Back in May I posted a request for 'giveaway' meteorites for a series of
presentations I was giving to school students. I realised last night that in the
rush to finish for the summer, writing about it for Meteorite magazine and the
birth of our second child I never publicly thanked those that c
Hi, All,
Speaking to this thread, and all the people who
find this sort of thing fun, there are many other
relativity brain teasers you can tease your brain
with... Like this one:
Consider the admittedly unrealistic situation
of a man carrying horizontally a 20-ft pole and
wanting to get it
Greg, if you walked to Alpha Centuri, it would take a long time. (And
if you wanted to go exactly there, it would be quite a warm welcome).
If you traveled at the speed of light it would be like Juan Salvador
Gaviota (instant from your point of view). So the question isn't that
you traveled at
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:20:31 -0500, you wrote:
>If you had to stop at Alpha C, you would need to reach the middle of the trip,
>then start decelerating, at-- oh, again a total guess, at a constant
>accelration
>of around 1.4335g both ways.
Scratch my second calculation here. The calculator alre
Oh one of these Gamow deals ... lets see, is it:
0.707106781times the speed of light (dividing by the square root of
two to cancel out the dilution of someone watching you, who thinks you
have traveled at 6.18... years?)?
The "..." because exactly is a pretty strong statement and I am
ke
Hi Rob,
As you may remember from my earlier writings to you, I'm no scientist. But,
if what you have written is true, and if I've understood you correctly, and if
someone traveling at the speed of light can travel anywhere in the universe
*instantaneously* "from their own reckoning o
Well, I don't know about *my* reckoning, but for my dogs it would be
either 0.624 or 29.89 years. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to multiply
or divide by seven;-)
My best guess is that it would be a fraction of instantaneous.
John The Bewildered
At 08:56 PM 8/25/2009, Rob Matson wrote:
Hi Eric
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/August_26_2009.html
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:56:29 -0700, you wrote:
>Which brings up a special relativity question for you all: at
>what velocity must you travel in order to reach Alpha Centauri
>(4.37 light-years away) in exactly 4.37 years -- by *your*
>reckoning of time?
Just off the top of my head, I'd say that y
Hi Eric and List,
> Light itself travels 186,000 miles per second. Do most people
> really understand how fast that truly is? Do people realize
> how long it would take to travel ANYWHERE in our universe?
At the speed of light, you can actually travel anywhere in the
universe *instantaneously* --
Australia's prospective massive & catastrophic meteorite tax
Australia.TO
This morning I was watching Dr Karl Kruszelnicki as he described the
probability of a massive meteorite hitting the earth in the next 50 to 100
years and ...
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
Interesting that s
Dear Geoff, Mike and Eric,
Thank you all for your constructive and deserved criticism.
I owe an apology to Sonny and Mike (and the List) for not realizing that this
was NOT new news and that it had already been reported on my weblog on April
9th. It may be inadequate at this point to say, bu
Dirk:
I concur with Eric and Mike Gilmer.
This is not news and no "new information" has come to light. The piece
you linked to was published on April 8 and today is August 25. How is
that a "new article"?
Just yesterday, I wrote a complimentary profile of my good friend
Sonny Clary, and
Hi Dirk and List,
Respectfully, this article is dated April 2009. I recall reading a
similar article months ago that contained the same "new information"
about the foot-bridge allegation, return to the land on consecutive
days, etc. This is not new information.
Best regards,
MikeG
On 8/25/09
Eric and List,
It was being re-posted because new information came to light about the
circumstances of Sonny Clary and Millers arrest.
It was posted on this list that the law, Court and Judge in the State of
Georgia were somehow unfair.
And previously it was hinted that the "old lady" was
And why is this being RE-posted? Rehtorical question of course...
Old news such as this, needn't be rehashed. I'm sure everyone on here is
very aware of it and In my opinion it's disrespectful to those involved
in my opinion to repost it.
Regards,
Eric
drtanuki wrote:
Meteorite hunters ban
Meteorite hunters banished from Burke
By Elizabeth Billips lizbill...@yahoo.com
The two meteorite hunters caught trespassing in Burke County won't be coming
back.
They've been banished.
In state court last Wednesday morning, Las Vegas meteorite hunter Ralph "Sonny"
Clary Jr., 49, and ...
http
Hi Folks,
I notice that Google ads are becoming more widespread and intrusive.
Google and other advertising servers have gotten wise to Ad-Blocker
software, so now they are embedding text advertising links into sneaky
spots inside the body of a webpage - effectively eluding many
Ad-Blocker program
Hi listees and all my philosopher friends,
I'm really philosophied out right now. My brain hurts from thinking too
much.
I'd like to send out a BIG THANK YOU to all of you who've given their
feedback on both my alien questions, and the new Spacifieds.com website
which was created with you gu
>>He's been looking through surveillance videos to try to determine
who stole the meteorite, which had been found in Argentina. It is the
size of a cantaloupe and is black with a bit of a metallic shine, he
said.<<
Look for a young person leaning over, that walks with a hobble.
GeoZay
This seems odd: A 30 Lb Iron meteorite valued at $2,200; that's only 16 cents
per gram. In any case, I hope it gets found.
Greg S.
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-web-montville-meteor-0826aug26,0,1462776.story
MONTVILLE — -
A meteorite has bee
>>the picture of steve was from 2 days after the fall. He was out along
with a bunch of other people the first week, but everyone threw in the
towel after about 10 days.<<
Oh that was Steve...Hopefully no one got abducted and experimented on. :O)
>>as for the difficult terrain, its certainl
the picture of steve was from 2 days after the fall. He was out along
with a bunch of other people the first week, but everyone threw in the
towel after about 10 days.
as for the difficult terrain, its certainly not Antarctica or Iraq,
but have you ever tried looking for meteorites inside corn fie
Hi Dirk,
Just glad to see that you have posted this little cute story at your news
weblog :-)
Just a remark, the text in the last paragraph reflects my own personal
opinion, after having looking closer at the picture of the "meteorite".
Anyway, I will post any additional information to this
>>Interesting, it would be great if they were, but I got the impression
that none of the 'professional' meteorite hunters wanted to look for
this one as the terrain was too difficult / the chances of recovery
were too slim. All of the people you mention with the exception of
farmer have pretty
Interesting, it would be great if they were, but I got the impression
that none of the 'professional' meteorite hunters wanted to look for
this one as the terrain was too difficult / the chances of recovery
were too slim. All of the people you mention with the exception of
farmer have pretty much t
Hi everyone,
A Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr7wNQw12l8
Though I disagree with the narrators obvious bias of capable human
understanding, I think I can look past that and view the universe for
what it is, and what we are to the universe in scale, both in size and time.
We are in fact
Hello everyone...I got this gut feeling that several of our list members
are out in Pennsylvania looking for a Mason/Dixon meteorite or two. Little
tidbits embedded(and not embedded) in various emails seems to point that way
to me. I'm just guessing, but I think Steve Arnold of Meteorite Me
Hi all.I have a .164 gram part slice of NWA 482 lunar for trade.I am either
looking for a slice of nwa 1109,a nice size taza or a slice of
estherville.Please off list.
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!
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Hi Folks!
This is a one-time deal. I am cleaning out my meteorite bookshelves
and have put together this lot of books and magazines. Each item is
in excellent to near-mint condition with only minor shelf wear.
Items included in this lot :
1) All four (4) issues of Meteorite Magazine from 2008.
Interesting perspective. I always thought it looked rather like bacteria
growth in a petri dish.
Kinda sad really. Maybe you're right. Maybe we are parasites on the
earth. Using up Earth's natural resources, devouring the planet, and
chewing up the growth media that is the land. When we're fin
Dear List,
I have a few very nice GEM quality LDG on E-Bay right now, still at low
bids. Ending in about 1hr. Also 1cm scale cubes still available.
Have a look if interested.
Thank you and have a great day.
Thomas
www.sahara-gems.com
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-AND-M
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I've recently been downloading science books from a huge number available on a
web site (http://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/science_books) and have picked out some that
are either directly about the possibilities of extraterrestrial life (both pro
and con) or are about exoplanets in general. I've archived
Phil,
Here is the proof you are looking for:
http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/proof-aliens-exist.jpg
Mike Hankey
http://www.mikesastrophotos.com
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Phil Whitmer wrote:
> Mike: OK, now I believe in the tall gray men from outer space men
Hu---Do I hear the faint echoes of a seventeenth century discussion
where Descartes replies, "I think, therefore, I am.
--
From: "Rob Matson"
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:54 AM
To: "Meteorites USA" ; "Matson, Robert D."
Cc:
Subject: [m
Mike: OK, now I believe in the tall gray men from outer space men, now
prove to me the existence of little green men!
LOL,
Phil
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Hola All,
I've seen a few examples, and one is viewable online (it's for sale,
oddly enough) on Marcin's Gao page:
http://www.gao-guenie.com/gao_oriented.htm
If you scroll down a bit, it's on the right side - it's hard to miss
the "HOLE" note in the photograph - click for better pics.
It look
Phil,
> Little green men or tall gray men, I have to see one to believe in them.
Here is the evidence you seek:
http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/steve-arnold-with-alien.jpg
I hope that clears things up for you.
Mike Hankey
http://www.mikesastrophotos.com
On Tue, Aug
Hola Eric, Rob,
> Like I said it's endless... I guess I'm not smart enough to figure out if
> we're really real or not, but that's not "really" what I care about. I care
> about knowledge. That's what I seek in my never ending quest for
> understanding.
Pfft - it's just being able to stand back -
Dear Dirk, and List;
I'd like to share a revelation
that I've had during my time here.
It came to me when I tried to
classify your species. I've
realized that you are not actually
mammals.
Every mammal on this planet
instinctively develops a natural
equilibrium wi
Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try
to realize the truth.
There is no spoon.
Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Meteorites USA wrote:
> :)
>
> Like I said it's endless... I guess I'm not smar
Steve,
Your observation is not far from the truth. Large areas of native untouched
lands are daily destroyed to build houses and other needless constructions
worldwide. The human worldwide population is far beyond what the Earth safely
can support and Earth is faced with a very virulent form
> Steve and List,
> We have since 2002 or so been bombarded with false
> news reports about meteorites being seen to fall, hitting
> houses and people and etc.
>
Here is a link to the 2002 case:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2218755.stm
> If anyone would like to keep current with
Alien life discussion is interesting, but, this is what our cities look like
from space:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/picture-galleries/5973258/Cities-at-night-from-space-photographed-by-NASA-astronauts-on-the-International-Space-Station.html
Looks like mold.
Our planet is rotting!
Steve
Seems to me that the Mars rovers have pretty much proved that at one time
Mars probably supported life based on their findings and observations---and
that is right in our own back yard!
Kirk.
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From: "Phil Whitmer"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:24 A
Zelimir
You are putting temptation in front of me. I should resist, I must resist, but
I am a weak and feeble man! Belgian beer and Belgian chocolate are like two
small pieces of heaven.
In Scotland, the surname Davidson is perhaps the sixth most common. Peter is
also a fairly common first na
I just saw this this morning. What a bunch of rubbish. More to confuse the
un-informed, with Ebay prices to boot!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6063717/Six-year-old-boy-finds-meteorite-in-his-garden.html
Tell me, does that look like a meteorite?
Don't think so.
Steve Schoner
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Sent: August 25, 2009 1:58 AM
To: meteor
Sorry for mistake in the preceding post.
Please replace "David" by "Peter".
I confused with a "David Peterson" another friend
of mine, also Trappist enthousiast...
(Peter, I owe you somechocolate!)
Zelimir
At 15:40 25/08/2009, Zelimir Gabelica wrote:
Hi David, Mark, Dirk, list,
Gods c
Hi David, Mark, Dirk, list,
Gods can come to you.
In Belgium we have officially about 800 different
brands of beer (unofficially something like 2000,
some very local). Up to 14% strength available (but through special request).
By far more than fireballs and meteorite falls!
(olny 4 meteo
Drake says:
N = R x Fp X ne X fl X Fi X fc X L
my reckoning:
1 = 1 X 30% X 0.1 X 40% X 40% X 29% X 1000
Where
R = The number of stars in a similar class to ours born each year
Fp = Percentage of stars that for planets
Ne = Number of planets for each star that have the right conditions for
life
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:54:45 -0700, you wrote:
>For instance, I would imagine you saw The Matrix. Suppose everything
>you see, hear, smell, taste, feel and think is simply illusion.
>Your first response might be, "That's ridiculous! I can read the
>words you've typed, I can feel the keys of my key
>>That is just hogwash in my opinion---the Drake Equation proves that
life
>>MUST exist elsewhere.
Not quite - Actually most sensible values for the drake equation (and
subsequent improved variants) come up with surprisingly low values,
given the scale and size of the universe! In fact it's qui
Hi Zelimir,
I believe around half of the dozen stones that made up Dhofar 700 displayed
vesicles. Some were more prominent than others. My individual shows just a
few small ones on the exterior and I've never been able to bring myself to
slice it up to see if there are many more! ;-)
http://
Hi Dirk,
Similar but not the same.
Most probably cut from the same individual (only
a few of Dho 700 pieces have vugs, perhaps only one of them ?).
Mine was obtained through a special offer from Blaine Reed.
My slice is 14.5 grams and seems to have "more
holes" and thus "less cheese" than you
Exactly,
and our imagination, whether there are aliens and if, how they are,
does in the end only reflect our occupation with ourselves.
And I suppose, that has a longer tradition, our images of the aliens?
>From antique times on those fictions, where the protagonists travel to Moon
or to space
Another here:
http://www.agab.be/meteorites/historique/Connoisseur.html
Click on "Dhofar 700 adio" and enjoy (and learn some French).
7 or 8 tunnels could be guessed (in any language).
Zelimir
At 21:08 24/08/2009, Gary Fujihara wrote:
Holy Toledo! Here's a specimen of Dho700:
http://www.f
Zitat von joac...@1tt.net:
dfgh
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Hi all,
I am looking for a small sample of Ochansk,
about 1 to 3 grams
best regards,
Christian
Ing. Christian Anger
Neustiftgasse 37
A-2405 Bad Deutsch Altenburg
AUSTRIA
email: christian.an...@aon.at
website: www.austromet.com
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Why does everyone always assume aliens are super intelligent? based on
the earth model >99.999% of all life in the
universe (if there is any other) is actually not intelligent.
There is a massive difference between, intelligent life,
semi-intelligent life, and basic 'life
The corollary--I ask because they obviously have confederates (if not actual
members themselves) on this list-- maybe they can bring us a Mercury sample?
Maybe Venus? Phobos? Demos? Saturn ring tektites?
I have some glass beads, tin mirrors, iron hatchets to swap. (It worked once
before thou
:)
Like I said it's endless... I guess I'm not smart enough to figure out
if we're really real or not, but that's not "really" what I care about.
I care about knowledge. That's what I seek in my never ending quest for
understanding.
Now regardless of the reality of our own existence, knowled
> ... there is no way for you to prove that I exist or you exist,
> or anything that you experience is real.
You might want to try a modern, meteoritical spin on the rhetorical
approach taken by Samuel Johnson in the 18th century, when he responded
to Bishop Berkeley's claim that matter doesn't ex
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