorite-list] best meteowrong, yet

2007-10-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hello 'Mckinney Trammell,' All Right - if I'm not mistaken, the supposed Mojave iron meteorite similar to Albion, from ebay...well... It looks like slag/metal production waste (those bubbles are pretty telling), or maybe the result of some smelting gone-awry. The texture's rather off for

Re: [meteorite-list] best meteowrong, yet

2007-10-30 Thread Ken Newton
(Oops, last two didn't go thru, one more time) Jason and McKinney, I agree with you. Both McKinney's items and those of ebay seller 'kingjamesvi' appear to be ferrochromanganese. see: http://meteorite-identification.com/hotrocks.html Bob Verish has done more research on this. Check out his

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 30, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread Jason Utas
Hello MIke, Keith, All, Haha, alright; I find it odd that you'd go so far as to state that it's simply the best that's ever been found, when it, in all likelihood, it isn't, but as to your other comment, I'd like to say that I wasn't trying to accuse Keith of anything. Simply put, it looks like a

Re: [meteorite-list] best meteowrong, yet

2007-10-30 Thread mckinney trammell
so is this stuff dangerous? --- Ken Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Oops, last two didn't go thru, one more time) Jason and McKinney, I agree with you. Both McKinney's items and those of ebay seller 'kingjamesvi' appear to be ferrochromanganese. see:

[meteorite-list] Mars and beyond

2007-10-30 Thread Michael Murray
Hi List, If you haven't seen this panorama, you got to take a minute to go 'round 360 with it. I'd like a few minutes of hunting meteorites there, eh? Some celestial neighbors to be found in the sky as well. No, that's not 17P/Holmes.

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet Holmes

2007-10-30 Thread Chauncey Walden
Sterling Webb wrote: (Has anybody done spectra for Holmes?! A little IR would be nice.) Sterling, that reminded me that I have a large book with a large title - Atlas of Representative Cometary Spectra. I checked and although it had data for lots of comets (including Encke), it didn't

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 31, 2007

2007-10-30 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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[meteorite-list] Mysteries of the Chesapeake Bay crater

2007-10-30 Thread Paul
Crater research finds answers, unearths more questions By DIANE TENNANT, The Virginian-Pilot http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=135718ran=213646tref=po Paul H. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet Holmes

2007-10-30 Thread Chris Peterson
Some preliminary spectrometry is reported on here: http://menkescientific.com/Comet17P-Holmes.pdf Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chauncey

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet Holmes

2007-10-30 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Thanks for the try, but I was hoping some observatory would do spectra on this outburst. Since the last outburst was in 1893, there would be no spectroscopy since! This would explain why it wasn't in even the most complete references. Holmes has been coma-free until now. I just hope

[meteorite-list] Anyone tried this book?

2007-10-30 Thread Darren Garrison
Just ran across it tonight. Sounds like a good one. http://www.amazon.com/Asteroid-Rendezvous-NEAR-Shoemakers-Adventures/dp/0521813603/ Also wondering if anyone has a scan of this (only 7 pages) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007JWK98/ __

[meteorite-list] ??? LUNAR METEORITE OLIVINE GABBRO 190 GRAM PIECE NICE!

2007-10-30 Thread Norbert Heike Kammel
Hello Folks, can any of you scientific orientated members shed a bit of light onto all this high-tech description, please? I am just wondering ,why such an important and valuable find *'over 11,150 lbs !' , $$ MILLIONS OF DOLLARS worth $$ ! ***has not officially been analyzed and a