[meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread drtanuki
Dear list,   Steve Arnold Chicago  has another Ebay scam?; pulling the auction the day of the auction and cancelling all bids. Or Steve do you have a very good explanation? Potential buyers or bidders beware!  And whoever purchased the meteorite outside of EBAY, if they did, you are just

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 21, 2009

2009-08-21 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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[meteorite-list] Dedication To Meteorites

2009-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi listees, I'd like to share something with you guys. Some of you have probably seen this photo already as it's on Farmer's site. I simply want to single this one image out because it sums up everything about meteorites and why we love them so much in one single image. Every now and then I

Re: [meteorite-list] Three Strikes and You're Out

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi all, I don't know. I read tons of postings, how horrible and how ugly this meteorite list is, endless criticism and complaints. Don't you see, what we all do have with this list? Doesn't that never-ebbing well of top information outweigh by far the permanent misbehaviour of three, four

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
what would the IMCAs stance be? Would the members be just as ready to remove them? Sure. See the Code of Ethics. But you need evidence and you have to complain. Anyway, I don't know, why people are buying such sensible goods like metorites from ebay, if they don't know the sellers at all and if

[meteorite-list] Ooops..... Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebayscams

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Apologies. Last post was for the IMCA mailing list, not for the meteorite mailing list. Should have read the return address better. All these lists and fora. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] Belgian Fireball of 15AUG09 update

2009-08-21 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Major update on the Belgian bolide of 15AUG09: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Thank you Vincent from Belgium!! Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread John Gwilliam
Dirk and List, Friday morning editorial. It will be interesting to see how Steve Arnold Chicago responds to this allegation, that is, if he responds at all. My guess is that he'll go into hiding for a time and then reappear as if nothing has happened. But, in all fairness, I'm willing to

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams

2009-08-21 Thread Anita Westlake
I have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with a dishonest member of this list myself. He had stuff on eBay (it wasn't even a meteorite!) and he had a Buy It Now price on it. I wanted that particular piece and contacted him immediately, saying I would buy it for that price. He told me

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread GeoZay
If your support of someone is colored by free beer, personal favors or, in this case, freebie meteorites, then maybe it's time to take a look in the mirror. Well...I looked in the mirror and I didn't see any guilt. If someone wants to give me something free and there's no strings

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread Matthias Bärmann
No naysayer at all, John. Thanks for your objective and noble statement. Thanks also to Dirk for his attempt to bring a bit more light into this case. A nice weekend to everyone, my best, Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam j...@cox.net To: drtanuki

[meteorite-list] AD : Rare Types for Sale - Ureilite, Shergottite, Brachinite, CO3.3, Nakhlite, more.

2009-08-21 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List! I have some new offerings that are worth a look - A 1.1 gram endcut of ureilite that has beautiful glossy fusion crust on it. A small part-slice of brachinite with lots of surface area and a good polish. The newest, and most unusual, anomalous Shergottite - micromount with fusion

Re: [meteorite-list] Belgian Fireball of 15AUG09 update

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Bandli
Belgian fireball? There is nothing I would want more than to stand in line at the Westvletren Monastery for a case of the Abt 12 Trappist Ale, and to have some fine chocolate, and to hunt meteorites all at the same time... this would be heaven and those of you lucky enough to taste the Abt 12 know

[meteorite-list] Rob Elliott Auction Article with Photo's

2009-08-21 Thread matt
Angus Self attended the auction and has written an article for the British and Irish Meteorite Society website, you can read the article at http://www.bimsociety.org/article-auction.shtml Whilst your there please feel free to check out the rest of the site, new members are always welcome!

Re: [meteorite-list] Belgian Fireball of 15AUG09 update

2009-08-21 Thread GeoZay
Major update on the Belgian bolide of 15AUG09: Has this been definitely shown not to be a Perseid? Was it coming from the general direction of the Perseid radiant by any chance? Did it trail very long in the sky? About how fast did it seem to travel to the witnesses point of view? Very

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi listees, I probably shouldn't respond to this. But it is related to meteorites. This is NOT an attack on anyone, but rather something to add a little perspective to the situation. I too have spoken with Dirk on many occasions and find him a rather interesting guy to speak with. He's

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part3+

2009-08-21 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Hello GeoZay, I'm sure nobody would begrudge you the presents you received. In any case, my personal experience says: presents can be dangerous as they knot an invisible ribbon between two persons. Not by chance old cultures often developed highly complecated rules and systems of giving and

Re: [meteorite-list] Rob Elliott Auction Article with Photo's

2009-08-21 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha Matt, That was a fine article with many pictures of meteorites over which one can easily go gaga (6.95kg Estherville I'm still drooling over) ;^P While at the site, I did as you suggested and perused the Flowlines online magazine. What a wonderful periodical with many articles of

Re: [meteorite-list] Rob Elliott Auction Article with Photo's

2009-08-21 Thread Pekka Savolainen
didn't you know fujihara is a fine Irish name ? Yap, originally Fuji O´Hara ;-) have a nice weekend, pekka s __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2009-08-21 Thread Greg Stanley
Thanks everyone, I found this very interesting. I wonder how much ALH 84001 would sell for if it went to market? Greg S. From: stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:26:17 -0700 Subject:

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
In light of the earlier proposal that all criticisms be phrased in the form of poetry, I quickly wrote this little ditty: `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. Beware Steve Arnold, my son! The jaws

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part3+

2009-08-21 Thread GeoZay
MathiasIn any case, my personal experience says: presents can be dangerous as they knot an invisible ribbon between two persons. Not by chance old cultures often developed highly complecated rules and systems of giving and receiving. It's sometimes not such an easy and innocent affair.

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread John Gwilliam
The sellers motive for closing an auction early and canceling all bids should indeed be taken into account. If the item is broken, stolen or you find out it does not function properly after you listed it, then you have a legitimate reason to close an auction early and cancel bids. This

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of Steve Arnold Chicago Ebay scams part 3+

2009-08-21 Thread GeoZay
In light of the earlier proposal that all criticisms be phrased in the form of poetry, I quickly wrote this little ditty: `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. Beware Steve Arnold, my son! The jaws

Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2009-08-21 Thread Jeff Grossman
Probably 5-10 (years). At 12:23 PM 8/21/2009, Greg Stanley wrote: Thanks everyone, I found this very interesting. I wonder how much ALH 84001 would sell for if it went to market? Greg S. From: stanleygr...@hotmail.com To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, I have had a lot of time to ponder what some of these Antarctic planetary pieces would go for. My guess is that they would start out real high and then become less and less as the market reaches saturation. It would take less than 300 grams of any Martian meteorite to

[meteorite-list] no scam/no fraud/ just a trade

2009-08-21 Thread steve arnold
There was no scamming or frauding. here It was only trade that mike johnson and me made.We had been talking about this for a few weeks and it finally beared fruit.I traded the piece to him,and in turn I am getting some great pieces.It just continues to amaze me of all the wasted bandwidth that

[meteorite-list] UPDATE: Meteorite AD Spots 1 Year $99

2009-08-21 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Listees, Yesterday I posted an announcement that I was offering 125x125 pixel advertising spots on the MeteoritesUSA.com home page to dealers and website owners with meteorite related websites. Since then I've had good response through email, but only one spot is taken. A little confused

Re: [meteorite-list] How do you pronounce Muonionalusta?

2009-08-21 Thread Thomas Österberg
Hi Richard, Muonionalusta is pronounced quite close to it's spelling with some focus on the first part Muon. Anyway, since I'm Swedish I also find it quite difficult to pronounce this Finnish word (very much an exercise for your lips and tongue). Perhaps, a good idea would be to take

Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2009-08-21 Thread Walter Branch
Ohhh, nice Jeff, very nice!!! -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question Probably 5-10 (years). At 12:23 PM 8/21/2009, Greg Stanley

Re: [meteorite-list] How do you pronounce Muonionalusta?

2009-08-21 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Most of the Finnish dialects spoken in the Province of Lapland are of the Northern Finnish dialect group, which are also spoken in Sweden and northern Norway. The Sámi language has had a great influence on the vocabulary of these dialects. Sámi words have been loaned for depicting nature,

[meteorite-list] AD-ebay auctions ending Saturday

2009-08-21 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha, I have some pohaku (stone) and hao (iron) meteorites ku'ai emi (for sale) on ebay, ending tomorrow, Saturday around this time (18:30 GMT), featuring a perfect Bassi, flowline covered Chergach, olivine encrusted NWA pallasite frag, oriented NWA 869, a couple of Campos and a 152g

Re: [meteorite-list] Belgian Fireball of 15AUG09 update

2009-08-21 Thread GeoZay
The bolide is definitely not linked to Perseids. General direction of this bolide is from East to West, reported on map. Witnesses observed it at different position in the sky, depending of location: From the Netherland, the bolide was observed on south horizon. From Center of

[meteorite-list] ISO: Mirko Graul

2009-08-21 Thread Greg Catterton
Mirko, can you send me an email? I would like to talk to you about NWA 5678 and compare notes. Thanks! Greg C. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] How do you pronounce Muonionalusta?

2009-08-21 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Pekka! As a hockey fan, I learned to pronounce Teemu Selanne, but Muonionalusta has always eluded me! Thanks for the pronunciation guide. :) Best regards, MikeG On 8/21/09, Pekka Savolainen nuu...@dlc.fi wrote: Most of the Finnish dialects spoken in the Province of Lapland are of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Trim Saw?

2009-08-21 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Richard, I hope you are not planning on using a tile blade with that saw. The kerf will take away a large portion of any meteorite you cut. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent:

Re: [meteorite-list] Trim Saw?

2009-08-21 Thread Richard Kowalski
Hi Walter, No I am not. I think the blade that comes with the saw is 0.04 or 0.06. YIKES! That will be for tiles only! I have ordered some other blades, 0.012 0.008, for meteorites. But thanks for checking. -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Fri, 8/21/09,

[meteorite-list] Cloudy Nights Space Rocks Forum

2009-08-21 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, As a follow-up from yesterday's posting about the website Cloudy Nights, I would like to invite fellow Meteorite Central list members to check out the Space Rocks forum at Cloudy Nights. Not as an alternative to Meteorite Central, but simply as a nice place to visit and post.

Re: [meteorite-list] Cloudy Nights Space Rocks Forum

2009-08-21 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Walter and List, I just wanted to comment on a couple of points that Walter raised about Cloudy Nights. First, Cloudy Nights (CN) is not a competitor for Art's List. It is more of an accessory to it, from a meteorite standpoint. CN is a huge forum system with a daily traffic count that

Re: [meteorite-list] no scam/no fraud/ just a trade

2009-08-21 Thread Mexicodoug
Hi Dirk, Regarding your disappointment in Steve for the very nice 1.2 kg Jalu, it is worth it to review the requirements for the unmentionable: Backing out on eBay: eBay Auction Cancellation (General) Sellers rights: eBay earns the insertion fee from the Seller and won't prohibit Sellers

Re: [meteorite-list] Cloudy Nights Space Rocks Forum

2009-08-21 Thread Fred Bieler
Since Walter was nice enough to bring up Cloudy Nights, I'd just like to add that you can browse all the fora on CN without being a member, including Space Rocks, but you have to be a member to post messages. And now a word from our sponsor: if you are a Cloudy Nights member (which you can join

Re: [meteorite-list] no scam/no fraud? Really?

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Blood
Steve, What you seem to miss in this (besides grammar) Is that once ANYONE bids on an auction, the seller is taking The meteorite from them their your own purpose - it is illegal In all states in terms of auction laws. Furthermore, eBay does NOT allow any auction to be canceled, because I

[meteorite-list] Perseid Meteor Hammerstone!

2009-08-21 Thread Phil Whitmer
Yet another Perseid meteor strikes the Earth! This one's a hammerstone! Any chance that nearby passing train kicked up a piece of railroad rock? Nah.. Phil Whitmer http://www.gethampshire.co.uk/news/s/2056117_meteorite_shatters_mans_conservatory 'Meteorite' shatters man's conservatory

Re: [meteorite-list] Perseid Meteor Hammerstone!

2009-08-21 Thread Greg Stanley
No... rocks don't fly up, they fall down. It's a Enstatite chondrite - just by looking at it with a microscope. It would be nice to see a picture of it, and the railroad gravel too. Greg S. From: prairiecac...@rtcol.com To:

Re: [meteorite-list] How do you pronounce Muonionalusta?

2009-08-21 Thread Richard Kowalski
Hi all, I got some interesting responses to this question. ten Two were posted to the list and those I'll repeat first. Thomas Österberg wrote on the list: Muonionalusta is pronounced quite close to it's spelling with some focus on the first part Muon. Pekka Savolainen wrote on the list: Mu-

[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - August 19, 2009

2009-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES August 19, 2009 o Scarp-Fed Dark Dunes http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010344_2655 o Fissure-Vent along Cerberus Fossae http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_006999_1965 o Well-Exposed Scarp along Nili Fossae

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: August 17-21, 2009

2009-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES August 17-21, 2009 o Dunes in IR (Released 17 August 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090817a o Dunes in IR (Released 18 August 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090818a o Dunes in IR (Released 19 August 2009) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20090819a o Russell

[meteorite-list] Jumping Asteroids

2009-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=2286 Jumping Asteroids Jet Propulsion Laboratory August 18, 2009 How our solar system was formed has fascinated scientists and laymen alike for -- well, for a really, really long time. New research may have answered a piece to the puzzle -

Re: [meteorite-list] no scam/no fraud/ just a trade

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Well seems, that we are a little bit more advanced in Germany. Here in Germany to set up an auction on ebay is the expression of the will of the seller to offer a buying contract. That offer is binding, full stop. No matter, what the rules on the ebay pages are telling. If the seller cancels

[meteorite-list] Second Test Rover Added to Driving Experiments

2009-08-21 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-129 Second Test Rover Added to Driving Experiments Jet Propulsion Laboratory August 21, 2009 A second, lighter-weight test rover has entered the testing setup at JPL where rover team members are assessing strategy for getting Spirit out of

[meteorite-list] AD: Last Ad For Awhile- Last Chance For This Specimen -Ends In 2 Hours- Also, BIG BIG THANKS TO ALL!

2009-08-21 Thread michael cottingham
Hello, Super BIG, BIG, THANKS to all the folks who purchased meteorites from me this week. Economy Bad? Maybe? BUT This week was my best August Sales Week on Record and THE 3rd Best Ebay Sales Week in 10 years of doing ebay. How much was it? Well, that would not be proper to tell you,

[meteorite-list] Ad Sale auctions on ebay, some ending by Saturday evening 8-22-09. Zagami, Lake Murray, Overland Park, Tulia (a), NWA 801, Korra Korrabes, Boxhole, Hope Creek with Crust, Miles, Uva

2009-08-21 Thread Brian Cox
Hello fellow Meteorite Collectors, I hope you're having a great weekend! This is my first post since last Friday! ;-) I listed a few meteorites on ebay and there are a few ending within the next 24 hours, on Saturday evening. Please have a look. ZAGAMI Meteorite IMCA COA MARS SHERGOTTITE

[meteorite-list] list meteorite sales for free, no fees ever

2009-08-21 Thread Joe Kerchner
Hello listees, You can list anything meteorite related for sale free in our classified section of the SkyRock Cafe, list as many as sales and as often as you want. We have quite a bit of traffic and a good number of active members, over 11,000 hits per day. You items will be seen. Hope you

[meteorite-list] Aluminum helps date the solar system

2009-08-21 Thread Darren Garrison
Article about it: http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2009/August/21080902.asp PDF of the paper: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/article/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] list meteorite sales for free, no fees ever

2009-08-21 Thread Brian Cox
Hi Joe, How are you doing? I always get thrown off when I see Illinois Meteorites since Steve Arnold # 1, # 2 or Big Steve or whichever name someone is calling the poor guy today is something like Meteoritesillinois or Illinoismeteorites on ebay. I might have that wrong through, sorry. I