[meteorite-list] Could meteorite discovery weaken dark energy's case?

2008-02-28 Thread Darren Garrison
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn13392-could-meteorite-discovery-weaken-dark-energys-case.html Could meteorite discovery weaken dark energy's case? 19:00 28 February 2008 NewScientist.com news service Stephen Battersby Whiskers of carbon found in ancient meteorites could hold clues to t

[meteorite-list] Key To Life Before Its Origin On Earth May Have Been Discovered

2008-02-28 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080228174823.htm Key To Life Before Its Origin On Earth May Have Been Discovered ScienceDaily (Feb. 29, 2008) — An important discovery has been made with respect to the mystery of "handedness" in biomolecules. Researchers led by Sandra Pizzarello, a res

[meteorite-list] Graphite Whiskers, Rather Than Dark Energy, Could Explain Dimness Of Stellar Explosions

2008-02-28 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080228143538.htm Graphite Whiskers, Rather Than Dark Energy, Could Explain Dimness Of Stellar Explosions ScienceDaily (Feb. 29, 2008) — Interstellar space may be strewn with tiny whiskers of carbon, dimming the light of far-away objects. This discovery

[meteorite-list] AD: Available for Trade

2008-02-28 Thread Dave Gheesling
Hello, List, I have a few specimens remaining on my Available for Trade list for those that might be interested in trading: http://www.fallingrocks.com/trade.htm With this kind of material I'd be interested in trading for either Georgia meteorites or witnessed falls that I don't already have. G

[meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Metorman46
Hello Ted; An excellent scientific solution and answer to a dead end argument about crater and impact forming collisions by an exterrestial object with earth.I think. Hope to hear from you more in the future,and i really enjoyed the nwa 2828 EL3 page.Again an excellent scientific solution

Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote alin at Meteor Crater: Hexahedrite

2008-02-28 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 2/28/2008 2:16:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi After Tucson show, I stop by the Meteor Crater. In the exhibition there is a display with a few iron meteorites which include a Sikhote alin which is labeled as Hexahedrite. I talked with a man fro

[meteorite-list] Novice collector looking for micromount trades

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Listmembers! I am looking to take advantage of the buyer's market on rare meteorite specimens before the world snaps back to it's senses and the prices go back up. I recently scored a nice Vaca Muerta from Mr. Cottingham for the criminally-low final bid of 99 cents. These are indeed good time

[meteorite-list] Fw: Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Jerry
I'm forwarding this since it didn't show up the first time. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Jerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Bunch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam"

[meteorite-list] AD: Massive Libyan Desert glass sale for 24 hours

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Hello list members, I just received a 120 kilo Libyan Desert Glass shipment. I am sending most on to China for making jewelry, but am sorting out the best material today, that I do not want destroyed. I am offering to list members, 500 gram lots for $700.00 or 1 kilo lots for $1000.00 5 kilo lots

Re: [meteorite-list] removing lacquer question

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Mason
We remove this stuff every day. Go to your automotive aftermarket store. Buy a small can of paint stripper - apply and wait 30+ minutes and then wash off with water. Bill Mason "rusty" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Grossman Sent: Th

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater...recovered amount

2008-02-28 Thread ensoramanda
According to the Bolivian mineral dealers several kilos went over the border, much of which I was told was sold to someone in Japan. A lot is still being sold out of Bolivia. At the moment on ebay..some larger pieces. Item number: 170197093360 Item number: 180212970860 Item number: 18019980615

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread ensoramanda
Michael Farmer wrote: Tim, it is somewhere in the 10 kilo range, giv or take a kilo. Of the 10 kilos I know of, about 6 kilograms was fine dust in baggies. Hans Koser has this material, he was trying to sell it at the Tucson show. Moritz Karl and I bought the other ~3 kilos he had, and most of

Re: [meteorite-list] removing lacquer question

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Grossman
Fumes are strong and highly flammable! Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: "Mike Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "jim brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] removing lacquer question > Hi Jim most people use acetone

Re: [meteorite-list] removing lacquer question

2008-02-28 Thread Mike Miller
Hi Jim most people use acetone on a clean rag, you will need gloves and only use it in a well ventilated area as the fumes are very strong. A final rinse with alcohol is not a bad idea. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM, jim brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings listees >I'm hopi

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - February 14, 2008

2008-02-28 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Opportunity Proceeds with Caution on Sandy Slopes - sol 1437-1443, Feb 14, 2008: After recovering from a stall in Joint 1, which controls the compass orientation of the shoulder on the rover's robotic arm, Opportu

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Adam Hupe
Mike, I do not understand why this hashed out thread was started again by you as it is barely worthy of the bandwidth. I am not the one who started the impact pit versus crater debate months ago. I expressed my opinion at the time so why am I being the target of this immature string about who is r

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Tim, it is somewhere in the 10 kilo range, giv or take a kilo. Of the 10 kilos I know of, about 6 kilograms was fine dust in baggies. Hans Koser has this material, he was trying to sell it at the Tucson show. Moritz Karl and I bought the other ~3 kilos he had, and most of that is sold now. I have l

[meteorite-list] NWA 4522 - Interesting Pieces, Pictures!

2008-02-28 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello Mark and List, "4522 is one of the most beautiful chondrites I've seen in my (limited) collecting experience. Here's a composite of a few of my slices:" http://meteorites.cc/nwa4522-col.jpg I can't help but agree and that's why there are four slices of this beautiful LL3.5 chondrite in my

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Thanks for clarifying that Ted. Michael Farmer --- Ted Bunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not sure why there is an argument about whether > or not Carancas is an > impact crater. Of course it is! In scientific > terminology, impact pit is not > acceptable. Let's review the facts: > > 1) T

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Tim Heitz
Has any one ever determined how much of was recovered? Thanks, Tim - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam" Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater Adam Yo

[meteorite-list] Sikhote alin at Meteor Crater: Hexahedrite

2008-02-28 Thread Eduardo.
Hi After Tucson show, I stop by the Meteor Crater. In the exhibition there is a display with a few iron meteorites which include a Sikhote alin which is labeled as Hexahedrite. I talked with a man from there and I pointed the mistake. He told me that the display was there for several years. Any

[meteorite-list] NWA 4522 - Interesting Pieces, Pictures!

2008-02-28 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello Mark and List, "4522 is one of the most beautiful chondrites I've seen in my (limited) collecting experience. Here's a composite of a few of my slices:" http://meteorites.cc/nwa4522-col.jpg I can't help but agree and that's why there are four slices of this beautiful LL3.5 chondrite in my

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Bunch
I am not sure why there is an argument about whether or not Carancas is an impact crater. Of course it is! In scientific terminology, impact pit is not acceptable. Let's review the facts: 1) The Carancas crater was produced by a hypervelocity impactor that excavated a deep hole and formed a raised

[meteorite-list] removing lacquer question

2008-02-28 Thread jim brady
Greetings listees I'm hoping someone can enlighten me with regards to removing lacquer from a small Imilac specimen.I've tried googling this and visited Eric Twelkers site and a few others but while the subject is broached there are no specifics.Any advice gratefully accepted all the

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Adam You told everyone on this list that Carancas was not a crater, you have been proven wrong, I was proven right with the papers in the news this week, I am merely clarifying that, nothing more. Now, what problem is it of mine that uneducated idiots pissed in the crater? Does that ruin the event,

[meteorite-list] Craters and impact pits in my databases

2008-02-28 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello "Craterists" and "Impact Pit-ists" A search for "impact pit" in my databases yielded these results: 1) Akyumak, IVA A mass of between 45 and 50 kg fell, with associated light and sound effects, making an impact pit 50 cm in diameter and about 90cm deep. 2) Binningup, H5 An almost complet

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:17:56 +0100, you wrote: >I guess terminology is always descriptive. >Hence it can't change the objects, that it describes. > "A rose by any other name"... You could have quoted Shakespeare in it's original German. :-) >The hole in Carancas will stay the same, no matter i

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4522 - Interesting Pieces, Pictures!

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Crawford
4522 is one of the most beautiful chondrites I've seen in my (limited) collecting experience. Here's a composite of a few of my slices: http://meteorites.cc/nwa4522-col.jpg Mark Pete Pete wrote: Absolutely beautiful, Carsten! Pictures to save, for sure. What does the fusion crust look like

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Martin Altmann
I guess terminology is always descriptive. Hence it can't change the objects, that it describes. The hole in Carancas will stay the same, no matter if it's called "crater" or "pit". (crater is Latin, means chalice) Skol! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread mmorgan
All: See the site (http://unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase). On the first page you will find the criteria for inclusion within this database (which is the most comprehensive and well-researched list on the planet). Sikhote-Alin is listed, Carancas is not (yet?). Also note Wabar and Haviland, both of

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Adam Hupe
Mike and List, I conceded the point long ago that the term crater also applies to the Carancas event. I also stated that there are different types of craters and this one falls into the impact pit category as was the case with the Sikhote Alin event. Some of the craters (impact pits) left by Sik

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread bobe5531
Why would anyone consider the Carancas impact a " Pit " ? Never heard of impact pits on the moon. Heard of impact pits on SA's. The crater is " non - meteoritic " That doesnt make any sense. Are you suggesting that something other that the meteorite created the crater ? Please elaborate on th

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Farmer
I did not realize that the website you listed was the definitive and final place which determines craters vs pits. It seems that some of the top scientists in the world think that it is a crater, perhaps you should enlighten them. Carancas is a crater, and I am not sure:), but I do believe that the

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Chris Peterson
Hi Mike- Being _highly_ skeptical that the Carancas event was hypervelocity or crater forming was an entirely appropriate attitude during the first days. After all, not a year goes by that we don't get stories out of usually backwater places about fiery meteorites, destroyed homes, and crater

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Mike and List Members, To me, Carancas produced an "impact pit" which is a form of crater. I will concede the point that it is also a crater by other definitions, just not meteoritic. The Sikhote Alin event also produced several impact pits that were described as such further constraining the

[meteorite-list] GRA 06128/9 = brachinite

2008-02-28 Thread Randy Korotev
The confusion here is that the original O-isotope data, the data published in the original announcement, are NOT consistent with brachinites, whereas newer data in the Rumble et al. abstract (#1974) and Zeigler et al. (#2456) abstract that Adam mentions below ARE consistent with brachinites.

[meteorite-list] Carancas crater

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Farmer
At least the fact that Carancas is a meteorite crater is resolved. I recall you refusing to accept that it was a crater. Michael Farmer --- Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sterling and List, > > This abstract clearly states that GRA 06128/9 oxygen > isotopes plot with the Brachinites:

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4522 - Interesting Pieces, Pictures!

2008-02-28 Thread Moni Waiblinger
Good Morning from sunny California , and Danke Carsten! What a beauty! Did you have thin sections made? They would be outstanding too! Nice meteorite, very nice looking!!! With best regards, Moni > > http://www.gi-po.de/ebayfolder/nwa4522incl/4522inc.html

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4522 -Interesting Pieces - Pictures!

2008-02-28 Thread Carsten Giessler
Dear Pete, 99% of the pieces i have don't show any fusion crust. They have the typical chocolate-like brownish outside. At a few spots is still some crust, no primary crust, but most of it is weathered or sanblasted away. I will post some pictures when i found the time. Best greetings, Cars

[meteorite-list] nwa 4522

2008-02-28 Thread steve arnold
Hi list,carsten and all.Your NWA 4522 looks alot like the CHONDRULE CONGLOMERATE.It has very nice chondrule distribution and very nice crust on it.The colors of the chondrules are very eye catching.Way to go.A very nice meteorite.Is there any forsale? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The As

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4522 - Interesting Pieces, Pictures!

2008-02-28 Thread Pete Pete
Absolutely beautiful, Carsten! Pictures to save, for sure. What does the fusion crust look like? Would you have any shots of that to post? Best, Pete > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:03:37 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 4

[meteorite-list] NWA 4522 - Interesting Pieces, Pictures!

2008-02-28 Thread Carsten Giessler
Hello List, i wanted to show some very interesting pictures of NWA 4522, a LL3 Chondrite. This two slices come from different stones, but from the same meteorite. One slice shows the "normal" texture of NWA 4522, most of the material shows a texture which looks like this. But this slice show

[meteorite-list] I saw the fire-ball on CNN in Washington...

2008-02-28 Thread Leigh Anne DelRay
And was wondering if there have been any meteorites found there? Anyone know? Curious, Leigh Anne Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.

[meteorite-list] EL3 vs Aubrite Finally Settled

2008-02-28 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hey Tom & all, As Tom mentioned, a page of very interesting reading has now been presented on the NAU website. I agree with Tom... it's a great overview of the whole situation and I too, highly recommend taking a look at it. And don't miss the section towards the bottom titled "Problems and propos

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 28, 2008

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/February_28_2008.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending

2008-02-28 Thread Jim Strope
Good Morning All I have auctions ending tonight, ebay ID catchafallingstar.com. ALL started just at 99 Cents!!! http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcatchafallingstar.com Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteor

[meteorite-list] Ad: terrestrial Dunite for sale... great analog for comparision

2008-02-28 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, I am offering affordable terrestrial Dunite (with analysis completed) specimens for sale. These samples will make a useful comparative specimen for any serious meteorite collector. Please contact me directly for more details and price. Thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo First come first